Poll: Call of Duty requires Skill... or not?

[qeinar]

I would say that Call of Duty does require some amount of skill. A lot of it however, is just hoping for a good connection and pressing the knife button faster than the other guy.

it is quite easy to put yourself in situations where you will not get knifed, but indeed in a knife fight you will have to relly on a better conection and reaction time. or you can go pc to get servers where you can choose how good your connection will be, having 20 ms to the server is quite nice.

I also know people doing good on xbox and ps3 with less than good connections. tactics and awareness is a pretty big part of cod.

 

[starkiller212]

A little. Not too much. I mean, getting into it and strategizing with your team takes some skill (making your team listen to you in the first place is just luck).

But come on, if I can pick up a controller and go +3K/D on my first match ever, then there isn't much involved here.

One match doesn't prove anything, for all we know every other player could have been new to the game too. What was your K/D after 1000 kills?


Of course CoD takes skill, both inherent (some players will always be better than others) and learned (my friends and I have all improved significantly over the last several years of playing FPS's). That being said, luck/randomness plays a larger part in the game than even other shooters. Connection speed, skill of your teammates, where you happen to be relative to other players' spawns, etc. are all uncontrollable to a degree, yet have a massive influence on whether you die or get kills. Players are commonly killed without even seeing or getting a shot off at their attackers because of the relatively high weapon damage; in a game like Halo, the basic guns don't really kill your targets quickly enough for that, so it requires greater skill/precision to kill them before they kill you.

 

[elvor0]

Yeah, of course it does, reaction time, aiming, knowledge of maps, tactics, and whatever else comes into shooters. Sure it's easier than CSS, but CSS is fucking hardcore, but that's not a bad thing, if I want to just have fun I'll hop into COD, I have to be in a certain mindset to play CSS properly, because it requires a bit more skill to play, but that's not a bad thing, sometimes I want to have fun, sometimes I want to be competitive.

Besides, it would appear to me CoD on the PC and CoD on the xbox appear to be two completely different beasts, whenever I play it on pc, it's very slow based, hiding in bushes, and being careful and whatnot, wheras whenever I watch it on xbox, it's very fast and manic. I dunno, cods never seemed twitch based to me, it's quite methodical and a bit more like "real war", in that people are never running around like chickens, everyone's very careful, checking round corners, moving around slowly, not really taking risks. Maybe it's just because I grew up with CSS, and that's twitch based to the point of rage inducing, so everything else just seems slower in comparison.

A little. Not too much. I mean, getting into it and strategizing with your team takes some skill (making your team listen to you in the first place is just luck).

But come on, if I can pick up a controller and go +3K/D on my first match ever, then there isn't much involved here.

That would only be correct if you'd never ever played a shooter before, if you play Battlefield, CSS or whatever and then CoD, you don't start CoD forgetting all the skills that you learned in Battlefield or CSS.

 

[Nouw]

Every game requires skill however in this particular game, less of it is needed as I hear from people. I doubt it though because the difference between a newbie and someone who's been playing for 3 years isn't a master in twitchy reflexes but rather they know what to do in the right time.

 

[Bobbity]

Generally knowing the best loadouts, where people will be and what strategies are commonly used, and so on are the best ways to be good at the game. I wouldn't so much call it skill as general knowledge, although it does require some level of skill.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Of course it does.

If it didn't. No one would be measurably better at it than anybody else.

I'm sick of these threads. It's just full of elitists using it as another chance to reminisce in their halcyon days and complain about how everything's gone down the toilet since counter strike.

If the game was so easy. Why do you lose at it?

having fast reactions in of itself is a skill. Sure it requires a completely different set of skills than some other shooters. Doesn't mean they're any better or worse.

And before I get the inevitable knee-jerk reactions here. I don't personally like COD anymore. I've gotten really tiered of it. That doesn't mean I'm just going to storm off in a huff and complain that the game takes no skill to play.

Then why did you read and comment in the first place when you said you hated threads like these because to me it seems illogical for you to want to come here and comment on the hate instead of just a simple yes or no.

 

[elvor0]

Of course it does.

If it didn't. No one would be measurably better at it than anybody else.

I'm sick of these threads. It's just full of elitists using it as another chance to reminisce in their halcyon days and complain about how everything's gone down the toilet since counter strike.

If the game was so easy. Why do you lose at it?

having fast reactions in of itself is a skill. Sure it requires a completely different set of skills than some other shooters. Doesn't mean they're any better or worse.

And before I get the inevitable knee-jerk reactions here. I don't personally like COD anymore. I've gotten really tiered of it. That doesn't mean I'm just going to storm off in a huff and complain that the game takes no skill to play.

Then why did you read and comment in the first place when you said you hated threads like these because to me it seems illogical for you to want to come here and comment on the hate instead of just a simple yes or no.

