I don't believe that it is right, and I don't believe it should be legal. People often say that it's a woman's body, and therefore her right to kill the child in her womb. I disagree. That thing is a person, with it's own seperate DNA and rights.
I'd rather not kill neither of them.TehCookie said:Killing fetuses is better than killing babies in my eyes. The dead fetus can go towards stem cell research and the parent won't go to jail for killing the baby or child abuse.LCP said:Abortion is for sick bastards that make money out of murder. Its disgusting how many people support it blindly because they see it as a right. Nobody has the right to tell someone should die because of his/her own mistake.
Um... bacteria. Viruses. Several parasites and insects. Even plants, if you want to get really technical. Those are all living things. They aren't intelligent (unless you count instinct as intelligence) they cannot feel emotions and they cannot creat emotional connections.NoMoreSanity said:Ah, sorry than.lacktheknack said:Put away your flame shield- judging by the polls, you're safe.NoMoreSanity said:This will not turn out well.
I believe Abortion should be open for all, as I think a Fetus isn't a living thing.
*Prepares to be flamed*
I, however, am probably not, as I disagree with you.
Where do these requirements come from? It's not alive, it can't feel emotions and has no emotional connections, and it isn't intelligent.Macgyvercas said:Actually, there are five requirements for life and a fetus meets all five:
1) Grow & develop
2) Consume resources
3) Adult stage must be able to reproduce (from a genetic standpoint, a fetus is human)
4) Consist of cells
5) Must respond to stimuli
Since when has life become sacred?..xxhazyshadowsxx said:Tough for me to say. It's more of a "Different Case, Different Stance" deal for me.
For instance: A woman is raped. Does she not have the right to abort what wasn't hers to begin with?
On the other hand: A promiscuous woman sleeps around alot, and gets pregnant. For being careless, I don't feel a fetus has the right to die.
by that logic, we never should have gotten rid of slavery.robert632 said:fuck morality choices
O.T fuck making abortion illeagal, that's like making tobacco illeagal, it would destroy to much business at this point.
NoMoreSanity said:Where do these requirements come from? It's not alive, it can't feel emotions and has no emotional connections, and it isn't intelligent.
Now you're just assuming. I read in a magazine recently about a fetus that had been injured when the mother was injured. Some doctor... I can't remember his name (I wish I had the magazine...) removed the fetus, fixed it's spine, stitched it up, then put it back in the womb. The fetus then reached back out and grabbed the doctor's finger, held it for a moment, then let go.NoMoreSanity said:Where do these requirements come from? It's not alive, it can't feel emotions and has no emotional connections, and it isn't intelligent.Macgyvercas said:Actually, there are five requirements for life and a fetus meets all five:
1) Grow & develop
2) Consume resources
3) Adult stage must be able to reproduce (from a genetic standpoint, a fetus is human)
4) Consist of cells
5) Must respond to stimuli
Well... Honestly I dont see much difference between an appendix or an unborn fetus.LCP said:Apparently neither do you.Macgyvercas said:Where do these requirements come from? It's not alive, it can't feel emotions and has no emotional connections, and it isn't intelligent.
where do you deduce that a an unborn baby cant do any of those things, because he can't talk?
Anyone who wants to kill and unborn baby just because they see it as their property like a chair, is a arrogant idiot with his head up his ass.Guitarmasterx7 said:Pro Choice. If someone doesn't want an abortion they don't have to get one. Anyone who tells me what I can't do if it has nothing to do with them is so far up their own ass they can smell their esophagus.
If you can find me one foetus that has a complaint about being aborted, let me know.LCP said:Ridiculous, It's her mistake and child pays for it? fuck no! If she makes the child's life living hell, then toss her in jail.Puzzles said:Her choice.
Why force another unwanted baby into the world due to a silly accident. The life of an unwanted or resented child can be full of more pain than any abortion can cause.
How's the esophagus smell?LCP said:Anyone who wants to kill and unborn baby just because they see it as their property like a chair, is a arrogant idiot with his head up his ass.Guitarmasterx7 said:Pro Choice. If someone doesn't want an abortion they don't have to get one. Anyone who tells me what I can't do if it has nothing to do with them is so far up their own ass they can smell their esophagus.
Well... not that I'm disagreeing with you on the whole "it's alive" thing, but fetuses don't have a hearbeat until they, you know... grow a heart. So that's a moot point, for a timeDarkside360 said:Don't know how you can say its not alive when it has a heartbeat.NoMoreSanity said:This will not turn out well.
I believe Abortion should be open for all, as I think a Fetus isn't a living thing.
*Prepares to be flamed*
You assume that because he/she can't speak. Let's tape your mouth shut and nail you to a wall.Puzzles said:If you can find me one foetus that has a complaint about being aborted, let me know.LCP said:Ridiculous, It's her mistake and child pays for it? fuck no! If she makes the child's life living hell, then toss her in jail.Puzzles said:Her choice.
Why force another unwanted baby into the world due to a silly accident. The life of an unwanted or resented child can be full of more pain than any abortion can cause.
I don't understand you pro lifers, the kid won't care.