Poll: Battlefield 3 to be ported... :|

[Danny Ocean]

Also, it seems like the last 6 pages are all assumptions, "Well surely it will suck." The game doesn't even exist yet...

It's a prediction based on past evidence, not an assumption.

Although it does all depend on how they do it. If they make it for PC, then cut stuff to port, it'll likely be better. If they make it for PC, but equally for console, it will be worse. If they make it for console (Not happening, apparently), and then port it to PC, it will be worse still. By 'Worse' I mean 'Not what the pc consumer base really wants'.

 

[Popido]

As long as they make it for PC and then, after that, port it to consoles. Dont even think about consoles till the PC version is done!

And whats with all this? "Boo!! PC Elites are calling us scum again!!! Im the victim here! They always do this!!" Really mature guys, really mature...*claps*

PS. I own a Wii.

 

[SalamanderJoe]

No, but it shouldn't mean the PC version should be any less better. And this is from a console gamer.

Back on topic though, WOO! Battlefield 3! Out of curiosity, is Battlefield just Bad Company 2 or is it more complicated?

 

[Aphex Demon]

No, but it shouldn't mean the PC version should be any less better. And this is from a console gamer.

Back on topic though, WOO! Battlefield 3! Out of curiosity, is Battlefield just Bad Company 2 or is it more complicated?

Battlefield is a whole seperate franchise from Bad Company, Bad Company was the console spinoff, so to speak.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Well aslong as it is made for and designed for PC and for the PC in mind first then ported to consoles and doesn't become shitty and watered down cutting everything decent about PC gaming from it not mentioning any names I don't care.

But surely if the port over to the console is shitty, then its gonna' give Battlefield/DICE a bad name?... "Oh rememeber that crap game Battlefield on Xbox?"

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It easier to go and port from PC to console than console to PC. I have seen way more successful PC to console ports than vice versa. It is easier to take away extra than the PC can use like lean than to add them back in.

 

[Magnesium360]

Unfortunately so, PC gaming is by far the most superior, and fun. IMO.

In your narrow and unfounded opinion, yes.

What do you mean by this?

What I mean, which could be easily understood if given the slightest thought by a half-competent individual, is that PC gaming is only superior in some peoples point of view. You merely believe it's superior because it's what you prefer it, that does not actually make it better. From a game design and technical point of view, as well as a financial point of view, the PC is inferior to the consoles, as it is more expensive and has such a wide range in machine quality, requring games to be heavily optimized. PCs are not superior, and neither are consoles. It all comes down to preference. So just use what scraps of intelligence you have to think through your statements before posting. Have a nice day.

 

[Dys]

Just because a game is on consoles as well, it doesn't mean the PC version will suffer.

It doesn't, but history has shown us that it quite often does. It's all too common for once great PC series to get half assed ported from a console developed version. It's probably a bit unfair on DICE to start bitching at them before they've even had a chance to do it properly, but I can understand how this may knock the expectations of fans of the series.

Unfortunately so, PC gaming is by far the most superior, and fun. IMO.

In your narrow and unfounded opinion, yes.

What do you mean by this?

What I mean, which could be easily understood if given the slightest thought by a half-competent individual, is that PC gaming is only superior in some peoples point of view. You merely believe it's superior because it's what you prefer it, that does not actually make it better. From a game design and technical point of view, as well as a financial point of view, the PC is inferior to the consoles, as it is more expensive and has such a wide range in machine quality, requring games to be heavily optimized. PCs are not superior, and neither are consoles. It all comes down to preference. So just use what scraps of intelligence you have to think through your statements before posting. Have a nice day.

That's some pretty good trolling. There's a rather long list of objective, measurable reasons why platform A (in this case, PC gaming) is a superior option. You obviously have no fucking idea of anything if you think that from a design, technical or financial point of view PC gaming is inferior to anything (except possibly iphone/android markets, but I somehow doubt you're talking about the casual market). PC development is by far the easiest, spend 5 minutes on miniclip or newgrounds and marvel at how a few retards with basic paint skills are capable of making profitable, popular and for the most part fun games. Does the indie game scene barely even exists on the consoles, and if you think that most games are multi million dollar call of duty remakes, you're living in a bubble.

