Poll: Abortion- What's your position and why?

[julia_sterling]

When the brain starts to become functional, No way its not murder. Before then, no way its not a womans right to choose. Every sane person is both pro choice and pro life, the question is where in the growth of a fetus does it go from a mothers body to a babies body inside a mother.

killing a fetus isn't any different then killing a bug

what kind of bugs have you been in contact with? is exterminating insects that live inside of a women a normal thing for you? are there some kind of womb beetles im unaware of?

I hate tell you but in essence the term " Bug" does not apply to insects, there are two different species," Bug" applies to worms and such that do not have six legs , if it has six legs its an insect, therefore not a bug.
to tell the truth, if you took a fetus out of a womb and stepped on it, the sound of crushing it would be the same as if you stepped on a bug , but that wasn't what i was getting at, bugs and fetuses are alive, both have no thoughts/emotions therefore killing either of them wouldn't make much of a difference

 

[LCP]

Alright, I know this debate is probably never going to end, but I'll say something anyways.

An abortion is a horrible thing, and I know it messes people up for the rest of their lives. A fetus is indeed a living thing, although legally it is not. Pro-lifers who complain that the babies have no choice in the matter are STUPID. Consider this: once the baby is born, it is going to go through 18 years of choices made for them. They do not get to choose what religion to follow, and most likely will have decisions made for them till they are older. I know kids who have absolutely no choice about some things, and I know parents that are horrible to their kids. So technically, nobody has a choice until they are old enough to vote/live by themselves.

I get your point but I disagree, from personal experience i have seen plenty op people whom were born in terrible families, sometimes no family at all and have become extremely successful at life. Everyone deserves a chance to work hard and succeed.

Obviously, it's up to a woman. And as a woman myself, who is any old man in Congress to tell me differently? Let the rich of Washington D.C come live on a lower-middle class salary and find themselves unexpectedly pregnant.

So, you're practically saying you should not be responsible for your actions in other words? How.. arrogant, YOUR actions YOUR Consequences! YOU Should pay for it Not the baby.

 

[A random person]

With overpopulation and a lack of homes for orphaned children as is, I don't see why you need to go through the process of childbirth. If you really think you are "pro-life" shouldn't you equally or more strongly value the lives of the already born?

I just have to say something in response to this: hasn't anyone noticed that a lot of the people who are against abortion because of the "sanctity of life" seem to stop caring once the baby is born? And say what you will about them being dangerous criminals who took lives, but I find it hilariously ironic when someone who's "pro-life" supports the death penalty.

I can't really agree with pro choice or pro life because there both wrong for equal reasons thats why nobody can deicide if its right or wrong.

Personally i feel people should just not put themselves in a possion where they have to choose between the two if they can.

This, If everyone was responsible they wouldn't have to have this choice anyway.

Agreed. I'm pro-choice, but it's best to not get in that situation in the first place. Prevention is always the best solution.

 

[kiyeshi]

touchy subject for a gaming website, but all the more fun i suppose
i think it should be illegal to abort if the fetus has brainwaves. if there are brainwaves, than there is some semblance of self awareness. if there is self awareness, there is life. if not, it's just a lump of tissue, still forming.

 

[Shock and Awe]

I don't like it, but I don;t think it should be illegal because its none of my buisness.

 

[sgtshock]

I think abortion should be allowed only in certain cases, such as rape or if the child will have a fatal birth defect anyway.

For all those people saying "lol a fetus doesn't have feelings, it doesnt matter if we kill it", imagine if your parents told you that they considered aborting you (don't ask why, this ishypothetical). Your entire life, everything you've ever seen and done and given, could have never happened based on a single decision. When a sperm and egg merge to form the DNA for a new human, it's basically the blueprints for a life. If you abort a fetus, even though it doesn't know you killed it, you are still unfairly denying a human the right to live.

 

[muffincakes]

Look, I'm not going to try and force my opinion on anyone, but I think that abortion might be ok. However, I'm pro-choice-forever. We shouldn't be restricted by these dumb "it has to be a fetus" regulations. I am all for partial-birth abortions. And to that extent, we're aborting because we don't want it and we didn't plan for it and we just don't need it right now, right? How many times have I ever thought that through the years...Which is why I advocate full birth abortions. And not only that, I think that up until they are productive members of society(graduated and gotten a job), they should still be able to be "aborted." That's why I've written my congressman in support of "minor" abortions. But why stop there? Most of these women getting abortions aren't useful members of society either, so I think we should push for "aborting" women who've had more than two abortions. After all, if your only contribution is to suck away MY tax dollars so that we can help you get rid of more unwanted babies, you're no better than that damn baby.

