Poll: Boycott Rage

[Vidi Kitty]

Since we seem to be done here:

I encourage everyone to make their own decision on buying the game, new or used. Either way will not make or break the game and you won't get or miss out on anything that will change your life.

Everyone should proceed to have a good day, and smile a bit. They are contagious after all.

 

[TheDooD]

And its people like me that keeps developers alive. Imagine if everyone bought second hand. Who would buy first-hand? No one. Exactly. Developers are supported by people who gives them direct support. Retailers are screwing both consumers and developers. I have no pity for retailers, and wish for the death of all retailers and all the second-hand market. That way, digital distribution rules and I can get games for cheaper anyways. Again, this is the kind of shit retailers can pull. Developers tried providing players with cheaper alternative but they are thwarted by retailers. So yeah, retailers screwing with consumers and developers. To bypass that, developers tried to be nice and removed some minor stuff from the game to encourage you to buy first-hand. Here you are bitching about contents that you may not even need to play the game. What bullshit.

You just proved you're a dumbass that has no idea what they're talking about. You realize the money from USED games go into them buying NEW games. How can Gamestop afford to pay its employees, keep the stores in good condition, keep the website up, etc. How can they do all this when all they're able to do is sell "new" products. What if the game flops what do they do with all the unsold copies, just throw them away? That just being wasteful. Why do push for one market to make money yet another that's equally as valuable to basically crash and burn.

You don't have to respect my choice, but I don't have to respect yours either. Deal? Yes, that is contract law. You can check the stuff out before you buy, but you are still taking risks with it, especially if you did not detect the flaw when you check. So whatever complaints you have against the disc, you take it to the game shop, who sold you the game. Its the shop's fault for not telling you "oh, you need to pay extra $10 to get some other stuff" when you buy. That is their problem. If they told you and you still bought? The problem is all on you. You can blame no one for it.

Or you can choose not to buy the game that locks content off. Its not like someone is pointing a gun at you and force you to buy it. You have a choice. Its either you buy or you don't. Simple?

The way you're thinking people are just gonna pirate instead of dealing with people like you and your bullshit. They still get to play the game, the whole fucking game.

 

[Vidi Kitty]

Since we seem to be done here:

I encourage everyone to make their own decision on buying the game, new or used. Either way will not make or break the game and you won't get or miss out on anything that will change your life.

Everyone should proceed to have a good day, and smile a bit. They are contagious after all.

This I guess. It comes down to whether you think this is done as a reward or punishment. Damn, a 15 page ***** fit. Buying it new here.

Heh, not buying it myself, not until the new copy price drops a bit.

Also sorry if I was a bit mean to you and other people. I have been awake for... almost a whole day now, and it gets to you if you are not used to it.

 

[genericusername64]

Its usually not the developers fault that content is cut, its the publishers decision. So I have to ask myself, will I punish the developer for a bad publisher? No, I wont. And even if I boycotted it, since when has a large company ever taken an internet petition seriously *cough*Nintendo of America*cough*

 

[krazykidd]

This 'buy it new to play things that would have been included otherwise!' crap needs to end. im sick of game companies thinking that they can do this to us, as consumers. we dont have to put up with this bull anymore. WE decide whether or not their game gets bought. WE decide to put money down for a title they release. they dont get to decide that for us. im tired of the companies thinking that they can get away with this, just because they assume we will always buy their games no matter what.

If we allow this to continue, what will happen to games like Skyrim? do you want to only be able to access 15 quests if you buy it new? or to a new extreme: you can only dual wield if you buy it new?

Ill buy it new when it drops to 20$ , and get all the benifits for buying it new , like the dlc codes and shit you get when you buy it new they are still in the box even if the price drops , theres always a way to beat the system . Like that mass effect 2 ceberus code , when i bought ME 2 for20$ the code was still in the box and it was good until january 2012.

 

[blizzaradragon]

There is no reason to punish people who buy the game used. People who buy your games used are people who become faithful buyers of your products. That's how I got to the point where I'll shell out over 70 dollars to pre-order Skyrim: buying Morrowind used. It's also how I became a loyal fan to Lionhead. A used copy of Fable I picked up at Gamestop.

When developers penalize legitimate used buyers, they ostracize a demographic. It all sort of reminds me of "my friend". There are devs that "my friend" would rather pirate from than buy from because of their business practices. However, when devs treat their consumers well, "my friend" is willing to pay for their used games, try them out, and shell out seventy dollars of his hard-earned dosh to buy their future games brand new if he likes it.

