Poll: Apple, friend of foe?

[xXGeckoXx]

Foe. I enjoy my PC and its cheapness that i can then customize. Oh, you're new apple laptop has 4 GBs and cost you 2500 dollars? My laptop cost me about a fifth of that, and after customizing it to have a 3TB memory, only spent 575.

You have 3TB RAM? Interesting.

I know you're just getting storage space and memory confused, but it would be awesome if someone actually had a computer that could make use of that kinda memory.

Scientists are working on making superconductors functional at reasonable temperatures (i.e.: a bit higher than their present limit, which is-273 degrees Celsius). Superconductors can power computers MUCH faster than they are now. Think PS3 times 2 million.

Even the warmest of superconductors will have their limit's by nature they have to be pretty close to absolute zero and even the "warm ones" need liquid helium cooling. The real advances will be with Buck-minister fullerene and graphene in processors.

He's waiting to finish his degree to make it "More official looking". that and to get the patent process finished (which he started about a week ago). cant really sell without a patent.

Okay I want to talk to the guy. Since you clearly have your own problems not fulfilling the boast I think it is time to put up or shut up. You have boasted your friends talents to that greater than any company in the world that rivals that of super computers all within the size of a LAPTOP.

Bring him to these forums so we can exchange skype info so we can talk and we can make this more official and I can actually read some proper documentation that demonstrates that he without revealing the technology or patent that he can truly fit 3 TB RAM into a laptop and 5 TB or 10 TB into a computer.

EDIT: I should also note that if this is true I should also let the Escapist Staff here know as well. This is after all a technological revolution of the century that equal to the invention of the cartridge for the video game industry that enabled console gaming to even exist.

EDIT 2: Ya know here is a better way to demonstrate if you are truly telling the truth with your laptop.

http://www.piriform.com/speccy

Use this and post a picture on imagedump.

No bios, no info just a simple stat shot of your laptop settings that clearly shows one's processor, RAM and hard drive space. Nothing more, nothing less. You have no excuse to not post a picture now.

EDIT 3: Just as I am a man of good sport. Here is a picture of my computer specs.

[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/tenmarpcstats.jpg/]

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Good Show. I was going to tell him the same thing. He was corrected and failed listen, this is the worst kind of argument in my opinion. If someone makes me smarter by pointing out where I am wrong then I make a point of learning from it and not being stubborn about my incorrect assumptions.

OT: Friend, They do stupid shit but my macbook does not fail. It just refuses to die. And when it did (total logic board death) apple paid a £350 logic board replacement for me even though I had no warranty (although the real kudos go to Nvidia who actually admitted that it was their faulty card and thus paid the repair).

 

[EternalFacepalm]

Foe. Mainly because it's just Ubuntu with sparkly lights and a silly community.

Friend, I use my Macbook for everything that isn't playing games. I use my PC for everything else.

...'The fuck?

 

[emeraldrafael]

Foe. I enjoy my PC and its cheapness that i can then customize. Oh, you're new apple laptop has 4 GBs and cost you 2500 dollars? My laptop cost me about a fifth of that, and after customizing it to have a 3TB memory, only spent 575.

You have 3TB RAM? Interesting.

I know you're just getting storage space and memory confused, but it would be awesome if someone actually had a computer that could make use of that kinda memory.

its RAM. I bought my laptop, tore it apart, built it back up, and put it in my own ram. the memory space is only 2TBs.

Though really my friend is more impressive. Albeit his is a Desktop, but he has 10TB Ram, and and extra 5 TB storage space that he'll never fill in his entire life.

Can standard, everyday-use laptop architecture even utilise that much RAM? It seems a bit overkill, no? What sort of tasks does your laptop do that could possibly need that much memory? XD My knowledge of computer architecture is somewhat limited, so forgive me if I'm sounding like an idiot >.<

Well, its not all on one Ram board (probably the wrong word, but thats what I've gotten used to calling the RAM structure). The way my Ram is set up, its six Ram Boards that are just sorta frankensteined together (we tore it apart last night so I knew how to answer this) and give me roughly 480-500 GBs. He then put 3 normally external drives that equal 2.5 Tbs of memory and connected it with the ram. THe only thing is, with all that Ram, I've essentially got no space for memory, so I only have a 100GBs internal (which is rather pathetic for the rest of the computer). So that 2.5 Tbs is also connected to the internal memory, and acts as both.

So my specs are:
500Gb RAM (made of six ram boards stuck together)
100Gb Internal
2.5Tb Memory that is sorta hidden away, and acts as both. So it all depends where I want to save it to the comp, and what I want on the ram.

As for is it overkill? I guess. I write alot of programs, so it helps with that. Then I sell them off to friends. I also have alot of documents for school (cause business is a ***** when it comes to how many documents they want to keep between Marco./Micro Econ, Accounting, Business Law, the stock market, taxation laws, and all that jazz). But then again, I have another two TB external drives just so I can take them inbetween (which I'm never going to use all of).

And then there's my personal documents, which include any computer painting, stories, poems, etc.

... Plus theres the slightly... unsavory things, I use my computer for.

SNip

See post above

ANd for the virus, its not that hard. Macs arent hard to crack really, especially after you see so many. Its just no one cares to, because they're a very small market.

I'll give an example. Most schools run Mac computers (I odnt know why, state funding must have a deal with apple or something) in their computer labs. Or, at least I know my high school did. for five days, we had a major ecurity break, and pretty much every Mac was left with a virus that required a pro to come in, clean each, and then bill the school.

They eventually found the person who did it (this time it wasnt me), but he did it cause, to quote him, "I hate school".

So its not hard. you just have to find the people that care enough to do it. Besides, I mostly do it for the neighbor that lives besides me just to make his day a little worse everytime he tells me his apple is superior to any PC on the face of the planet.

 

[Wintermoot]

the only Apple related product I use is the iPhone.
I hate Mac,s due to their mediocre specs VS High price.

 

[putowtin]

foe, big f@ck off foe!

Steve Jobs isn't the devil (the devil is a delightful chap) Steve Jobs is that crap you get in the corner of your eyes whilst you sleep.

 

[blankedboy]

Foe. I enjoy my PC and its cheapness that i can then customize. Oh, you're new apple laptop has 4 GBs and cost you 2500 dollars? My laptop cost me about a fifth of that, and after customizing it to have a 3TB memory, only spent 575.

You have 3TB RAM? Interesting.

I know you're just getting storage space and memory confused, but it would be awesome if someone actually had a computer that could make use of that kinda memory.

Well storage is memory, just long-term

Ontopic, foe. I've come to hate Apple's overpriced bullshit, and even the iPod has infuriated me over time. I use a Zune HD now and I'm loving it.

That being said, there's certainly alot going for them. When they decide to be nice they really do start being nice, but it sure isn't long before they go back to the old warranty loopholes.

 

[Tharwen]

-Snip-

Ah. You're talking about using the external drives for paging!

That's not really memory. It's also completely pointless. You would get as much use from those drives if you smashed them apart with a brick.

Also... you said you had 500GB of RAM. That's still not possible. What could be the case is that you have 500Gb of RAM (big, confusing difference), which is roughly 60GB. That would mean 10GB on each set of memory slots, which is possible, but I'm still not sure how all those slots could be connected together.

Anyway, I hope I managed to get it right...

 

[Trolldor]

I have both XP and Mac computers. I mainly use the Mac for non-gaming activities and it works just fine. Never had any real issues with it and 5 years and 2 OS upgrades later it still keeps up. Now my XP machine has had some problems lately and it's Microsoft's incompetence made it take half a day to fix something that should have taken about 20 minutes to deal with. Short version, .Net Framework 3.0 & 3.5 quit working, couldn't uninstall, couldn't reinstall, and no repair option available. I eventually found a 3rd party app that could clean out specific versions of .Net and was able to get it reinstall both of them. But now I'm having issues with my Razor mouse driver that will on rare occasions crash, which eventually leads to an XP BSOD and my system rebooting.

You're using XP for fuck's sake.
It's obsolete.
Try getting windows 7.

By the by, been running vista for three years.

Been using macs for a month at Uni for design.

PC is superior by far on the functional level. Hell, even the 'home' and 'end' keys don't work properly on any of the mac keyboards.

 

[J.McMillen]

I have both XP and Mac computers. I mainly use the Mac for non-gaming activities and it works just fine. Never had any real issues with it and 5 years and 2 OS upgrades later it still keeps up. Now my XP machine has had some problems lately and it's Microsoft's incompetence made it take half a day to fix something that should have taken about 20 minutes to deal with. Short version, .Net Framework 3.0 & 3.5 quit working, couldn't uninstall, couldn't reinstall, and no repair option available. I eventually found a 3rd party app that could clean out specific versions of .Net and was able to get it reinstall both of them. But now I'm having issues with my Razor mouse driver that will on rare occasions crash, which eventually leads to an XP BSOD and my system rebooting.

You're using XP for fuck's sake.
It's obsolete.
Try getting windows 7.

By the by, been running vista for three years.

Been using macs for a month at Uni for design.

PC is superior by far on the functional level. Hell, even the 'home' and 'end' keys don't work properly on any of the mac keyboards.

I tried upgrading to Vista years ago but Microsoft was too lazy to include a stable HDD controler driver for my motherboard. They also didn't include a stable generic driver either. This caused the system to both lock up and corrupt the install before I could get the motherboard manufacturers driver installed. I installed Vista at least half a dozen times before giving up.

My Net Framework problem would have been easy to deal with if Microsoft had either programed the installer to better deal with install errors, or had a repair option to fix a bad or corrupted install. Unfortunately Microsoft's programmers were to lazy to think that this might be needed so they couldn't be bothered to deal with it.

But on my Mac, I've NEVER had problems like this. Ever. I have yet to have an OS upgrade issue of any kind. And I don't have to install additional software just to run some new program. On a Mac installing software is easy, most of the time you just drag the .app file to the applications folder. To uninstall, you drag the file to the trash. Plus you have a much more powerful command line available since it BSD and not Dos. The only problem I have with my Macbook is that its graphic card can't handle 3d gaming.

The only thing I use a PC for anymore is gaming and to use the occasional utility program that only runs on Windows. And until a game is released that I can't live without and won't run on XP, then I'll consider upgrading to Windows 7. But as long as XP keeps working for me, there's no point to upgrading.

p.s. as for the 'home' and 'end' keys on the Mac, that's just how the OS is programed. Never could figure out why the work the way the do. You'd have to ask Apple about that.

 

[J.McMillen]

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[Hyper-space]

Foe. I enjoy my PC and its cheapness that i can then customize. Oh, you're new apple laptop has 4 GBs and cost you 2500 dollars? My laptop cost me about a fifth of that, and after customizing it to have a 3TB memory, only spent 575.

You have 3TB RAM? Interesting.

I know you're just getting storage space and memory confused, but it would be awesome if someone actually had a computer that could make use of that kinda memory.

WAHT!

Oh wait, i think he means memory as in storage, because 3 terabytes of memory? on a laptop? DOES NOT COMPUTE.

 

[Artina89]

I have a PC and an iPod (nano and shuffle) so I am not really bothered either way. I wouldn't get a Mac though, I am more than happy with my PC. A friend of mine has no end of trouble with his iPhone, so I would stick with my Blackberry

 

[MisterM2402]

Foe. I enjoy my PC and its cheapness that i can then customize. Oh, you're new apple laptop has 4 GBs and cost you 2500 dollars? My laptop cost me about a fifth of that, and after customizing it to have a 3TB memory, only spent 575.

You have 3TB RAM? Interesting.

I know you're just getting storage space and memory confused, but it would be awesome if someone actually had a computer that could make use of that kinda memory.

WAHT!

Oh wait, i think he means memory as in storage, because 3 terabytes of memory? on a laptop? DOES NOT COMPUTE.

No, it turns out it IS RAM (as hard as that is to believe) - just check out any of the 100 billion posts that have already quoted my post correcting me >.<
No wait, I'm talking shit - the people who quoted me were talking about supercomputers, but even then.... Read the rest of the thread laugh at how so many other people were taken in by his trolling.

Let's just assume for 1 minute that this guy is not mistaken, and his computer dose indeed have 3tb of RAM... this leaves me with just one question: Can it play Crysis?! Seriously though, I'm not surprised to see mistakes like this being made, almost everyday I see an advert (PC world are the worst offenders) saying something like "The new Dell centrino zx200, with 3 gig memory" it drives me nuts. To me that is grossly incorrect, and always makes me feel just a little bit angry inside, it's easy to see how uninformed people are getting confused.

There's nothing wrong with "3 gig memory" - I have about 3 "gig" (which I assume is gigabytes, since it's the most common memory measurement) of memory/RAM. It would be different if it said "500 gig memory" (since they obviously meant storage space). And anyway, specialist computer shops like PC World don't do things like that, since they actually have some sort of understanding of the products they sell. Would be different if it was something like a hand-written sign at Wal-Mart.

 

[CrystalShadow]

Heh. I've seen that documentary. And it makes an interesting point.

But really, I've read a lot about business practices, and for years I hated Microsoft out of all proportion to what they actually did. (even if it was pretty nasty at times).

But let me summarise the problem:

Microsoft is hated for it's evil business practices.

Apple - All the evil of Microsoft, and then some, but somehow wrapped in a shiny package that makes people oblivious to it.

So... Yeah.

PC vs Mac. Evil VS shiny Evil...

And by the way, that documentary is quite bizarre.

It really does show that electronics companies (Apple, sony... Nintendo, Microsoft, google and many others.) exploit the same areas of the brain that lead to religion and several other things that seem a little dubious when you think about it carefully...