Also, if you've been raped then I think it really is alright to give it up for adoption. Because when a child gets adopted, it is SUCH a PAIN! Who would want that route when they can just abort? The quick and easy shove it under the rug solution?

(Really though, write your congressman in support of S.R. 11203 for 'minor' abortions. We can get it through if we work together.)

 

[LCP]

With overpopulation and a lack of homes for orphaned children as is, I don't see why you need to go through the process of childbirth. If you really think you are "pro-life" shouldn't you equally or more strongly value the lives of the already born?

I just have to say something in response to this: hasn't anyone noticed that a lot of the people who are against abortion because of the "sanctity of life" seem to stop caring once the baby is born? And say what you will about them being dangerous criminals who took lives, but I find it hilariously ironic when someone who's "pro-life" supports the death penalty.

I can't really agree with pro choice or pro life because there both wrong for equal reasons thats why nobody can deicide if its right or wrong.

Personally i feel people should just not put themselves in a possion where they have to choose between the two if they can.

This, If everyone was responsible they wouldn't have to have this choice anyway.

Agreed. I'm pro-choice, but it's best to not get in that situation in the first place. Prevention is always the best solution.

Im against it but hell we agree in something! Isn't that grand!

 

[julia_sterling]

killing a fetus isn't any different then killing a bug

That's screwed up. Imma go ahead and take it as sarcasm.

how is that screwed up?

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

Pro Choice. If someone doesn't want an abortion they don't have to get one. Anyone who tells me what I can't do if it has nothing to do with them is so far up their own ass they can smell their esophagus.

Anyone who wants to kill and unborn baby just because they see it as their property like a chair, is a arrogant idiot with his head up his ass.

How's the esophagus smell?

I like waffles *taking something out of context that doesn't help prove my point to provide a distraction from my lack of support for my opinion.*

Way to go sport!

Assuming you have more than 3 brain cells you and me both know that arguments over opinion go nowhere. but if you really want a response. "Anyone who wants to kill and unborn baby just because they see it as their property like a chair" I fucking made it, i should be able to un-make it.

 

[joystickjunki3]

Honestly, I don't like abortion and I feel fathers should have some say in the process, at least more than is considered normal currently.

But... it is the woman's body and if she feels that it's better, then who am I to say otherwise.

I do not think that abortion should be used as a back up plan for conventional birth control, or as a means of birth control at all. And I'm sure most reasonable people agree w/ that.

 

[Robert632]

Other. life doesn't begin at conception. i'm not sure at what stage of brain development life DOES begin at, but it's definitely before the third trimester. up until that point, i don't care what happens to the fetus, and 3-4 months should be enough time to decide what you want to do with it. i have no problem with banning elective late-term abortions. obviously the mother's health always comes first and foremost.

fuck morality choices

O.T fuck making abortion illeagal, that's like making tobacco illeagal, it would destroy to much business at this point.

by that logic, we never should have gotten rid of slavery.

1. by your logic, it would be better to let a fetus be born after 3-4 months, even if it would be born to a hellhole(poverty,etc.)

2. from a business point of view, making slavery illegal is equivillent to cutting off your dominent hand, you'll be severly crippeled for awhile. you'll learn to get better,but the first few years would be hell.

3.in case your wondering,i'm not pro-slavery, i'm just looking at it from a business point of view,because, as i said before, fuck morality choices. I know slavery was bad, and i'm glad it's gone, i just hate this dumbfuck morality choices that are bassicaly "do good,do bad,or do terrible things to people

 

[LCP]

Pro Choice. If someone doesn't want an abortion they don't have to get one. Anyone who tells me what I can't do if it has nothing to do with them is so far up their own ass they can smell their esophagus.

Anyone who wants to kill and unborn baby just because they see it as their property like a chair, is a arrogant idiot with his head up his ass.

How's the esophagus smell?

I like waffles *taking something out of context that doesn't help prove my point to provide a distraction from my lack of support for my opinion.*

Way to go sport!

I fucking made it, i should be able to un-make it.

Your Arrogance and Stupidity, Summarized in one sentence, Thank you for proving my point!

Showing how you refuse to take responsibility for your actions and resort to killing as the first option (your avatar fits you YAY!). That way of thinking is gonna get you nowhere, just telling you that.