They are not punishing the "used" buyer. They are further rewarding people who buy new.

Everyone screams and kicks and shouts "REWARD US FOR GIVING YOU OUR MONEY!" -- but when something comes around that actually does that (by adding additional content that you would not even miss if it wasn't there), the same people cry "YOU ARE EVIL AND GREEDY, I WILL NO LONGER BUY FROM YOU! RARRRGH!"

They are not giving people extra content for buying it new. They are locking content that is present on the disc you buy for people who do not buy used.

If they were to make their DLC free or at a significant discount for people who bought new, that would be awesome. Me and "my friend" would both buy their games brand new so that we could get the extra content they put out for the game in the future at no cost or a reduced cost. That's the carrot.

However, when content on the game disc is locked if you don't buy the game brand new, the stick, both of us are put off of buying the game. I, of course, just don't play the game because that's the law. "My friend" occasionally will acquire the game in alternative methods.

You could look at it the way I do then: the level that they are giving to people who buy it new is DLC that you don't have to connect online to get. It's essentially the same as day 1 DLC that people get when they buy new, it's just already on the disc so you don't need to waste space on your hard drive with the data. Besides, maybe they're gonna release a patch as DLC that will unlock the area for people who bought it used. Or even better, you could wait before buying the game and purchase a new copy after the price drops. I don't know about you, but I haven't met anyone who has RAGE at the top of their buying list.

I guess what I'm saying is be patient. No one is saying you need to buy it right now or not at all, why not wait and see if either A) the price plummets so you can pick it up new for cheap or B) see if they release a code as DLC that unlocks the area from the disc for you.

 

[Yopaz]

Why is everyone complaining about Gamestop ?
It is the same when you buy a game from afriend or eBay.

Because GameStop makes an industry of selling used games and on top of that they sell it for some pretty high prices. I've see new games on some stores cheaper than used on GameStop. Games on Demand on Xbox Live Arcade are sometimes cheaper than used games on GameStop. Personally I don't see that much of a difference, but I dislike GameStop because of their prices.

OT: I wont boycott Rage, then again I have no idea what the game is about and never had any plans to buy it so I guess I don't count...

I don't understand why people who dislike Gamestop and want the publishers to get more sales complain about the high prices at Gamestop. Doesn't that $5 gap between new and used make it more likely people will buy new? It sure works that way for me, I won't pay $17.99 for a $19.99 game or $54.99 for a $59.99 game.

So do you people want Gamestop to half the new price? Say if they were selling a $60 game for $30, would that be better for the publishers?

I don't complain about the high prices on games. I complain that a used game on GameStop (the kind that's pretty old) costs more used on GameStop than a new copy o the big electronic stores right next to it. Seems odd that something unopened and sealed should cost less than something that has clearly been used. Meaning GameStop earns more money from selling that single game than all the parties involved in selling a new game receives combined.

 

[Epona]

Why is everyone complaining about Gamestop ?
It is the same when you buy a game from afriend or eBay.

Because GameStop makes an industry of selling used games and on top of that they sell it for some pretty high prices. I've see new games on some stores cheaper than used on GameStop. Games on Demand on Xbox Live Arcade are sometimes cheaper than used games on GameStop. Personally I don't see that much of a difference, but I dislike GameStop because of their prices.

OT: I wont boycott Rage, then again I have no idea what the game is about and never had any plans to buy it so I guess I don't count...

I don't understand why people who dislike Gamestop and want the publishers to get more sales complain about the high prices at Gamestop. Doesn't that $5 gap between new and used make it more likely people will buy new? It sure works that way for me, I won't pay $17.99 for a $19.99 game or $54.99 for a $59.99 game.

So do you people want Gamestop to half the new price? Say if they were selling a $60 game for $30, would that be better for the publishers?

I don't complain about the high prices on games. I complain that a used game on GameStop (the kind that's pretty old) costs more used on GameStop than a new copy o the big electronic stores right next to it. Seems odd that something unopened and sealed should cost less than something that has clearly been used. Meaning GameStop earns more money from selling that single game than all the parties involved in selling a new game receives combined.

That only happens when a retail store is trying to clearance a game out. I remember buying Paper Mario Thousand Year Door at Target for $10 while it was higher at Gamestop. It's only because Target was trying to get rid of it.