PCs are also objectively cheaper, you can easily pick up a system cabable of playing >95% of games for less than what and average person spends on fuel in a month (fuck, all it needs to be a competent gaming platform is flash and java, and even a rig capable of playing AAA+ titles at settings above those of the consoles can casually be put together for less than the cost of a PS3). Sure, if you want to drop a small fortune on alienware or apple branded products it's not going to be cost effective, but you don't exactly need dual nvidia gtx380s to play anything. My fathers $1000au desktop from 7 years ago still runs everything, the $500 xbox I got shortly afterward is long dead, as it's $650 successor (though in fairness the xbox 360 build quality was exceptionally poor).

So, assuming it isn't to big of an ask, how about you actually think outside whatever narrow and naive little box your mind is confined to and consider the big picture rather than trolling people for having a (perfectly reasonable) preference...

 

[Aphex Demon]

Unfortunately so, PC gaming is by far the most superior, and fun. IMO.

In your narrow and unfounded opinion, yes.

What do you mean by this?

What I mean, which could be easily understood if given the slightest thought by a half-competent individual, is that PC gaming is only superior in some peoples point of view. You merely believe it's superior because it's what you prefer it, that does not actually make it better. From a game design and technical point of view, as well as a financial point of view, the PC is inferior to the consoles, as it is more expensive and has such a wide range in machine quality, requring games to be heavily optimized. PCs are not superior, and neither are consoles. It all comes down to preference. So just use what scraps of intelligence you have to think through your statements before posting. Have a nice day.

Are you fucking trolling? You've just contradicted all you have said, Did you not see the big 'IMO' at the end? IN MY OPINION.
PC's are way cheaper dependent on what you wanna do with it, oh and wait there, Its a PC too!

FYI All you have just said, is in your opinion.

Get your facts straight before trolling, which I think is what you are doing.

 

[Woodsey]

If it's being ported TO consoles then that would infer the PC version is the primary platform, not to mention that not all multiplatform games are ports of each other.

 

[Chibz]

A couple of things.

1. PC gaming is dying due to a combination of the incompetence & greed of PC developers, the high price of gaming ready PCs and PC gamers stealing JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.

2.

Now stop your whining and MAKE ME A SANDWICH. Don't make me use my ring hand!

 

[ImprovizoR]

I'm all against exclusives. But that kind of thinking showed to be flawed. PC games suffer because of it. So I voted yes, Battlefield 3 should be a PC exclusive. Maybe then they'll make a decent PC FPS for once! Console gamers can have CoD all for themselves then.

 

[Jamieson 90]

I don't know about the PC platform dying but it seems the FPS genre is dying on the PC. I have no problem with Console players getting PC games but what is not acceptable is PC games being consolised and dumbed down.

The reason why for the PC players hate is because our experience of PC to console ports or more accuratly console to PC ports have been terrible. So when we hear it will be multi platform we know that actually means they will spend all their time on the consoles and port the code over to PC's making it shit. We spent money on our platform and are getting a shit service in return.

I mean how would you feel if the developers started developing all the Xbox 360 and PS3 games and marketted them to the Wii? All the controls would be terrible and the graphics would be Wii graphics which would be a waste of all your Xbox/PS3 resources, thats how PC players feel..

 

[Chibz]

I don't know about the PC platform dying but it seems the FPS genre is dying on the PC. I have no problem with Console players getting PC games but what is not acceptable is PC games being consolised and dumbed down.

The reason why for the PC players hate is because our experience of PC to console ports or more accuratly console to PC ports have been terrible. So when we hear it will be multi platform we know that actually means they will spend all their time on the consoles and port the code over to PC's making it shit. We spent money on our platform and are getting a shit service in return.

I mean how would you feel if the developers started developing all the Xbox 360 and PS3 games and marketted them to the Wii? All the controls would be terrible and the graphics would be Wii graphics which would be a waste of all your Xbox/PS3 resources, thats how PC players feel..

