If you think graphics are somehow a test of how great a console is you're wrong otherwise the Wii wouldn't be outselling other consoles.Indigo_Dingo said:No, you misunderstand me. I also have said game at home on my Ps3, and there the graphics look beautiful - shadow effects, natural movement of the body, what have you. The graphical issues seem to be on the PC.Eggo said:While I agree that Call of Duty 4 is no Crysis Warhead when it comes to looks, you might want to get your eyes checked if you think it's reminiscent of the 5th generation. The lighting, shadow, and motion blur effects and techniques used in COD4 were definitely not found in any of the games in the 5th generation.Indigo_Dingo said:Don't take this the wrong way, but my Local Internet Cafe has COD 4 on all PC's, and.... well, lets just say the Graphics remind me oddly the 5th generation.
I knew I shoiuld have gone with my other choices. Ok, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 2, Heavy Rain. Pick any of the above.Eggo said:Getting such a graphically limited game like Wipeout HD to run at 1080p is not something one should be bragging about for any platform.Indigo_Dingo said:If you want to look at its true potential, look at its exclusives. Like Wipeout HD.
Look at Audiosurf running at 1080p!
First, the PS3 has about just as many games as the 360.DYin01 said:Little Big Planet is the only reason that makes me want a PS3. Other than that, the PS3 is hardly superior to the Xbox 360. The PS3 has less games, suckier network (eventhough it IS for free. Wait, it is free, right?), is more expensive (both the games and the actual PS3) and.. Did I say less games yet? Plus, I really don't like the controller, but that's personal preference.
Lyin'? Hell, I nevah even knew that there wus a resolootion high-r 'n 1080p until, like, a few months ago![/country accent]Richard Groovy Pants said:Put that gun away Maverick, I ain't startin' nothin'.Jumplion said:Because people find a convinient source of HD displays to watch Blu-Ray movies with their buddies right out of the box more appealing than doing research for 1080p+ HD PC gaming that is pretty much a niche for most games and only available to one person at a time because they had enough money to upgrade to 1080p+ but their friend didn't and now their friend is going to start mooching off of your PC/Blu-ray player but you're sick of his mooching?Richard Groovy Pants said:Parsley said:Hmm, i put HD gaming one but this is not my belief. It is give and take with the best HD gaming, but may i point out that while some xbox 'exclusives' may end up on PC, this never occurs (as far as i know) from PS3 to PC. So if you want to have true exclusives the PS3 is the way to go. Bit annoyed gears 2 didnt end up on PC but hey ho we push on.That may somewhat explain it, but I would still like the OP to explain why he put that option in the poll...Codgo said:I find the "HD gaming at its best" option hilarious.
I dunno, I always thought that people like easy to use sort of stuff that's right ouf of the box, no matter if that COD game is actually 720p or if that Pearl Harbor movie in Blu-ray is actually upscaled to 1080p (whatever that means) (also, the explosions were pretty)
But HOLD ON THERE COWBOY! We're starting a flame-war, which was inevitable anyway.
I was just asking for an explanation why the OP put that option on the poll since it isn't true. So basically I'm just asking why he's lying, that's all.
I believe 720p/1080p is how many pixels are on the screen at once or something like that? The p is progressive, but I always forget what that means. Oh well.Eggo said:Do you understand what 720p and 1080p denote?Jumplion said:I thought 720p was average visuals? Looks decent enough to me, if it's true 1080p then woo-hoo for me I get to see slightly curvier faces and boobs, but it doesn't really matter to me that much until console games start progressively getting the 1080p treatment.
Consoles are PCs; they're just running extremely closed OS's and have software/hardware which you can't expand or modify without breaking the EULA. At least, not to the degree compared to a PC. It's like all the people denying that Macs are any different from PCs.Jumplion said:But when all console games are true 1080p, you PC gamers will all be like "HO HO HO! We've had 1080p for years you console-douchebag-tards!" and when console games go higher than 1080p you Pc gamers will be all like "HO HO HO HO! We've had 1080p+ for years you console-retards!"
But hang on a sec! Have you forgotten my Grade School analogy already? Do I have to say it again? I will say it again if I have to, I'll even PM it to you if I have to. There's nothing wrong with consoles being sub-1080 or whatever, and consoles have to be different enough from PCs because otherwise they are PCs and they're not supposed to.
I just wish we could stop trying to put lipstick on a pig and call it HD gaming.
Looked fine to me, never chopped up at all, very smooth all around.Eggo said:Let's try this again with COD4:
According to Sony staff, the Nvidia RSX GPU is about equivalent to the Nvidia GeForce 7800 graphics card.
Where does the highest version of that card (7800GTX) end up when playing COD4 at actual 1080p and with all the graphics settings turned up?
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Call-of-Duty-4-v1-6,746.html
Oh.
Hmm.
21.3 frames per second.
That must be one beautiful slide show.
That was exactly my point. Not everyone is a computer engineer, so the knowledge of 1080p+ resolutions arn't as well known as the PS3 being an HD console.Eggo said:Do you think everyone who uses a 30" monitor is a computer engineer or something?Jumplion said:Ps3 being an HD console is mostly common knowledge by now, PCs supporting resolutions higher than 1080p is not unless you're a computer engineer or something.
Look above, you can't lie if you don't even know.I don't see anything wrong with it; I just wish people were more honest.Jumplion said:I don't see anything wrong with consoles being "dumbed down" version of PCs, it's easier access for the actual consumer and if you refuse to buy a console because it "doesn't have true 1080p visuals!" then fine, just stop complaining about it and go on with your life.
(I'm probably going to word this question wrong) How big are those pixels? Or more importantly, how many of the are actually being put to use for any game really?Eggo said:...That's because the console versions of the games aren't rendering at 1080p and probably don't have all the settings at max.Jumplion said:Looked fine to me, never chopped up at all, very smooth all around.Eggo said:Let's try this again with COD4:
According to Sony staff, the Nvidia RSX GPU is about equivalent to the Nvidia GeForce 7800 graphics card.
Where does the highest version of that card (7800GTX) end up when playing COD4 at actual 1080p and with all the graphics settings turned up?
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Call-of-Duty-4-v1-6,746.html
Oh.
Hmm.
21.3 frames per second.
That must be one beautiful slide show.
Guess how much of a difference in pixels there is between 600p and 1080p.
2,073,176.
At 1024x600, I could get my girlfriend's 4 year old laptop to play COD4.
I've found that PS3 online seems a bit slower and I don't know, it just doesn't seem as good for unexplainable reasonsSupernovajake said:When 360 owners say that the PS3 has a worse online network they never say why. Can you give some reasons please?DYin01 said:Little Big Planet is the only reason that makes me want a PS3. Other than that, the PS3 is hardly superior to the Xbox 360. The PS3 has less games, suckier network (eventhough it IS for free. Wait, it is free, right?), is more expensive (both the games and the actual PS3) and.. Did I say less games yet? Plus, I really don't like the controller, but that's personal preference.
The computer engineers was referential to how smart people are with computers.Eggo said:Dell and Apple don't cater their 30" monitors to computer engineers or those who know a lot about computers.Jumplion said:That was exactly my point. Not everyone is a computer engineer, so the knowledge of 1080p+ resolutions arn't as well known as the PS3 being an HD console.
You're right; I should reword what I said. I wish more people were more honest/less ignorant.Jumplion said:Look above, you can't lie if you don't even know.
I knew I worded that wrong, the question's in my head but I don't know how to ask it. Just ignore that, nevermind.Eggo said:...All of them? Try playing Call of Duty 4 or whatever game you want at 640x480 and then try playing it at 1920x1080.
There's a massive shift in quality and playability.