Dags90 said:
Arqus_Zed said:
(although I must admit that the 'gay couples having children' bit is still something I'm divided about. I've got no problem with gay marriage - hell, it's your funeral

But the concept of gay parents is something else. If you like the other sex better, then so be it, it's who and what you are. But if you're not willing to stick it to the other sex, well, then that's just nature's way of saying: "Euhm, nope, sorry, kids are a present/burden I can't really give you.")
I hope you'd say the same thing to an infertile heterosexual couple, or a disabled person who want's to use "unnatural" things in order to function. I mean, nature clearly doesn't think paraplegics should move.
Okay... Not to sound offensive, but that argument makes no sense at all.
I'm talking about the way our universe works.
You, on the other hand, are comparing a couple that can't have children by an unfortunate twist in nature to a couple that just isn't meant to have children. Because existence, nature, whatever - didn't provide the combination of the set entities with the tools needed for reproduction. Comparing the bad luck of certain couples with the way another type of couple is meant to work just doesn't add up.
There are people who, sadly enough, must deal with the errors of a flawed universe. A straight couple is MEANT to bear children, but somewhere, something went wrong. Same goes for a disabled person.
When a gay couple can't get children, it's just COMMON SENSE. I mean, nobody's gonna go : "Oh my, you can't have children? What happened? Are you infertile?"
You get it now?