Poll: Battlefield 3 to be ported... :|

[Jamieson 90]

I don't know about the PC platform dying but it seems the FPS genre is dying on the PC. I have no problem with Console players getting PC games but what is not acceptable is PC games being consolised and dumbed down.

The reason why for the PC players hate is because our experience of PC to console ports or more accuratly console to PC ports have been terrible. So when we hear it will be multi platform we know that actually means they will spend all their time on the consoles and port the code over to PC's making it shit. We spent money on our platform and are getting a shit service in return.

I mean how would you feel if the developers started developing all the Xbox 360 and PS3 games and marketted them to the Wii? All the controls would be terrible and the graphics would be Wii graphics which would be a waste of all your Xbox/PS3 resources, thats how PC players feel..

1. PC games, as a whole, have a market share of 500 million. Give or take few million. And getting further marginalized. Console games are worth over 10 BILLION. PC gaming is infinitely smaller, and the difference in size is only going to increase.

2. OF COURSE they will spend all their time on the console version. That's where ALL THE MONEY IS. Releasing a console game is infinitely more lucrative.

3. Mindless wii hate? It's not THAT bad of a system, regardless of what the 360 fandumb thinks.

4. Bad controls? Wii games aren't required, by law, to use the motion controller. Ever hear about the classic controller pro? Some of the best wii games use that instead.

5. Yes, becaus graphics are clearly the most important aspect of any game. And the wii isn't capable of visually-pleasing graphics.

6. PC gaming isn't any more "deep" than console gaming as a whole. That's just PC-gamer arrogance.

I almost forgot...

7. The PC game best-selling list is dominated by the sims and world of warcraft. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah...

TL;DR: Chibz is a living god. Everyone should worship her.

As for points 1 and 2 can you provide a reference or link to those claims? I do generally agree with you that the console market is more profitable in the FPS genre. That however does not mean I have to like it.

As for point points 3 and 4 this was not my actual feelings towards the Wii hey I have no problem with the Wii, I used the Wii as an example to demonstrate the differences in players preferences to their chosen platform. Hence why I said you would not feel happy if they started marketing Xbox/PS3 games to be played on the Wii the same as PC players feel about games being marketed to the consoles.

I see so graphics are not important? Lets all go play on mega drives then because graphics are clearly not important.... It might be your personal opinion that graphics are not important but to a great deal of people they are.

I didn't say PC games were better or superior, read what I said, I said they are different and that PC players don't like it when the things they like are removed and replaced by what console players like.

As for point 7 did you not read where I said the FPS genre is dying out on the PC's? I imagine the RTS MMO genres are doing just fine.

PORT WASHINGTON, NY, January 14, 2010 - [snip]Retail sales in the PC game software industry also experienced declines, with revenues down 23 percent, generating $538 million in 2009. The total console, portable and PC game software industry generated $10.5 billion, an 11 percent decline vs. the $11.7 billion generated in 2008.

I was a little off. Console gaming is 10 billion. But what's half a billion bucks between friends?

Point 7 was about how marginalized PC gaming really is. World of Warcraft & the sims. Sad.

Although this might sound mad, I mean this is the Escapist isn't it? I agree with you, it is sad. Look two people on the Escapist agree there is hope for Humanity!

 

[GeorgW]

I'm definitely worried about the PC version not being as good as it should be, but I really like and respect Dice and am gonna give them the benefit of the doubt. Not porting BF3 would just be stupid, there's a lot of money to be made and if the game's good, why not share it?

 

[Smooth Operator]

Eh... what are you on about, why should a game be exclusive?
Porting them to other platforms doesn't make a game worse on any level, only problem is when they start to make games worse because they are short on time (a very popular trend these days).

Then the solution is simple, don't buy that sh*t, there are plenty of good games and you don't haveto eat up the crap that isn't done right.

 

[Liberaliter]

Just because a game is on consoles as well, it doesn't mean the PC version will suffer.

Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2142 have some mechanics that would not translate well to a console interface, like the commander system.

I would be hard pressed to believe that BF 3 would be as complex as BF 2 and 2142.

Battlefield 3 can still include the more complex elements on the PC version, the console versions will just have to be left out.

