Poll: Assuming that you are alive 2 years after the Zombie Apocolypse or Nuclear Apocolypse or Both?

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TacticalAssassin1

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hey dude i read it cover to cover too, we can team up and own those zombies!
besides, im really good at cod5 nazi zombies anyway, man that game is so fun
 

kemosabi4

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At least in a zombie apocalypse, your enemies would be brain dead. Belligerent and numerous (bonus points if you know where I quoted that), but slow and stupid.
 

Helgar11

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zombies i could survive that in my house for atleast a year with out having any problems my friends and family would be safe to and we have plenty of weapons and ammo to take them out if neccesary and we live pretty damn close to walmart so we could get stuff pretty easy when we run out
 

Scrythe

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While I appreciate the guide, I believe we already have enough guides.


I'd throw in the rest of my zombie games and my collection of movies, but that would be too much for one pic, and this was what I could grab within a five foot radius.
 

wwjdftw

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the_joker1112 said:
zombies.

i got the weapons (im a gun/ sword collecter)

i got the know-how (read the zombie survival guide from covor to covor)

i got the drive. (nothing better then cutting a zombies head off.)

zombies wouldnt stand a chance.

nukes would screw me over, but i live in canada, so theres vary little chance of someone stupid enough to nuke us.
stupid enough to nuke you no, but the "hot fallout" would hit Canada as well as America, and you'd be boned either way, and you never know, we might toss a nuke at you as a final "fuck you" to the world, i'm off to build my fallout shelter, you should get to work on yours too ... Canadian
 

Eclectic Dreck

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ElephantGuts said:
You can't really get so technical and serious regarding the issue of zombies, since the fact that they don't exist means we don't know enough about them. If zombies are actually already deceased corpses, doesn't that mean the organs aren't required to function? I'm don't know very much about zombies (atleast compared to what some people seem to know) but if whatever makes them function can overcome death then who knows what other laws of nature they can prove immune to?
That's the catch, unless some magical property comes along that allows zombies to break all known laws of biology and several well known physical conventions, zombies MUST follow the rules.

As to my assertion that zombies need to eat, this is not entirely true. They simply need some way of creating phospate bonds in adenosine diphosphate molecules (creating adenosine triphosphate). The reason for this is that cellular energy (literally, if you get down to the brass tacks of what makes a cell capable of doing work) is stored in this phosphate bond. Without a significant change in the biological structure of the cell (which I'll grant may theoritically be possible), then this is a simple fact that can not be unmade. Any time one wants to do work they require an expense of energy (physical law), and while the energy souce may be variable it must be present. Furthermore, the second law of thermodynamics states that any process where energy is converted to work is not fully reversible (the very law that says useful perpeutal motion is impossible), which means that even an especially effecient process would still require an external energy souce. You can get into the weeds as much as you like - without resorting to "magic" to explain it, a zombie needs some way to get energy in order to continue being a menace to humanity, and the only system built into a human body is that of our basic metabolism, requiring a constant supply of food.

All of the conventions I stated stand on the same basic premises. It doesn't matter how determined a zombie is, if you shatter it's bones and muscles it simply won't be able to move unless it's propelled (and supported by) magic. Such a body still requires some mechanism or moving energy and waste about, and the only structures that exist in the human body that accomplish this lie in the circulatory system. Though oxygen is a theoritical requirement, it need not be the case, as even within the human physiology there are tissues capable of functioning (at a vastly reduced efficiency) without the use of oxygen, specifically muscles. The troule is, the reaction in which one yields energy produces incredibly harmful byproducts if oxygen is not present (if you ever wondered why your muscles burn when running it's because you're producing lactic acid thanks to a shortage of oxygen). Unfortunately, only muscles are capable of this process, so again some pretty significant changes would be required in the biological structures.

At the end of it all, I'll grant that one can play with the rules to an extent, but at the end of the day a zombie must either conform to physical law or rely on a magical solution. And, let's face it - any process wherein the human body is so dramatically altered that the usual conventions need not apply would require such a tremendous amount of energy that we could reasonably expect only a tiny fraction of potential victims would actually manage to survive the process (another reason to fight obesity I suppose). Just as important, even these zombies would still function under basic laws of physics, so if we simply assumed that they worked on some process wherein they used environmental heat and/or sun for an energy souce, we could rest easy knowing that the minute winter hit their numbers would be easily culled since they wouldn't have the energy to put up much resistance.
 

kemosabi4

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Scrythe said:
While I appreciate the guide, I believe we already have enough guides.


