Poll: American?s disillusion with WW2

[Schnippshly]

I believe none of us were alive then so maybe we shouldn't be arguing about it like we know what we're talking about

 

[trophykiller]

You know who kicked arse?

Obligatory Winter War post.

the best soldier who ever lived comes from Finland. his name is simo hayha.

 

[WOPR]

Now it?s a common fact that the American army came to aid the allied forces engaged across Europe.
However Americans believed this meant they single handily turned the tide of the war and ?won it?.

How much do you think Americans are bias about their engagement in World War 2?

Personally being English I feel their involvement was instrumental in ending the war a lot quicker but I think the true praise belongs to British and Canadians, but more so the French, those who faught the war from the bloody begining to the bloody end. Their country is a living memento to the fallen, all over and I mean all over France you can find graveyards and a memorials to all the men whom fought and died in that horrendous war.

I appologise for posting within the incorrect threat catagorey

Hey, I'm American and I hate what happened in that war!
so please don't make such a sweeping generalization, just because I'm surrounded by patriotic, bigot, idiots doesn't mean I need to get rolled up in the same ball with them!

As for my comment, I blame the government for sugar coating everything, I mean in our history books it kinda skips over all the parts where we were the bad guys, and as for sending the Japanese-Americans to concentration camps (please say I have the right war here...) they NEVER ONCE call them concentration camps despite that that's what they were.

Calls them multiple other things, mainly because they don't want to be compared to Hitler and HIS concentration camps (because he purposely killed off millions)

 

[thahat]

Now it?s a common fact that the American army came to aid the allied forces engaged across Europe.
However Americans believed this meant they single handily turned the tide of the war and ?won it?.

How much do you think Americans are bias about their engagement in World War 2?

Personally being English I feel their involvement was instrumental in ending the war a lot quicker but I think the true praise belongs to British and Canadians, but more so the French, those who faught the war from the bloody begining to the bloody end. Their country is a living memento to the fallen, all over and I mean all over France you can find graveyards and a memorials to all the men whom fought and died in that horrendous war.

I appologise for posting within the incorrect threat catagorey

the french? -laughs-
they were worse then us ( the dutch ) and thats saying something! lol
il hand you the brits and canadians though, they rocked

but yeah. the americans take too much credit.
though, to their credit, they did kinda pulled a giant economical miracle off afterwards, saving a lot of the EU from poverty and onto riches XD
though they should have just made better tanks then those bleeding shermans XD, i mean, you'd think thy get the hint with 7-9 /1 ratios of deaths/kills XD

 

[PeePantz]

Most intelligent people in the US are aware of how involved their country was during WWII. In short, we realize that while Europe was getting bombed to shit, The US stepped in adding fresh strong troops and HELPED end the war. We know that we did not win the war by ourselves, but rather assisted in ending it.

I know that while in school, we learned more about our involvement (because it was during US History), but we covered much more later (during World History). Any US citizen who paid attention during school knows that while the Soviets was a juggernaut, we were more of a shot in the arm.

I have a sneaky feeling that a lot of people, including OP, forms opinions of Americans based on Hollywood and television. Despite what is fictitiously portrayed of us, we're not chest thumping, flag waving, ignorantly patriotic assholes. Yes, there are a bunch of them here, but there is going to be jerkoffs no matter where in the world you are.

 

[llew]

Just bring up Vietnam. That usually shuts them up.

has been done many a time and has proven the most effective method of shutting those who believe this illusion up. although not all think like this, just alot

 

[thahat]

Does Europe not teach about the Pacific Campaign in their schools? Or is it just about the injustices of people like Tom Hanks and Stephen Spielburg investing their own money into stories about certain US forces in WW2, that just happened to be in Europe?

not a lot about the pacific no, then again, it wasent that important in the end, taking all into acount. well, maybe to the australians XD, but not to us anyway.
i mean, its halfway across the globe..

 

[llew]

Just bring up Vietnam. That usually shuts them up.

Implying that we were crushed military wise?

no just implying that america has had its fair share of evil deeds as well as good ones (the good ones usually because it suited them)

 

[WOPR]

Damn there sure is a fair amount of America bashing on this site. Ya know, Americans don't spend time bashing Australia or Russia or Canada, etc...

Umm... I'm sorry but, do you LIVE here?!

Sure there's nothing about Australia, but I can't go through a single day without hearing something about Russia sucking.

And there's always someone making fun of Canada, but that's more like once a week then two-three times a day

 

[Dana22]

They havent won War by themselves,

The Soviets took the East and the rest of the Allies, took the east. We believe we were essential because that's what we're mostly taught, U.S. history.

The Soviets TOOK east and rest of the Allies, LIBERATED the west.

 

[Tranka Verrane]

Poll: How sick are you of polls where they don't post a damn poll?

 

[Cryo84R]

Fun fact about the russian army in WW2 is that they used a great deal of american made supplies, from boots to food to vehicles. Americas largest contribution to the war is undoubtedly her unprecedented ability to turn out epic amounts of material quickly. Hell, we built destroyers from the keel up in 3 days.

Anyone who tries to diminish anyones role in the victory of WW2 is, simply, a bigot.

Lots of american hating bigots on this site.

 

[indiangrunt91]

Actually the credit should go the Russians who actually won the war and lost millions of lives doing it

 

[Warforger]

You should all be ashamed for valuing the contribution of a war that happened 70 years ago,

I think the true praise lies with the Soviets....you don't have to like the leadership, but they are perhaps the only reason the war fought by the Western Allies could be won.

EDIT: They also suffered the greatest casualties by a long way. To my mind, they've earned the credit.

Thats because they had shit generals for having such a high casualty count, Zhukov was almost as ruthless as Stalin because he didn't give a shit how many people died, and the Southern general was looked down upon because he didn't advance as far as Zhukov did, even though he was trying to save lives. It was Stalin's fault for executing his best commanders right before WWII and replacing them with these inexperienced ones, so I doubt they really should be given such credit.

This is comparable to Conrad the commander of the Austrian army in WWI, he had great plans which didn't think of the terrain and he wasted so many lives that he crippled the Austrian military and let the Germans take even more credit for saving their ass. Coincidentally he was a brilliant general to some aspiring Soviet commanders, funny how things turned out.

 

[WOPR]

Now it?s a common fact that the American army came to aid the allied forces engaged across Europe.
However Americans believed this meant they single handily turned the tide of the war and ?won it?.

How much do you think Americans are bias about their engagement in World War 2?

Personally being English I feel their involvement was instrumental in ending the war a lot quicker but I think the true praise belongs to British and Canadians, but more so the French, those who faught the war from the bloody begining to the bloody end. Their country is a living memento to the fallen, all over and I mean all over France you can find graveyards and a memorials to all the men whom fought and died in that horrendous war.

I appologise for posting within the incorrect threat catagorey

Hrr, Im British myself and believe me, I know exactly what you are talking about...but I seriously suggest you stick 'some Americans', because put it simply, not all Americans think that, just the simple minded few.

I'm American, and in response (I live in Northern California for the record)

It's the simple-minded MANY
not the simple minded few

but yes I agree that it shouldn't be so sweeping and generalizing

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Just bring up Vietnam. That usually shuts them up.

And then I can bring this up.

Anyway, everyone knows it was the Greeks who won the war for the allies. We watched out for planes with binoculars and warned you guys, son.

Difference being, Britian doesn't pretend that that is has the best war K/D ratio the way America does.