 

[Chibz]

HOW would having a console version automatically make the PC version "bad"? There's no logic in that.

Although this might sound mad, I mean this is the Escapist isn't it? I agree with you, it is sad. Look two people on the Escapist agree there is hope for Humanity!

People can count on good ol' Chibz. Not necessarily to be nice, polite or sensitive to their feelings. But, at the very least, to be honest.

 

[CalCD]

Battlefield 2 had sprawling maps, jets, and 64 player matches.
If BF3 has the smaller maps, no jets, and 32 player limit then its pretty clear that its been changed for the console due to the limitations of the consoles or due to console trends that are popular right now: intense,twitchy, fast paced gameplay ala MW2, which favours smaller maps and smaller player numbers.

 

[Magnesium360]

Unfortunately so, PC gaming is by far the most superior, and fun. IMO.

In your narrow and unfounded opinion, yes.

What do you mean by this?

What I mean, which could be easily understood if given the slightest thought by a half-competent individual, is that PC gaming is only superior in some peoples point of view. You merely believe it's superior because it's what you prefer it, that does not actually make it better. From a game design and technical point of view, as well as a financial point of view, the PC is inferior to the consoles, as it is more expensive and has such a wide range in machine quality, requring games to be heavily optimized. PCs are not superior, and neither are consoles. It all comes down to preference. So just use what scraps of intelligence you have to think through your statements before posting. Have a nice day.

Are you fucking trolling? You've just contradicted all you have said, Did you not see the big 'IMO' at the end? IN MY OPINION.
PC's are way cheaper dependent on what you wanna do with it, oh and wait there, Its a PC too!

FYI All you have just said, is in your opinion.

Get your facts straight before trolling, which I think is what you are doing.

Part of trolling is being off topic, which your initial comment was, so if i'm trolling so are you. Secondly, the only opinion I expressed was that you were wrong. I did not say console were better, or that PCs were better. I said it was a matter of opinion. A top of the rang gaming PC is often far more expensive than a top of the range console. Once again your lack of foresight and consideration causes you to blunder amazingly towards a hasty and inaccurate conclusion. Just stop before you try and continue this, it really is an unnecessary fight, especially here which is meant to be about the porting of battlefield 3.

 

[Awexsome]

Yeah one of the biggest sign of a PC elitist/fanboy is the claim that the reason PC games suffer is because they're ported to/from consoles or were even released on anything other than PC.

Along with acting like their platform is superior than the pitiful, pathetic consoles.

MW2 has gotten a lot of attention but so far it's been the big extreme to the norm so I wouldn't worry about it yet.

 

[Aphex Demon]

Unfortunately so, PC gaming is by far the most superior, and fun. IMO.

In your narrow and unfounded opinion, yes.

What do you mean by this?

What I mean, which could be easily understood if given the slightest thought by a half-competent individual, is that PC gaming is only superior in some peoples point of view. You merely believe it's superior because it's what you prefer it, that does not actually make it better. From a game design and technical point of view, as well as a financial point of view, the PC is inferior to the consoles, as it is more expensive and has such a wide range in machine quality, requring games to be heavily optimized. PCs are not superior, and neither are consoles. It all comes down to preference. So just use what scraps of intelligence you have to think through your statements before posting. Have a nice day.

Are you fucking trolling? You've just contradicted all you have said, Did you not see the big 'IMO' at the end? IN MY OPINION.
PC's are way cheaper dependent on what you wanna do with it, oh and wait there, Its a PC too!

FYI All you have just said, is in your opinion.

Get your facts straight before trolling, which I think is what you are doing.

Part of trolling is being off topic, which your initial comment was, so if i'm trolling so are you. Secondly, the only opinion I expressed was that you were wrong. I did not say console were better, or that PCs were better. I said it was a matter of opinion. A top of the rang gaming PC is often far more expensive than a top of the range console. Once again your lack of foresight and consideration causes you to blunder amazingly towards a hasty and inaccurate conclusion. Just stop before you try and continue this, it really is an unnecessary fight, especially here which is meant to be about the porting of battlefield 3.

Woah, ok.