I am curious if you have tried Mushishi or Serei no Moribito? Both of those are more of the thoughtful, quiet type of story that doesn't really try to be anything so much as it just is. I agree that Hellsing isn't really mature (it just covers 'mature' topics that aren't really for kids), still haven't seen Monster. Or have you tried Castle in the Sky, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away?Spitfire175 said:twasdfzxcv said:Epic snip.snippysinclose said:Less-epic snip.
Not at all, Glenn Beck doesn't broadcast in my country.NameIsRobertPaulson said:You get your info about the world from Glenn Beck, don't you?scumofsociety said:Anime is a hateful, hateful thing, an abomination, a pox on the face of the world, a never ending plague of the foulest, most vile, scabrous filth ever to defile creation.
That said, one or two manga's are ok and I suppose a couple of anime's (films, never series')based on them are ok, but the rest are the darkest form of evil, summoned straight from the pits of Hades etc etc.
I have seen them and my goodness were they annoying. Reeeally not my thing.littlewisp said:Or have you tried Castle in the Sky, Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away?
It is in fact all of it, presentation, the content and the visual style that bug me. The ones you listed present characters that I can't identify with at all. I have seen Hayao Miyazaki's big films and I honestly cannot understand what is so great about them. There isn't anime for everyone, I figure I would have stumbled across it over the course of the last ten years.Sounds like it's not so much anime itself as the way anime presents itself most of the time (as with many tv/movie productions) that makes you not like it so much. The ones I listed I feel focus more on drawing you into immersive settings and characters rather than impressing you with sexuality or violence or what have you. . .which is why I dig them so much.![]()
I have heard quite a few people who didn't like miyazaki. I think maybe because he is more of a family/kids guy? I kinda view his works as damn close to disney. Who knows, maybe it's just the asian style itself that kicks you in the pants? Mushishi and Serei no Moribito are very much fantastical, but towards the trend of asian fantasy. Kinda like CJ Cherryh's 'The Paladin' only without the depth of plot. Both of the protagonists are late twenties/early thirties (or is it mid/late thirties? ehhh), and actually act their age (which is something of a minor miracle in most anime, sadly).Spitfire175 said:It is in fact all of it, presentation, the content and the visual style that bug me. The ones you listed present characters that I can't identify with at all. I have seen Hayao Miyazaki's big films and I honestly cannot understand what is so great about them. There isn't anime for everyone, I figure I would have stumbled across it over the course of the last ten years.
"Asian" is a bit too wide to be categorised as one group. But to give some sort of an answer, I have numerous volumes of Chinese storybooks and philosophy, which I rather like, both as a cultural exploration and for good reading. Indonesian folklore is somewhat unknown to me, I confess, but I did recently purchase a volume discussing syair and its connection to babads in the 19th century collections by the colonialists, a rare find I might add, paid a hefty 90 euros for it. I have some classical Korean stories from the Three Kingdoms era, adapted into English. Not too shabby, but very much the underdog to the Chinese.littlewisp said:Now I'm curious. Have you ever read and liked any of the asian classics? The Tale of Genji etc etc etc.
Explaining something doesn't always mean the person gets it, but this does make me get it now, oddly enough. Cool beans to you, sir.Spitfire175 said:"Asian" is a bit too wide to be categorised as one group. But to give some sort of an answer, I have numerous volumes of Chinese storybooks and philosophy, which I rather like, both as a cultural exploration and for good reading. Indonesian folklore is somewhat unknown to me, I confess, but I did recently purchase a volume discussing syair and its connection to babads in the 19th century collections by the colonialists, a rare find I might add, paid a hefty 90 euros for it. I have some classical Korean stories from the Three Kingdoms era, adapted into English. Not too shabby, but very much the underdog to the Chinese.
Most notably I have quite a pile of Indian classics translated into English and German (don't ask). They are by far my favourite of Asian literature, both in narration and presentation. As for the Japanese, I have both, the Arthur Waley and Edward Seidensticker translations of the Tale of Genji. I don't really adore it, to me Decamerone and Cantebury Tales do the "early novel" thing a whole a lot better, although it's interesting to read how a practically isolated culture like Japan produces a novel. I suppose I should give the latest translation a try, I red somewhere a new one was released in 2001 and it's more faithful to the original one. (the older ones were perhaps slightly misguided) I have read quite a lot of the Heian period texts, whenever I find a translation, but I also really like the Tokugawa period samurai tales. In all, I could say I'm rather familiar with the basics of "asian literature" as far as one can shove it all into one. So I suppose the answer is no, it's not "asian style" that drives me away from anime. And as I said before, Akira Kurosawa is one of my favourite movie directors. It's not somethnig being Asian or Japanese in anime that I dislike(okay, it is Japanese, but being Japanese isn't the reason). I think I've explained what it is a few times now.
And beans to you (and the rest of you) for not trying to murder me for not liking anime. Doesn't happen often, I tell you.littlewisp said:Explaining something doesn't always mean the person gets it, but this does make me get it now, oddly enough. Cool beans to you, sir.
if that is grown up I dont want any part of itTheCrayonKeeper said:I hate anime to the nth degree...
Too Japanese, but thn again Im 16 - I've grown up