Poll: Am I a Bad Person?
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this feels oddly similar to my economics class- learning about the different economic philosophies, and the video we watched about the recent market crash. A lot of the economists trying to fix it were saying they need to bail out these failing companies to try to prevent all these other companies from going bankrupt as well, while the other people there were saying to let the company fail, that if they bail out this company it would cause a 'moral hazard' in which some companies would get it in their head that they don't need to worry about consequences because the government would just bail them out, and that bailing them out could even cause more trouble for the company's stock. Both these philosophies have their pros and cons, and either one could be good or bad in any given situation
I don't really think you're right or wrong here, in that these girls were acting really stupidly, but then again hindsight is always 20/20 and everyone makes mistakes. they are just different philosophies, and both have their place, you simply side with the bit more conservative philosophy in just let these people pay the consequences of their own mistakes
I don't really think you're right or wrong here, in that these girls were acting really stupidly, but then again hindsight is always 20/20 and everyone makes mistakes. they are just different philosophies, and both have their place, you simply side with the bit more conservative philosophy in just let these people pay the consequences of their own mistakes
When someone decides to drive drunk it's as if he decided to take a gun and randomly shoot in the streets - many families are ruined because of drunk/careless drivers.
If they asked me for a donation for a guy who wanted to start randomly shooting in the streets and somehow got hit with a ricochet in a vital organ I would reply as you. The same goes for the stupid teenagers.
If they asked me for a donation for a guy who wanted to start randomly shooting in the streets and somehow got hit with a ricochet in a vital organ I would reply as you. The same goes for the stupid teenagers.
Sure, which is why he isn't wrong, he was how ever needlessly rude to people trying to do a good thing for their friends that are in a bad way.Mcface said:
Hence horrible nightmare douche bag.
Nope. but directing it at people that deserve it rather than some one trying to do a good turn would be an idea worth considering.Mazty said:
Which is why he isn't wrong. But he wasn't addressing them so why bring it up?Gudrests said:
Couldn't agree more, sadly it's in my nature to argue to the bitter end.joebear15 said:
I think it's due to my opinion never seeming to matter to people IRL giving me some kind of complex, or perhaps I'm just stubbern.
I'm pretty sure that qualifys as trolling, and trolling is wrong, funny! but wrong.
I don't get the mod's decisions at times either, several people directly insult you, your sub-culture/religion/preffered media and then someone gets angry and all caps at them and then gets punished for it.
Don't get me wrong thye mods here are still better than manyt places but still, who mods the mods?
Very well, I'm going to clarify two points and then I'm done.Lazier Than Thou said:
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I didn't mean to imply that you were, I was talking about how supressing your feelings/beliefs/sexuality can affect your mental health, you seemed to misunderstand my point and I was trying explain what I meant by it, I apologize for not wording it better.
The sexuality thing?
I was merely using it as an example, I wasn't looking for a debate regarding that.
The mere fact that we disagree disproves your point, morality is very subjective, I believe that I'm in the right, you believe that you are.
Unfortunately (unlike in games) there's no morality gauge in real life telling us who is and who is not "right" in the end it is simply a difference in world views and beliefs.
As you suggested let's end this here, since further debate would simply devolve in to us shouting "I'm right!" "No I am!" at each other, I can't change your opinion and you can't change mine, lets leave it at that.
EDITED for spelling and to make the end make sense.
You're right. The girls were incredibly stupid to have done as they did,[footnote]Who gets drunk at eleven in the morning, then goes driving on icy roads?[/footnote] but you probably shouldn't have said so. This crash would have affected a lot of other people - family members, friends etc. who weren't at fault and must now deal with the consequences of the actions of those that they cared for. To have said to their faces that the girls were idiots and ask why should have to pay for it was incredibly insensitive, but I went for the third option because you were still right, and it was somewhat...[footnote]Crap. I want to say unreasonable, but it wasn't the fault of the people collecting the donations, and they're probably now in a tight spot, with the charity of others being their only means of keeping the girls alive. Also, they'd be feeling terrible. Again, that was insensitive.[/footnote] actually, I don't know how to finish that sentence.
TL;DR You were right, and it's not your responsibility to bail others out of the position that their own stupidity put them in. However, you should have been far, far more diplomatic about it, rather than upsetting the already upset friends and relatives. Actually, I changed my mind. That does make you a bad person. Not bailing these people out for their stupidity was somewhat reasonable, but making those affected feel terrible was a really bad thing to do.