1. PC games, as a whole, have a market share of 500 million. Give or take few million. And getting further marginalized. Console games are worth over 10 BILLION. PC gaming is infinitely smaller, and the difference in size is only going to increase.

2. OF COURSE they will spend all their time on the console version. That's where ALL THE MONEY IS. Releasing a console game is infinitely more lucrative.

3. Mindless wii hate? It's not THAT bad of a system, regardless of what the 360 fandumb thinks.

4. Bad controls? Wii games aren't required, by law, to use the motion controller. Ever hear about the classic controller pro? Some of the best wii games use that instead.

5. Yes, becaus graphics are clearly the most important aspect of any game. And the wii isn't capable of visually-pleasing graphics.

6. PC gaming isn't any more "deep" than console gaming as a whole. That's just PC-gamer arrogance.

I almost forgot...

7. The PC game best-selling list is dominated by the sims and world of warcraft. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah...

TL;DR: Chibz is a living god. Everyone should worship her.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

You do realize that if it gets ported to console, DICE makes more money and can continue to make good games in the future? You know that, right?

Jesus christ, console gamers are people too.

 

[Jamieson 90]

I don't know about the PC platform dying but it seems the FPS genre is dying on the PC. I have no problem with Console players getting PC games but what is not acceptable is PC games being consolised and dumbed down.

The reason why for the PC players hate is because our experience of PC to console ports or more accuratly console to PC ports have been terrible. So when we hear it will be multi platform we know that actually means they will spend all their time on the consoles and port the code over to PC's making it shit. We spent money on our platform and are getting a shit service in return.

I mean how would you feel if the developers started developing all the Xbox 360 and PS3 games and marketted them to the Wii? All the controls would be terrible and the graphics would be Wii graphics which would be a waste of all your Xbox/PS3 resources, thats how PC players feel..

1. PC games, as a whole, have a market share of 500 million. Give or take few million. And getting further marginalized. Console games are worth over 10 BILLION. PC gaming is infinitely smaller, and the difference in size is only going to increase.

2. OF COURSE they will spend all their time on the console version. That's where ALL THE MONEY IS. Releasing a console game is infinitely more lucrative.

3. Mindless wii hate? It's not THAT bad of a system, regardless of what the 360 fandumb thinks.

4. Bad controls? Wii games aren't required, by law, to use the motion controller. Ever hear about the classic controller pro? Some of the best wii games use that instead.

5. Yes, becaus graphics are clearly the most important aspect of any game. And the wii isn't capable of visually-pleasing graphics.

6. PC gaming isn't any more "deep" than console gaming as a whole. That's just PC-gamer arrogance.

I almost forgot...

7. The PC game best-selling list is dominated by the sims and world of warcraft. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah...

TL;DR: Chibz is a living god. Everyone should worship her.

As for points 1 and 2 can you provide a reference or link to those claims? I do generally agree with you that the console market is more profitable in the FPS genre. That however does not mean I have to like it.

As for point points 3 and 4 this was not my actual feelings towards the Wii hey I have no problem with the Wii, I used the Wii as an example to demonstrate the differences in players preferences to their chosen platform. Hence why I said you would not feel happy if they started marketing Xbox/PS3 games to be played on the Wii the same as PC players feel about games being marketed to the consoles.

I see so graphics are not important? Lets all go play on mega drives then because graphics are clearly not important.... It might be your personal opinion that graphics are not important but to a great deal of people they are.

I didn't say PC games were better or superior, read what I said, I said they are different and that PC players don't like it when the things they like are removed and replaced by what console players like.

As for point 7 did you not read where I said the FPS genre is dying out on the PC's? I imagine the RTS MMO genres are doing just fine.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Unfortunately so, PC gaming is by far the most superior, and fun. IMO.

In your narrow and unfounded opinion, yes.

What do you mean by this?

What I mean, which could be easily understood if given the slightest thought by a half-competent individual, is that PC gaming is only superior in some peoples point of view. You merely believe it's superior because it's what you prefer it, that does not actually make it better. From a game design and technical point of view, as well as a financial point of view, the PC is inferior to the consoles, as it is more expensive and has such a wide range in machine quality, requring games to be heavily optimized. PCs are not superior, and neither are consoles. It all comes down to preference. So just use what scraps of intelligence you have to think through your statements before posting. Have a nice day.

Are you fucking trolling? You've just contradicted all you have said, Did you not see the big 'IMO' at the end? IN MY OPINION.
PC's are way cheaper dependent on what you wanna do with it, oh and wait there, Its a PC too!

FYI All you have just said, is in your opinion.

Get your facts straight before trolling, which I think is what you are doing.

Sticking IMO on the end of something does not automatically excuse you from taking responsibility for it. The only way to avoid people calling you out is to not say it.

IMO means absolutely nothing. We can tell it's an opinion, we're not stupid. And (s)he is not trolling, they're expressing their opinion.

Anyway, about the whole "Everything touched by filthy consoles becomes too dumbed down for us!" point. That isn't the fault of consoles, that's the fault of terrible developers misunderstanding the system.

 

[Chibz]

I don't know about the PC platform dying but it seems the FPS genre is dying on the PC. I have no problem with Console players getting PC games but what is not acceptable is PC games being consolised and dumbed down.

The reason why for the PC players hate is because our experience of PC to console ports or more accuratly console to PC ports have been terrible. So when we hear it will be multi platform we know that actually means they will spend all their time on the consoles and port the code over to PC's making it shit. We spent money on our platform and are getting a shit service in return.

I mean how would you feel if the developers started developing all the Xbox 360 and PS3 games and marketted them to the Wii? All the controls would be terrible and the graphics would be Wii graphics which would be a waste of all your Xbox/PS3 resources, thats how PC players feel..

1. PC games, as a whole, have a market share of 500 million. Give or take few million. And getting further marginalized. Console games are worth over 10 BILLION. PC gaming is infinitely smaller, and the difference in size is only going to increase.

2. OF COURSE they will spend all their time on the console version. That's where ALL THE MONEY IS. Releasing a console game is infinitely more lucrative.

3. Mindless wii hate? It's not THAT bad of a system, regardless of what the 360 fandumb thinks.

4. Bad controls? Wii games aren't required, by law, to use the motion controller. Ever hear about the classic controller pro? Some of the best wii games use that instead.

5. Yes, becaus graphics are clearly the most important aspect of any game. And the wii isn't capable of visually-pleasing graphics.

6. PC gaming isn't any more "deep" than console gaming as a whole. That's just PC-gamer arrogance.

I almost forgot...

7. The PC game best-selling list is dominated by the sims and world of warcraft. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah...

TL;DR: Chibz is a living god. Everyone should worship her.

As for points 1 and 2 can you provide a reference or link to those claims? I do generally agree with you that the console market is more profitable in the FPS genre. That however does not mean I have to like it.

As for point points 3 and 4 this was not my actual feelings towards the Wii hey I have no problem with the Wii, I used the Wii as an example to demonstrate the differences in players preferences to their chosen platform. Hence why I said you would not feel happy if they started marketing Xbox/PS3 games to be played on the Wii the same as PC players feel about games being marketed to the consoles.

I see so graphics are not important? Lets all go play on mega drives then because graphics are clearly not important.... It might be your personal opinion that graphics are not important but to a great deal of people they are.

I didn't say PC games were better or superior, read what I said, I said they are different and that PC players don't like it when the things they like are removed and replaced by what console players like.

As for point 7 did you not read where I said the FPS genre is dying out on the PC's? I imagine the RTS MMO genres are doing just fine.

PORT WASHINGTON, NY, January 14, 2010 - [snip]Retail sales in the PC game software industry also experienced declines, with revenues down 23 percent, generating $538 million in 2009. The total console, portable and PC game software industry generated $10.5 billion, an 11 percent decline vs. the $11.7 billion generated in 2008.

I was a little off. Console gaming is 10 billion. But what's half a billion bucks between friends?

Point 7 was about how marginalized PC gaming really is. World of Warcraft & the sims. Sad.