As I said, you could compare Karen O (singer/composer) with Howie Mandel (TV host, germaphobe, "personality") and she would definitely come out on top. And yes, Michael Scott,ace_of_something said:Wouldn't it make more sense to compare two prog rock musicians?
Besides, he may be a musical genius but the man still enjoys a fart joke... though I haven't spoken to him in like... 11 or 12 years? I do recall how he and cedric refused to play until people put out their cigarettes.
Hmm maybe he IS complicated.
So maybe he's changed.
I guess there's that...though per my bias in this matter, I don't think I'd care if they did it this time. I believe it to be true, I'm convinced it's true, so seeing people even paying lip service to the idea is gratifying, as belief often follows words. Particularly since I see <url=http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/2008/02/men_stereotypes>the simplistic stereotype to be inherently harmful and patently insulting.Agayek said:I'd say the simplistic, but that's just me.NeutralDrow said:Oh, I hope not. The only "tough choice" in that case would whether or not to post in the thread anyway and complain/laugh over its exclusion. I mean, "political correctness" is already fairly meaningless anyway, but defining it as "having some impression of the world beyond common stereotypes" is going a little far.
This isn't even an "equality" thing. Who exactly would be the superior in this sentiment, the complex or simplistic?
As for the political correctness thing, I would say that he might have a point, insofar as most people, especially those in the demographic of the escapist, have been raised to/believe in "equality", and a lot of people's kneejerk response is "Everyone is always equal in everything because fuck off". I could see people clicking the "the genders are equally complex!" thing purely because of that. Some people may genuinely believe that, and honestly I'd agree, but I can see people choosing that option purely because of the "Everyone is always equal in everything" concept (which is blatantly untrue).
Basically, yeah. There's bimbos and meatheads in roughly equal measure, but otherwise free expression from guys is still culturally frowned upon.Ryan Kerr said:I think men and women are just as complicated, but many men are less forward with the feelings they have in fear of looking weak.
...have you seen me post in the VN group chat?Troublesome Lagomorph said:In my experience, girls are wtf soup.
Meaning: swirl of emotions that ends up creating a tangled mess of complexity.
So yeah, more complex, here.
You've certainly got a point. I just abhor the idea behind paying lip service to something. It's much better to be honest. If you say you believe something, actually believe in it. Don't say it to be cool or whatever.NeutralDrow said:I guess there's that...though per my bias in this matter, I don't think I'd care if they did it this time. I believe it to be true, I'm convinced it's true, so seeing people even paying lip service to the idea is gratifying, as belief often follows words. Particularly since I see <url=http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/2008/02/men_stereotypes>the simplistic stereotype to be inherently harmful and patently insulting.
I just do not understand people who think in stereotypes. I used to think some pretty negative things about gay people, but I was a teen living in a red state, surrounded by people who either never had anything to say on the matter or had very negative, immature things to say, and I didn't exactly meet a lot of overtly homosexual individuals. Not long at all after growing up and leaving the nest, I came to the conclusion that I had no further capacity to justify my prejudice against them. And this was without even really knowing any of them.commiedic said:Girls are not more complex. They just never mature mentally. They love to play with other people emotions and have no control over their own. When a woman is unhappy they don't understand why the world around them isn't unhappy with them and feel the same as they do. Women always ask their boyfriend or husband whats wrong not for being truly concerned but as gossip ammo. If you ever tell a woman about something that is concerning to you she has to let everyone know. Also you can never trust a woman. They will stab you in the back as soon as they feel wronged even if you didn't do anything wrong. If they "feel" wronged that is all the justification they need to do whatever it takes to fuck you over. Woman are also very shallow and too self indulged. Of course this is from decades of T.V. and parents telling a woman that all she needs is to look good and not be smart to get what they want.
Another thing that makes women even more immature is that they fight so hard to be equal to man and then when you actually treat them as equals they get offended and cry about how they are a woman and deserve special treatment. roflcopter.
This is all opinionated and I am not gay. I just treat woman for what they are. Never tell them anything and use them for reproduction or pleasure only.
That's a bit literal for my tastes, but it was pretty funny nonetheless. Seriously, I don't think any woman with a sense of humor would take offense to that.ObsessiveSketch said:While both can be either equally complex or basic, I find that men are more logical, while women are more emotional. Because emotions are wild, varied, and much more difficult to pin down than simple, rules-based, step-by-step logic, it leads to the perception that women are more "complex".
On that note, I'm seen many many MANY a man laugh at this comic til tears stream down his face, so I'm assuming I'm not being the only bigoted one by forming my conclusion above:
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I totally agree. There are guys out there that are much more complicated than a fileserve captcha, for real.FamoFunk said:I am a Girl and I think the sexes are equally complex.
Seriously I come across just as many Males who're complex and sometimes more than Females.
Sergnb: Generalisations are bullshit.commiedic said:pretty much summed up what I meant when I wrote above you. Woman are not complex their just childish. They don't say what they mean. They allude to it and expect you to figure it out and are pissed when you don't.sergnb said:Generalization of this caliber is bullshit and you all know it. There's no equal human being no matter what gender they are. Sure genetics might lead some people into behaving in a certain way but that doesn't mean they are "forced" to do so. A lot of circunstances could get in the way and change a person drastically.
I've met a lot of twitched, sarcasm spitting, over-the-shoulder-looking cold-blooded bitches. And I've met plenty of girls that just said what they thought. Some girls are smart, others not so much.
Seriously, stop thinking "Women" is an unified organizated terrorist group that has a plot against all males to squeeze the sperms out of their testicles in order to create a new order. It doesn't work like that.
Oh and on a sidenote, what exactly do you find "complex"? When a girl says no but in her mind she is saying yes? That's not being complex, that's being a child-person. That's inmature behaviour and if you think that makes someone complex you have some problems yourself.
I think here that you might be either young or naive (neither of which is bad, just limiting in scope.) To say that women don't understand what they're thinking and men do suggests that men DO truly understand what they've reported to you. If that were the case, there would be far fewer therapists than there are in the world.ReaperzXIII said:Speaking as an emotionally inept man I think women are way more complicated, a lot of them (or at least the ones I have met) let emotions blind rational reasoning way too much that I'm like "Does this make sense to any of you" and girls are way more complicated I have heard girls say that they don't even understand what they're thinking, never met a boy like that.
Like the one thing I will never get is girls like boys that are pricks, I mean I understand the fun of being/being around a sarcastic asshole, most of my friends are sarcastic assholes but a proper true dislikeable asshole is just not fun to be around.