TL;DR You were right, and it's not your responsibility to bail others out of the position that their own stupidity put them in. However, you should have been far, far more diplomatic about it, rather than upsetting the already upset friends and relatives. Actually, I changed my mind. That does make you a bad person. Not bailing these people out for their stupidity was somewhat reasonable, but making those affected feel terrible was a really bad thing to do.
Lotta people replying: "I'd support any victims but the DRIVERS deserve what they got".
As far as I know, only one person can drive a car at a time. As far as I know.. there were 3 girls involved in the accident... as far as I know, there are 2 victims and 1 driver. Were they ALL being stupid? Sure. Kids do stupid things. Not a single person here can post saying they've lived a stupid-free life. It's almost a requirement to have fun in this dangerous modern world we live in, to sometimes take risks when in social environments in order to enjoy yourself.
I can tell you this much for sure; none of those kids thought they'd ever be in an accident. I really think the OP is a bad person to be so cold.
I also think this is a fake story by a very bored person.
As far as I know, only one person can drive a car at a time. As far as I know.. there were 3 girls involved in the accident... as far as I know, there are 2 victims and 1 driver. Were they ALL being stupid? Sure. Kids do stupid things. Not a single person here can post saying they've lived a stupid-free life. It's almost a requirement to have fun in this dangerous modern world we live in, to sometimes take risks when in social environments in order to enjoy yourself.
I can tell you this much for sure; none of those kids thought they'd ever be in an accident. I really think the OP is a bad person to be so cold.
I also think this is a fake story by a very bored person.
Your assessment of their own guilt in their fate is correct, but the thing about brutal honesty is that it's... well, brutal.
While honesty can never be "bad", I would've still opted to decline with some white lie. Unless they were friends of mine, then of course I would've donated.
...Not that I generally concern myself with what opinions of mine others might take offence at. But given that they didn't end up hurting anyone but themselves, and the gravity of their "punishment", drawing attention to their stupidity in front of their friends seems somewhat uncalled for.
While honesty can never be "bad", I would've still opted to decline with some white lie. Unless they were friends of mine, then of course I would've donated.
...Not that I generally concern myself with what opinions of mine others might take offence at. But given that they didn't end up hurting anyone but themselves, and the gravity of their "punishment", drawing attention to their stupidity in front of their friends seems somewhat uncalled for.
You are a bad person, firstly for not caring about people, and secondly, because what you said was inappropriate at the the time.
Your opinion is correct, but the fact that you let that override any sense of morality is what seals it. You aren't far up the bad scale, just reasonably up the asshole scale
Your opinion is correct, but the fact that you let that override any sense of morality is what seals it. You aren't far up the bad scale, just reasonably up the asshole scale
Oh god not another real life choice that can be seen differently from either side.
ON one hand I would say your actions are slightly selfish. You could have donated 10 of whatever is the currency of your country. IT's not like it doesn't grow on trees! Oh wait...
ON the other hand you are in the right. Why are their friends and family unable to use insurance or their own money to pay for their medical bills? I mean it was their own choice to go and do something as stupid as that. I blame the drink. Tell them to sue the company that supplied the drinks they drank for the money to pay the bills.
Universely, no your not a jerk but your actions can be seen as jerky.
I myself may have not done what you did but I would have to be in the situation at the time to know for sure.
Also before anyone else says it and if someone else already has damn ninja.
[sub]Darwinism?[/sub]
ON one hand I would say your actions are slightly selfish. You could have donated 10 of whatever is the currency of your country. IT's not like it doesn't grow on trees! Oh wait...
ON the other hand you are in the right. Why are their friends and family unable to use insurance or their own money to pay for their medical bills? I mean it was their own choice to go and do something as stupid as that. I blame the drink. Tell them to sue the company that supplied the drinks they drank for the money to pay the bills.
Universely, no your not a jerk but your actions can be seen as jerky.
I myself may have not done what you did but I would have to be in the situation at the time to know for sure.
Also before anyone else says it and if someone else already has damn ninja.
[sub]Darwinism?[/sub]
There are far too many people on your side in this thread. Who cares if they were drunk one person fucking died! You should at least have the courtesy to search your pockets to give a swift recovery to two people in need.
You'd want people to give you money in their situation I'm sure.
You'd want people to give you money in their situation I'm sure.
It actually isnt a fake story surprising enough...michael87cn said:
http://medinagazette.northcoastnow.com/2011/02/01/one-car-crash-seriously-injures-3-brunswick-teeagers/