 

[muffincakes]

Obviously, it's up to a woman. And as a woman myself, who is any old man in Congress to tell me differently? Let the rich of Washington D.C come live on a lower-middle class salary and find themselves unexpectedly pregnant.

A fetus is not a human.

And children are not the bright bundles of joy that they are made out to be. They are hard work and they are expensive and not everyone can afford them.

Unexpectedly pregnant? Like, "hey mom, I know I'm a virgin and have never had sex, but here's a baby?"
Or like, "Hey mom, I know you said sex leads to babies, but f*k you you can't tell me not to stick every penis in Chicago in my vagina. OH! And some how I got pregnant! Isn't that weird?" And yeah, obviously you might not sleep with thirty guys a night, but unless you're a lesbian or your sex-man has no balls, the only way to get unexpectedly pregnant is to be an idiot. Hmmm...

P.S. I know about condoms, but it says on the box they don't work 100% of the time. In fact, so does spermicide, girl condoms, etc...

 

[Puzzles]

You assume that because he/she can't speak. Let's tape your mouth shut and nail you to a wall.
Oh look you can't talk, lets kill you! you can't say anything against it, that obviously means you don't care!
Stupid reasoning is stupid

I was speaking facetiously. I expect at least some sort of assumption that a statement like that is not entirely serious, however my assumption of your assumption failed.

I could still shake my head side to side, if my mouth were taped. This may be an outdated gesture that the young ones don't understand, but it normally means no (unless you are female, then it may mean yes, no or maybe).

Unexpectedly pregnant? Like, "hey mom, I know I'm a virgin and have never had sex, but here's a baby?"

Yeah, the virgin mary (or the people who wrote the bible more likely) wasn't very logical about her excuses. "Honest, my dear husband, I did not sleep with that wandering wise man... It was some spooky ethereal figure in the night."

 

[LCP]

You assume that because he/she can't speak. Let's tape your mouth shut and nail you to a wall.
Oh look you can't talk, lets kill you! you can't say anything against it, that obviously means you don't care!
Stupid reasoning is stupid

I was speaking facetiously. I expect at least some sort of assumption that a statement like that is not entirely serious, however my assumption of your assumption failed.

I could still shake my head side to side, if my mouth were taped. This may be an outdated gesture that the young ones don't understand, but it normally means no (unless you are female, then it may mean yes, no or maybe).

Cmon you cant seriously think i was going to try that on you *puts away nails and tape*

wait a second! Ill put a wig on you and make the hypothetical problem of the nods go away!

 

[A random person]

With overpopulation and a lack of homes for orphaned children as is, I don't see why you need to go through the process of childbirth. If you really think you are "pro-life" shouldn't you equally or more strongly value the lives of the already born?

I just have to say something in response to this: hasn't anyone noticed that a lot of the people who are against abortion because of the "sanctity of life" seem to stop caring once the baby is born? And say what you will about them being dangerous criminals who took lives, but I find it hilariously ironic when someone who's "pro-life" supports the death penalty.

I can't really agree with pro choice or pro life because there both wrong for equal reasons thats why nobody can deicide if its right or wrong.

Personally i feel people should just not put themselves in a possion where they have to choose between the two if they can.

This, If everyone was responsible they wouldn't have to have this choice anyway.

Agreed. I'm pro-choice, but it's best to not get in that situation in the first place. Prevention is always the best solution.

Im against it but hell we agree in something! Isn't that grand!

Indubitably! Let us celebrate our accomplishment! *pops cork off of Champagne*

 

[ZeroMachine]

Obviously, it's up to a woman. And as a woman myself, who is any old man in Congress to tell me differently? Let the rich of Washington D.C come live on a lower-middle class salary and find themselves unexpectedly pregnant.

A fetus is not a human.

And children are not the bright bundles of joy that they are made out to be. They are hard work and they are expensive and not everyone can afford them.

Although I'm not about to say you're wrong/evil/a murderer etc, I will state that technically a fetus is a human. It has human DNA, therefore it is human.

But although I disagree with it, I no longer actively talk out against it and let people believe what they want. It's one of the worst types of political discussions to have, especially with a friend that disagrees with you. Too many people are either 100% for or 100% against, for reasons I don't need to go over.

Not only that, outlawing it would have more negative effects than positive...

 

[LCP]

killing a fetus isn't any different then killing a bug

That's screwed up. Imma go ahead and take it as sarcasm.

how is that screwed up?

calling a kid a bug is screwed up, time to sleep. I will debate some more Tomorrow!