Poll: Abortion- What's your position and why?

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Darkside360 said:
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This will not turn out well.

I believe Abortion should be open for all, as I think a Fetus isn't a living thing.

*Prepares to be flamed*
Don't know how you can say its not alive when it has a heartbeat.
Yep, it's definitely living. That doesn't mean I mind killing it, though.
 

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Guitarmasterx7 said:
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Guitarmasterx7 said:
Pro Choice. If someone doesn't want an abortion they don't have to get one. Anyone who tells me what I can't do if it has nothing to do with them is so far up their own ass they can smell their esophagus.
Anyone who wants to kill and unborn baby just because they see it as their property like a chair, is a arrogant idiot with his head up his ass.
How's the esophagus smell?
I like waffles *taking something out of context that doesn't help prove my point to provide a distraction from my lack of support for my opinion.*

Way to go sport!
 

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Its the woman's body, but its the child's life. If you give the right to choose, then you take away the child's right to live.
 

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When the brain starts to become functional, No way its not murder. Before then, no way its not a womans right to choose. Every sane person is both pro choice and pro life, the question is where in the growth of a fetus does it go from a mothers body to a babies body inside a mother.
 

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I'm pro-choice, but I understand if you're against it.

And this will not end well, though we've already started flaming.
 

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Island said:
ZeroMachine said:
Darkside360 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
This will not turn out well.

I believe Abortion should be open for all, as I think a Fetus isn't a living thing.

*Prepares to be flamed*
Don't know how you can say its not alive when it has a heartbeat.
Well... not that I'm disagreeing with you on the whole "it's alive" thing, but fetuses don't have a hearbeat until they, you know... grow a heart. So that's a moot point, for a time :p
the heartbeat is like one of the first things to start isn't it?
Oh, yeah, I was just being a bit picky :D

A random person said:
I'm pro-choice, but I understand if you're against it.

And this will not end well, though we've already started flaming.
We're actually pretty lucky. We've mostly stayed civil so far. I'm curious to see how long this will last.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
This will not turn out well.

I believe Abortion should be open for all, as I think a Fetus isn't a living thing.

*Prepares to be flamed*
I know I'm walking into the lion's den, but I have to post this.

A fetus IS a living thing. It exhibits the characteristics of living things and has separate DNA from the mother. Obviously, it is still completely dependent on the mother, though.
 

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With overpopulation and a lack of homes for orphaned children as is, I don't see why you need to go through the process of childbirth. If you really think you are "pro-life" shouldn't you equally or more strongly value the lives of the already born?

That and abortion should at least be legal if the mother's health is at risk or if the pregnancy was the result of a rape.

Pro-Choice, but abortion shouldn't be overused.
 

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Azraellod said:
i'm a supporter of that breeder's licence idea that was thought up a while back.

i think that you should need this licence in order to have a child, thanks to the massive overpopulation, and large amount of idiots in the world.

i think there are a few others here with this view, although i cant recall any of their names.
I'd support it in theory if the restrictions were relatively light (just preventing redneck or ghetto kids and having too many kids at once) to prevent it being horribly abused, but in practice, regardless of what you do such a system will be badly abused.

Oh, and I'm bothered by the overpopulation thing. Yes, some places like China, urban parts of Japan, and India are horribly crowded, but the world overall isn't. There is plenty of civilized land that has very low population densities (like a lot of America and most of Canada, for instance).
 

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I can't really agree with pro choice or pro life because there both wrong for equal reasons thats why nobody can deicide if its right or wrong.

Personally i feel people should just not put themselves in a possion where they have to choose between the two if they can.
 

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GODoftheRIGOVERSE said:
I can't really agree with pro choice or pro life because there both wrong for equal reasons thats why nobody can deicide if its right or wrong.

Personally i feel people should just not put themselves in a possion where they have to choose between the two if they can.
This, If everyone was responsible they wouldn't have to have this choice in the first place.
 

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Alright, I know this debate is probably never going to end, but I'll say something anyways.

An abortion is a horrible thing, and I know it messes people up for the rest of their lives. A fetus is indeed a living thing, although legally it is not. Pro-lifers who complain that the babies have no choice in the matter are STUPID. Consider this: once the baby is born, it is going to go through 18 years of choices made for them. They do not get to choose what religion to follow, and most likely will have decisions made for them till they are older. I know kids who have absolutely no choice about some things, and I know parents that are horrible to their kids. So technically, nobody has a choice until they are old enough to vote/live by themselves.

I'm pro choice because the way I see it, everything would be better if they just left it up to the people who its going to affect, to the people whose lives could be ruined, to the people who know they can't raise the baby. There are too many cases for part of the population to say "no" to the other part. And really, I can't believe they even have the right.
 

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A random person said:
Azraellod said:
i'm a supporter of that breeder's licence idea that was thought up a while back.

i think that you should need this licence in order to have a child, thanks to the massive overpopulation, and large amount of idiots in the world.

i think there are a few others here with this view, although i cant recall any of their names.
I'd support it in theory if the restrictions were relatively light (just preventing redneck or ghetto kids and having too many kids at once) to prevent it being horribly abused, but in practice, regardless of what you do such a system will be badly abused.
yes, human nature was one of the flaws with the idea.

but i consider it a superior alternative to the current world's overpopulation.
 

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Obviously, it's up to a woman. And as a woman myself, who is any old man in Congress to tell me differently? Let the rich of Washington D.C come live on a lower-middle class salary and find themselves unexpectedly pregnant.

A fetus is not a human.

And children are not the bright bundles of joy that they are made out to be. They are hard work and they are expensive and not everyone can afford them.
 

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I think that abortion is wrong, but I understand that it's a complex issue, and believe a woman has the right to disagree with me. therefore, I am pro-choice.