Poll: Anyone here sick of seeing Russians as bad guys in every movie/videogame/novel?
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I'm fine with them as long as they're portrayed right. Like in Burn Notice they portrayed the Spetznaz as stupid, arrogant and cowards, holding a knife up to one saying "its been a while since I've heard a Russian scream" when the Spetznaz training is much worse then what he would've done, the operative wouldn't probably even scream just grunt like they all do to pain.
The thing with Russia, as others have said before, is they have the tech and manpower to threaten the U.S. when very few other countries do. In all-out battle with most other countries in the world, the U.S. armed forces would greatly outnumber the enemy's. Other than that, most other countries would have to rely on a war of attrition type strategy, which could still be horrible, but it doesn't quite have the same punch as a full-on war that would kill millions or even destroy the entire world. So, you can either have a full-on war (or the threat of one) with Russia or a similarly large country, or you have to have some sort of sneaky guerrilla special forces kind of war which would be much less dramatic if it might spark a war with say...Barbados.
EDIT: Oh, and gaming gets enough flak in the U.S. as it is...imagine what those people would say if you were playing a game killing U.S. soldiers. We'd never hear the end of it. I'm all for morally challenging games, but it might be smarter to wait a while until games become somewhat more accepted as an art form and such before we start calling for moral ambiguity.
EDIT: Oh, and gaming gets enough flak in the U.S. as it is...imagine what those people would say if you were playing a game killing U.S. soldiers. We'd never hear the end of it. I'm all for morally challenging games, but it might be smarter to wait a while until games become somewhat more accepted as an art form and such before we start calling for moral ambiguity.
And why Russia is the bad guy every, single, game.Deathshroud said:
Either that or Arabs from NotIraqistan.
I don't think it is just Russians, more Eastern Europeans in general.Deathshroud said:
I think using them as bad guys is with good reason, most countries have seen a massive influx of Eastern Europeans, and with it an increase in crime (Drugs, sex slave industry, prostitution)
The Eastern European gangsters are activly and sucessfully competing with the native criminal organisations all across Europe and even beyond.
I think in general you are overreacting, Yes the cold war is over, but then again every single thing has been done to death. Middle East, Vietnam, S America etc etc.
The problem is the tunnel vision game devs seem to have, unless a nation has been involved in a conflict with the USA then it does not seem to exist as an antagonist.
I think there's potential in making a movie/game where you're a Russian in a conflict similar to the 2008 Georgia-Russia crysis where this time,the Russians are portrayed as the "good guys" as they damn were during that conflict.
After you're done curbstomping some silly nation that tried to annex what is basically your country in a matter of hours,other nations would join in by means of alliances.
Why do movie makers and game developpers always find some far-fetched excuses for their made up wars?All it takes is one bad decision to nudge people into war.
After you're done curbstomping some silly nation that tried to annex what is basically your country in a matter of hours,other nations would join in by means of alliances.
Why do movie makers and game developpers always find some far-fetched excuses for their made up wars?All it takes is one bad decision to nudge people into war.
No because i don't really care about the nationality of the bad guys i just concentrate on killing them
Well, as a Russian I enjoy killing Americans in videogames, I suppose many Americans may feel the same way about us.
That said, I usually don't have a problem with games about cold war and such. Unless we have a lot of insulting lies there, like in MW2 (if you're American, imagine a game where George Bush, the president of USA, declared all black people slaves and declared himself the emperor - and you get the idea how MW2's story looks like to Russian people).
That said, I usually don't have a problem with games about cold war and such. Unless we have a lot of insulting lies there, like in MW2 (if you're American, imagine a game where George Bush, the president of USA, declared all black people slaves and declared himself the emperor - and you get the idea how MW2's story looks like to Russian people).
I really don't care if Russians are the bad guys, but I would like to see a game where
1) The main evil guy is French
2) You get to play as an alien invading Earth, then destroy it
3) You are evil and actually get to take over the world, be nice for a change of pace
1) The main evil guy is French
2) You get to play as an alien invading Earth, then destroy it
3) You are evil and actually get to take over the world, be nice for a change of pace
I think the russians and or germans show up as the villians a lot because they are the enemy that we've come to know and love. They are a classic good vs evil scenario where you want to cheer for the good guys and you have a good laugh at the villians. Vietnam - modern day villians are kind of scary because it is a lot less my big army full of soldiers vs your big army full of soldier and more of my army with soldiers full of yours filled with men women and children all strapping weapons because they are fighting for something they believe in. Which is kind of hard for your average person to deal with. I think almost anyone would be disturbed if you were playing a game and a 12 year old kid pops out and you have to gun him down.
Yea I guess I am. What seems to be a theme here is that "the Cold War's been over for almost two decades, lets move on and build for the future" and I couldn't agree more. No matter if a nation is communist (or communist w/some capitalist principles mixed in), capitalist, or any other political-economic system we're going to have to learn to live with each other regardless, so all the (and my country, the USA, is particularly to blame for this sentiment) "better dead than red" people out there need to shut the hell up and move on. I don't think people realize how horrible capitalism without measures of socialism can be.