I'm for abortions and stem cell research. If a woman decides that she does not want to carry the parasite incubating inside her womb she should be able to get rid of it. (Yes I referred a baby to a parasite 'cause they function the same way.) Of course if the woman decides to wait too long then she'll have no choice but to carry it to term and then hand it over to some stranger. In case you can't tell, I don't like most kids.
Poll: Abortion- What's your position and why?
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Oooohhh man, lookin' to stir up the hornet's nest, are yah? I love these debates.
If I were put into that postion with a girl, I'd try to convince her to consider options other than abortion. It's what I believe is right. But it's not my place to say what's best for another person or another family.
Abortion should defintley be an option, but anybody considering it should be aware they have choices. Maybe each clinic has a wall with pictures of parents desperate to adopt? I dunno, I've never been involved in adoption, but I understand there's a lot of red tape.
Frankly, the pro-life movement disgusts me. Comparing pro-choice to genocide, inciting violence against abortion doctors, and offering no rational arguement other than "it's wrong. Bible says so." Jeeze, you want people to make a life-changing decision in your favour? Then try giving a woman hope. Give her options. Don't just shove a cross in her face, it accomplishes nothing.
If I were put into that postion with a girl, I'd try to convince her to consider options other than abortion. It's what I believe is right. But it's not my place to say what's best for another person or another family.
Abortion should defintley be an option, but anybody considering it should be aware they have choices. Maybe each clinic has a wall with pictures of parents desperate to adopt? I dunno, I've never been involved in adoption, but I understand there's a lot of red tape.
Frankly, the pro-life movement disgusts me. Comparing pro-choice to genocide, inciting violence against abortion doctors, and offering no rational arguement other than "it's wrong. Bible says so." Jeeze, you want people to make a life-changing decision in your favour? Then try giving a woman hope. Give her options. Don't just shove a cross in her face, it accomplishes nothing.
Abortion is for sick bastards that make money out of murder. Its disgusting how many people support it blindly because they see it as a right. Nobody has the right to tell someone should die because of his/her own mistake. Only time I support is if the baby has a retardation/birth defect.
Sadly the kid isn't really alive, and can't talk or think to tell us. I know a few parents though who still treat their kids as "the accident that took away my freedom/made me fat etc." and feel compelled to tell people when they are drunk.Mad Maniac with axe-firing chainsaw said:
This is an interesting point. People talk about how much they respect life, but if they found out their baby was going to be born retarded, most of them (including me) would want an abortion.LCP said:
Meh, don't worry. I'm in the same boat.NoMoreSanity said:
I'll add a little more. I just think everyone makes it all too complicated. "Oh noes! Its a live fetus!" In the ever-growing population that is this world we have here today, another person that really shouldn't be here isn't all that bad. Let the people decide. Its going to happen one way or another if the woman is serious enough about getting one.
Put away your flame shield- judging by the polls, you're safe.NoMoreSanity said:
I, however, am probably not, as I disagree with you.
Actually, there are five requirements for life and a fetus meets all five:NoMoreSanity said:
1) Grow & develop
2) Consume resources
3) Adult stage must be able to reproduce (from a genetic standpoint, a fetus is human)
4) Consist of cells
5) Must respond to stimuli
Pro Choice.
Overpopulation is going to become a big problem, and people are easier to kill when they are fetus'.
There are really two parts of the abortion debate;
1) What you define as life
2) Whether or not life as 'sacred'
If you are like me, you dont believe that there is a magical checkpoint where stem cells suddenly become a life; therefore to kill a fetus is the same as killing a senior citizen or a toddler, they are equally meaningless.
Overpopulation is going to become a big problem, and people are easier to kill when they are fetus'.
There are really two parts of the abortion debate;
1) What you define as life
2) Whether or not life as 'sacred'
If you are like me, you dont believe that there is a magical checkpoint where stem cells suddenly become a life; therefore to kill a fetus is the same as killing a senior citizen or a toddler, they are equally meaningless.
This depresses me greatly, because my pro-life parents found out that their little girl was going to have "problems"... and they had her anyway. She's retarded and has more problems then I care to count... and she's the most wonderful person to talk to, she is extremely helpful around the house, and is overall "the perfect child".RobotNinja said:
And people think she's unfit to live and have told my parents so.
I've had friends pro-choice and pro-life. The pro-life one saying he wasn't pro-life, but anti-baby murder.
But as for me I'm not sure. I think I'm for it if mother AND father agree.
But as for me I'm not sure. I think I'm for it if mother AND father agree.
I'm pro choice, but I don't think it's the womans choice. In cases of rape or incest, I believe the option should be there, but I'm more concerned with the child. Getting an abortion just because you don't want the child isn't right. Abortion isn't a free ride to have free, unprotected sex. If you're going to have sex, accept the responsability every time you do that this could be the one that knocks/gets you knocked up. If you're not willing to take that chance, then go take a cold shower or just do the dirty with yourself.
You could argue the same thing about plants, and I have yet to meet someone who denys that they are living things.NoMoreSanity said: