Poll: Apple, friend of foe?

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Sparkytheyetti

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I want to see this 3TB you sissy.

Apple has now mastered what McDonald's has done for years. Psychological propaganda. I love my macbook pro. But i also like games. I usually just stick to 360. so for the time being the next laptop i get will be an alienware. And in the next 10 years when laptops become obsolete and replaced by awesome super ipad type coms then i will get one of those.
 

Small Waves

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I like Apple's products (or at leas the ones I use) and Operating Systems.

As a business, they have probably done some illegal things, but they have never come as close as being as demonic as Microsoft in the early years of the PC becoming mainstream. Back in the early 1990s, Bill Gates monopolized the PC and web browser market and then actively intimidated any and all competition, such as Netscape, along with forming trusts.
 

Yokai

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They developed the iPod, which was a genuinely useful invention that changed the way we listen to music. I'll grant them that.

However, what with putting form over function, carefully limiting third-party software, releasing new, virtually identical versions of their products every few months and, to ensure the previous point was profitable, designing their products to be incredibly difficult to repair or upgrade on your own. Got a problem? Buy a new one! Asshats.

They're happy to put their sales tallies ahead of their customers, and I simply can't support that. Also, no decent games. None.
 

DesertMummy

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One word: overcompensation. Apple products are more money for less product, so consumers have to do things like they did at that stupid store opening. Unbelievable. I that happened near my house, I would probably snap.
 

Hatchet90

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Macs are great. I've had mine for 3 years and it has never slowed, never crashed, never gotten sick... it is my friend.
 

Prof. Monkeypox

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I hold every corporation at an arm's length, and mistrust their intentions.
So foe.
I own several apple products- but I don't believe they have my best interests at heart.
 

Timi Pungracic

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FOE

they f***** up my ipod classic with an update, dunno why i still kept itunes. But then, even itunes started acting all shit, like when i closed it opened up again just to annoy me like hell. An Apple fanboy friend of mine, had a conspiracy theory, that microsoft found out that i was happy when i closed my itunes, and it force opened it just so i would think Apple sucks. Now thats fanboism.
 

ShadowKatt

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emeraldrafael said:
MisterM2402 said:
emeraldrafael said:
Foe. I enjoy my PC and its cheapness that i can then customize. Oh, you're new apple laptop has 4 GBs and cost you 2500 dollars? My laptop cost me about a fifth of that, and after customizing it to have a 3TB memory, only spent 575.
You have 3TB RAM? Interesting.

I know you're just getting storage space and memory confused, but it would be awesome if someone actually had a computer that could make use of that kinda memory.
its RAM. I bought my laptop, tore it apart, built it back up, and put it in my own ram. the memory space is only 2TBs.

Though really my friend is more impressive. Albeit his is a Desktop, but he has 10TB Ram, and and extra 5 TB storage space that he'll never fill in his entire life.
I demand prof of your lies! (Sorry, inside joke here)

Seriously though, dxdiag prntscrn?
 

Spencer Petersen

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MisterM2402 said:
emeraldrafael said:
Foe. I enjoy my PC and its cheapness that i can then customize. Oh, you're new apple laptop has 4 GBs and cost you 2500 dollars? My laptop cost me about a fifth of that, and after customizing it to have a 3TB memory, only spent 575.
You have 3TB RAM? Interesting.

I know you're just getting storage space and memory confused, but it would be awesome if someone actually had a computer that could make use of that kinda memory.
IBM's Watson has 16 TB of RAM
 

bob1052

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Spencer Petersen said:
MisterM2402 said:
emeraldrafael said:
Foe. I enjoy my PC and its cheapness that i can then customize. Oh, you're new apple laptop has 4 GBs and cost you 2500 dollars? My laptop cost me about a fifth of that, and after customizing it to have a 3TB memory, only spent 575.
You have 3TB RAM? Interesting.

I know you're just getting storage space and memory confused, but it would be awesome if someone actually had a computer that could make use of that kinda memory.
IBM's Watson has 16 TB of RAM
IBM's Watson isn't a laptop.
 

KissofKetchup

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Frenemy. I've had a Macbook for the past 3 years that I love to death and an iPhone. Their recent buisness activities have me worried though. I haven't been affected by them but they still have lost my trust.
 

thebolt

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Again I wonder...are we as a people not beyond "PC vs. Mac" and "Xbox vs. PS3" and "COD vs. Halo"? Do people HAVE to be on a computer team?
 

Broady Brio

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Seeing as I have a 3rd Gen iPod Nano and iTunes...

I can't say I'm a foe. But what they're doing isn't exactly under my approval.
 

MisterM2402

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emeraldrafael said:
MisterM2402 said:
emeraldrafael said:
Foe. I enjoy my PC and its cheapness that i can then customize. Oh, you're new apple laptop has 4 GBs and cost you 2500 dollars? My laptop cost me about a fifth of that, and after customizing it to have a 3TB memory, only spent 575.
You have 3TB RAM? Interesting.

I know you're just getting storage space and memory confused, but it would be awesome if someone actually had a computer that could make use of that kinda memory.
its RAM. I bought my laptop, tore it apart, built it back up, and put it in my own ram. the memory space is only 2TBs.

Though really my friend is more impressive. Albeit his is a Desktop, but he has 10TB Ram, and and extra 5 TB storage space that he'll never fill in his entire life.
Can standard, everyday-use laptop architecture even utilise that much RAM? It seems a bit overkill, no? What sort of tasks does your laptop do that could possibly need that much memory? XD My knowledge of computer architecture is somewhat limited, so forgive me if I'm sounding like an idiot >.<
 

Natasha_LB

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emeraldrafael said:
You can quote me, I'd be more likely to see it. Just hit the quote button on my post.

as to can it? ... probably? I dont care to play Crysis, but I'm sure it can run it.
Thanks for the tip on how to quote, somehow I've managed to miss that big button the whole time I've been here, how embarrassing for me, if you have any further patronizing advice for me, I'd love to here it!Anyway as you helped me out allow me to offer you a tip to... Continuing to claim that your laptop has 3tb of RAM makes you look quite childish, it's a simple mistake to have made and admitting the error won't cause anyone to think any less of you.

As for the crysis thing, that was actually more of a joke. I highly doubt that your 575 (You failed to specify currency - are we talking dollars, pounds, solid gold ingots?) laptop can play crysis on full, especially not as you seem to have no real knowledge of how computers work. I know people with damn good builds who poured alot of money in to them, who still can't get everything cranked all the way up, but hey, if you wanna believe that your magical (It's got to be magic right? Theres no other explanation for it) laptop can do it, go ahead. Additionally, did you know that bacon now grows on trees, and David Cameron just cured world debt?

Seriously though, you must realize how absurd this is, because people haven't even mentioned the second asinine claim that you made: You use all your free time to write viruses for macs do you? Hows that going? I bet they're not as good as mine, although I didn't make mine myself, my mate stole them from a top secret government facility you know, I shouldn't even be talking about them, but I'm just so bad at keeping secrets.

To get back on topic...

Generic Gamer said:
Charles_njc said:
...almost everyday I see an advert (PC world are the worst offenders) saying something like "The new Dell centrino zx200, with 3 gig memory" it drives me nuts. To me that is grossly incorrect, and always makes me feel just a little bit angry inside, it's easy to see how uninformed people are getting confused.
That's actually the correct terminology, in all of our uni workshops we refer to RAM as memory and anything else as 'storage'.
It may be the correct terminology, (I can't be sure - I'm only a hobbyist) but it just grates against me in a horrible way. Why say memory (which is an ambiguous term, open to misunderstanding) when it's actually shorter to say RAM and doing so will provide more clarity? I'm sure that this must be confusing potential customers out there, then again perhaps that's the idea: Ensure your target market has little to no knowledge of computers, then confuse them as much as possible, so you can sell you products based on the shininess of the casing alone... Hang on a minute, that sounds like apple's business plan!

Lilani said:
I don't like to pick sides. I prefer Apple I guess, but I also have Windows dual-booted on here.

What I've always loved about Apple is the customer service. I've heard so many great stories from friends and whatnot about easily getting things replaced or fixed, and now I finally have a story of my own, actually. There was a power surge due to an electrical storm last summer, and it fried the power system of my 24" iMac. It was still covered under warrantee, so they took it in. They tried replacing the power system, but that didn't fix the problem.

So they went ahead and replaced the whole thing. And, since they were no longer making the type of iMac I owned, I ended up with an uprade! My iMac is now the largest and best one they offer, 27" monitor, 3.1GHz, and worth $2000. My original iMac was $1200, plus about $240 for the Applecare extended warrantee. Worth every penny.
I heard a few stories like this now... and yet for every positive one, there seem to be at least 2 negative ones (Although people do tend to more more vocal about things that piss them off). I never had to deal with them myself, but I know my Dads had some terrible problems trying to repairs done by them. It certainly seems to be very hit and miss, and I do wonder if they sometimes do overly nice things like this to help build up a good image, and the appearance of being a friend caring company, to help soften the damage caused by some of they're other quite blatant "up yours" attitude to customer care, the news article in the OP is a good example of this, as was the "accidental" tracking in the Iphone.

I think that's what I hate about apple, they pretend to be so high and mighty, and so cool and hip, they give off the image of a caring company that puts the customer first, when to be honest they really don't give a flying f*** about the customer. Neither do microsoft to be honest, but at least they don't lie about it!

Much as I dislike them, and try to avoid them as much as possible, I don't mind to much if everyone else wants to, macs have enjoyed security by obscurity for a long time, but if they continue to gain market share, then soon us windows users will be in the minority, and perhaps we can enjoy a little bit of security by obscurity ourselves. I know we're a long way from that, but thinking about it helps me not to be a d***: rather than choose to try and enforce my views on other people if they make what I consider to be the "wrong" choice, I just see it as a step in the right direction.