Poll: Asperger Syndrome [please vote, even if you don't know what it is]
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I'm gonna have to disagree here.sooperg said:
Yeah, we do need to treat you different, as we need to be more leniant / patient with you, because it affects how you express yourself.
There certainly are a number of supposed AS sufferers on this site, but then again this is the internet; where else would all the socially awkward people go.
Though I very much doubt that everyone who voted that they have it actually do because I'm convinced that some people would and do use AS as a method of getting attention / special treatment.
I'm trying to see where you're coming from...but all I'm getting is an educated bigot vibe, and don't take that as a slight against you personally if you can, it's just how I'm reading your comments.Seldon2639 said:
So, you're saying that, based on the fact that people with disabilities mental or physical or personality wise. That, not only do they have to work to a standard by which they can interact normally with society. But that they have to work above and beyond that because...what?
Let's try it this way:
Bill is deaf.
Bob is fully hearing.
Bill needs an interpreter.
Bill and Bob work in an office doing spreadsheets.
Both do excellent work and are paid the same wages.
Bill needs to work that much harder because he is a burden on his company through his need of an interpreter. Despite that the quality of his work is basically the same as Bob's.
Yeah...what a lovely world you live in.
You're right. People with disabilities do have to work a little harder, but not in the way you're imagining. Just so, as I've mentioned several times in this very thread, there are many many people with aspergers who deal with their problems daily, so well that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them and someone without aspergers. Now, taking that into account. Were you say to, tomorrow discover a co-worker had a disability that you'd been completely unaware of, are you honestly fucking saying that they somehow owe it to the world to work to a far higher standard than even you yourself would be expected to?
(Apologies for the profanity, I don't like using it but the issue really pisses me off.)
Well then, a short person may never be able to play basketball, just as I can't see myself at a party or anything similar, but he can still be good at other things, just as I, while I have my problems, am very clever and can come up with very different solutions to problems that others usually never think of, that is a compensation.Seldon2639 said:
A short guy would never ever need to win the NBA, I would never need to go to a big social "thing", I have other good traits, those make up for it.
Precisely. Your other good traits make up for the areas in which you're lacking. But that's not acceptance of your flaws, it's an understanding that you have other positive qualities which can make up for the negative ones, which was my point from the get go. We've been in violent disagreement.nikomas1 said:
asperger's syndrome causes people to go to extremes, for example a person naturally shy will be seriously afraid of new people, someone naturally quiet will become all but silent, etcLordMarcusX said:
ive got a friend whos name is Julian (but we all call him the mummy, cuz all he does is mumble thanks to his asperger's)
The concept of an educated bigot, while humorous, is a contradiction in terms. I may be intolerant (hell, I *am* intolerant), but it's not without thought. My lack of tolerance is well-reasoned and articulate, not bigoted. I have a reason for my disdain.GothmogII said:
In answer to your question, yes. Bill should work harder in order to make up to the company the resources they lose through the necessity of having an interpreter. If it costs twice as much for Bill to work (due to the interpreter), he should do twice the work. The company could hire two Bobs for the price of Bill, so the only reason the company should hire Bill is if he's *that* much better.
If you're Einstein-level brilliant, but have a disability (and I don't accept the "proof" that Einstein did), you should be accommodated since your contribution makes up for it. If you're not that brilliant or talented, you shouldn't get special treatment. Sink or swim.
My point was not that someone should be given more work just for having a disability. My point was that if someone requires accommodation for a disability (especially one like asperger's), they should have to make up for it in some other area. If I found out a coworker had it, and we were doing the same job for the same pay, I wouldn't care. If I found out he had it and needed to be given more time off, or work shorter hours, for the same pay, I'd be pissed.
For a little while, I thought I was a borderline case. Then I realised that I was being paranoid and over-analytical, and that my current "disorders" are enough to explain my state. I'm now of the persuasion that it's just the rest of the world that's fucked up beyond repair.
I know about it from Boston Legal. A character named Jerry suffered from it. I think they handled it very academically, making note of both humor and tragedy of the disease. Part of the human condition to laugh at terrible things, isn't it? If only due to fear.