Do you complain when Wal Mart has a lower price than KMart too or is this exclusive Gamestop hate?

 

[Epona]

This 'buy it new to play things that would have been included otherwise!' crap needs to end. im sick of game companies thinking that they can do this to us, as consumers. we dont have to put up with this bull anymore. WE decide whether or not their game gets bought. WE decide to put money down for a title they release. they dont get to decide that for us. im tired of the companies thinking that they can get away with this, just because they assume we will always buy their games no matter what.

If we allow this to continue, what will happen to games like Skyrim? do you want to only be able to access 15 quests if you buy it new? or to a new extreme: you can only dual wield if you buy it new?

Who the fuck cares?

That is what I want to know.

So far all I have heard is "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

All I can say is "Get over it."

Stop reading threads about this if they bother you. Ya know, take your own advice and get over it.

 

[I-Protest-I]

I buy all my games brand new pretty much (3 of 45 xbox 360 titles are pre-owned.)

I fully support the developers doing this, it will only make me as a customer more wary in the long run and less likely to spend so frivolously without checking reviews.

 

[Epona]

This 'buy it new to play things that would have been included otherwise!' crap needs to end. im sick of game companies thinking that they can do this to us, as consumers. we dont have to put up with this bull anymore. WE decide whether or not their game gets bought. WE decide to put money down for a title they release. they dont get to decide that for us. im tired of the companies thinking that they can get away with this, just because they assume we will always buy their games no matter what.

If we allow this to continue, what will happen to games like Skyrim? do you want to only be able to access 15 quests if you buy it new? or to a new extreme: you can only dual wield if you buy it new?

Who the fuck cares?

That is what I want to know.

So far all I have heard is "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

All I can say is "Get over it."

Stop reading threads about this if they bother you. Ya know, take your own advice and get over it.

Or you could answer the question I posted. All I have seen in this thread, or at least the majority of it is a bunch of Pirates and poor people crying about some tiny little section of a game. Little to NO constructive conversation.

You still haven't answered the question.

You asked no question. Who the fuck cares isn't a question as far as I am concerned, it's a comment letting us know that you don't care. Great, you don't care so go away.

 

[Epona]

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You asked no question. Who the fuck cares isn't a question as far as I am concerned, it's a comment letting us know that you don't care. Great, you don't care so go away.

Who: This is me asking Which person/Thing/All-Knowing-Being
The: Article
Fuck: I am using this as an Adjective
Cares: verb

All together: Who the fuck cares?

It is indeed a question, one that you immediately wrote off.

I care, alot of people care. See, you learned nothing new from the question.

 

[kickyourass]

I was gonna say something, but this person said it first.

No, it doesn't need to stop. Developers don't get a CENT from someone buying the game used. Gamestop and other used game companies keep all the profits from used games; they don't politely give the developers or publishers some money for that game. THAT is why they are doing these day 1 DLC things... so they can try to still earn profits from used sales.

If you care about video games and want to support the industry, then buy new. If you don't give a shit and just want to save yourself money, then feel free to buy used, but don't ***** when game developers are trying to recuperate the loses of someone playing their game without giving them money because you don't want to support the industry.

Go boycott something fucking meaningful... not this.

Thanks, you just saved me about 5 minutes.

 

[William Ossiss]

All I have seen in this thread, or at least the majority of it is a bunch of Pirates and poor people crying

oh, so there is something wrong with being poor?

im sure that, unlike you, most of the people here have something like my yearly game budget. i dont like to assume, but this sounds like you have a bunch of money lying around that you can frivolously spend on games. unlike you, us "poor people" dont have the kind of money to buy a new game every time one comes out. (i have no experience 'pirating' games. i am no thief, thank you very much.)

besides, never once did i mention gamestop in any of my entries. all im merely saying is that they shouldnt take away content like that from anything we do if we dont buy it new. if they had said "buy new and get day one DLC" yeah. ok then. but they're marketing it as "buy it new get this thing. buy it used, your screwed."

if AC: brotherhood had something like that, i wouldnt have even bought it at all. i dont have the money for something new like that. buy i bought it used, and had some points so i bought the DLC. which goes straight to developers pockets.

as for your question, I care. as do many of the other people posting in this thread. and as someone told you, if you dont like this kind of thing, dont comment. simplistic and easy to do.