I'd throw in the rest of my zombie games and my collection of movies, but that would be too much for one pic, and this was what I could grab within a five foot radius.
The Zombie Survival Guide is not a bad read.
 

Scrythe

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kemosabi4 said:
Scrythe said:
While I appreciate the guide, I believe we already have enough guides.


I'd throw in the rest of my zombie games and my collection of movies, but that would be too much for one pic, and this was what I could grab within a five foot radius.
The Zombie Survival Guide is not a bad read.
Very true. World War Z was amazingly well-written as well. I have the feeling that Max Brooks might branch this out into some kind of zombie franchise empire (like George Romero). I would love to see movie adaptations of Brooks' work.

I've been wanting to pick up Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. I've heard a lot of good things about it.
 

wwjdftw

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nukes ftw

I R PREPARED!

i just ordered some lead bricks and built a ventilation shaft setup and have dug a water pit with earth/bacterial filtration and a siphon to be inserted under ground when i dig the tunnel
what i plan to do is to go into the corner of my basement that faces the hill and dig into it about 100 feet straight back at about a 7 or 8 degree incline and the living quarters will be about 10feetX30feet in a T shape at the end of the tunnel i will have about 30 feet of dirt radiation insulating dirt above my head not to mention 1 inch thick radiation halting lead bricks on their way, now i just have to save up some money to stalk it
 

Manbro

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I would choose Zombies. This is because if there is a nuclear holocaust and the world is flooded in radiation, there might be zombies/ghouls anyway. As well as other mutations that could occur in that situation, such as Super Mutants, or Yao Guai. Not to mention the threat from the radiation itself.

But if there are just Zombies then there are hopes that one day you could kill off them all and restore civilisation to the world.
 

Hedberger

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Zombies. I've been longing for a reason to have another go at walking to Norway. I'll just go there and purge and loot villages on the way when i'm tired of fishing. If Norway has been overrun i'll just walk to Finland and if Finland has been overrun, not bloody likely with the amount of guns they've got, i'll just take a tour of Europe starting with Moscow.
 

Spineyguy

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I like the idea of becoming a total badass in a zombie apocalypse.

At least in a zombie apocalypse I wouldn't be locked away in an underground vault being force-fed the bible and 50s style american lifestyle.

Also, if there are only like 100 people left in the world, we would be responsible for *cough* 're-population'.
 

Spygon

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I would go for the zombie apocalypse because at least you can see and fight zombies as most Radiation is unseen by the naked eye.So i would rather be walking round with a heavy weapon in my hand looking for movement than walking around totally ruined cities with a Geiger counter actually on that note where the hell would i find a Geiger counter so deffinly i would perfer to try my luck with the zombies
 

TheBXRabbit

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I keep hearing all these people voting for nuclear because they think they won't get hit, So here's a fun fact: There are enough live nuclear weapons on Earth (live here meaning ready to be launched at any moment) to blow up the entire planet, FOUR TIMES. If you want to see the area of effect that would have, just watch the finale of War Games and then add in all the nukes made since then.

Good luck not getting hit, I'd rather chill in a VERY deep vault or mine shaft if things come to that.
 

Valiance

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I think I'd much prefer rebuilding after (and living in) a Nuclear Apocalypse.

Better chance to survive...Never was a fan of zombies...Don't need to be afraid as much to sleep...Probably more people are alive and alright than in a zombie one...etc.
 

Ultimathul

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Zombies cause its esier to barricade and fend them off, its more complicated to fend off radiation. not to talk about the radiated food and water.
 

Dr Ampersand

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Both because the radiation might kill the zombies. If not, then The Glowing Ones still give you quite alot of exp when you kill them anyway.
 

DarkLordofDevon

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Either. Doesn't matter. In the event of world catastrophy my plans for world domination will be inacted. I will survive by bending others to my will and forging a new empire in my name.