Because having a simple yes or no doesn't enforce his point either way, a good answer explains the reasoning behind your opinion.

 

[Daveeo]

some minor Skills will be required if your not laming around with the knife setup or noob tube stuff.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Not alot of mastery can be found really, mostly it's about learning the maps, spawn points and peoples preferred locations.
Other then that you got the aim-bots and automatic rifles to help you spray down anyone, and a knife if you can't even do that.

 

[Engarde]

Yes, it requires skill to suceed, as in all things. The spray on most guns isn't enough to cause random error to have a large influence. In relitavely even standings, the skilled player will win, likely as not.

Some things upset the balance, however, like game balance (both guns and perks), map layout and teamsize, etc.

 

[thom_cat_]

It takes skill to win consistently, but no skill is required to play.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Of course it does.

If it didn't. No one would be measurably better at it than anybody else.

I'm sick of these threads. It's just full of elitists using it as another chance to reminisce in their halcyon days and complain about how everything's gone down the toilet since counter strike.

If the game was so easy. Why do you lose at it?

having fast reactions in of itself is a skill. Sure it requires a completely different set of skills than some other shooters. Doesn't mean they're any better or worse.

And before I get the inevitable knee-jerk reactions here. I don't personally like COD anymore. I've gotten really tiered of it. That doesn't mean I'm just going to storm off in a huff and complain that the game takes no skill to play.

Then why did you read and comment in the first place when you said you hated threads like these because to me it seems illogical for you to want to come here and comment on the hate instead of just a simple yes or no.

Because having a simple yes or no doesn't enforce his point either way, a good answer explains the reasoning behind your opinion.

But saying you hate threads like these is just an opinion and not an answer to the threads question in general, its almost like an unwanted gesture.

 

[Toeys]

First of all. i have a longstanding theory that the more hyped up titles like these have a massive userbase of varied skill levels and playtime per day and that's why it seems so much more easier than many other multiplayer fps games.

Second. These games require you to have a combination of map knowledge, reactionspeed, weapon/perk knowledge and aim. so they demand skill and experience. not all skill is aim though, although most multiplayer fps nuts don't agree. so i tube them... x-)

 

[elvor0]

Of course it does.

If it didn't. No one would be measurably better at it than anybody else.

I'm sick of these threads. It's just full of elitists using it as another chance to reminisce in their halcyon days and complain about how everything's gone down the toilet since counter strike.

If the game was so easy. Why do you lose at it?

having fast reactions in of itself is a skill. Sure it requires a completely different set of skills than some other shooters. Doesn't mean they're any better or worse.

And before I get the inevitable knee-jerk reactions here. I don't personally like COD anymore. I've gotten really tiered of it. That doesn't mean I'm just going to storm off in a huff and complain that the game takes no skill to play.

Then why did you read and comment in the first place when you said you hated threads like these because to me it seems illogical for you to want to come here and comment on the hate instead of just a simple yes or no.

Because having a simple yes or no doesn't enforce his point either way, a good answer explains the reasoning behind your opinion.

But saying you hate threads like these is just an opinion and not an answer to the threads question in general, its almost like an unwanted gesture.

This is true, but he did explain both his hatred and sort of answer the OP in the same post, I suppose by saying he hates the thread and then explaining that, he tells the OP why (at least in his opinion) these threads don't really need to exist, it's just sort of a way of pointing out the pointlessness of the thread.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

First of all. i have a longstanding theory that the more hyped up titles like these have a massive userbase of varied skill levels and playtime per day and that's why it seems so much more easier than many other multiplayer fps games.

Second. These games require you to have a combination of map knowledge, reactionspeed, weapon/perk knowledge and aim. so they demand skill and experience. not all skill is aim though, although most multiplayer fps nuts don't agree. so i tube them... x-)

More perks and game mechanics are needed along with bigger maps for increase in skill usage and not forgetting that grenade & rocket launchers really need to be removed from most fps games since simple people resort to a simple weapon to get the same kill that could have been equally earned with actual skill and yet many people do this and i just face palm at the sheer stupidity.

 

[andreustalyn]

Also, there's a slight difference between kills (K/D and total kills) versus wins (in objective based games). I see a lot of run-and-gun types that may have high K/D and points but don't actually contribute to the teams chances of winning (often with low captures and defenses). I typically play domination or CTF, and although my K/D usually hovers between 1 and 2 and lower on bad days, I do my best to capture objectives or constantly take out aircraft and equipment. Totally a different aspect than just twitch gunning.

...though nothing frustrates you more than getting gunned down by a racist 8-year-old or getting stabbed 15 feet away.

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Of course it does.

If it didn't. No one would be measurably better at it than anybody else.

I'm sick of these threads. It's just full of elitists using it as another chance to reminisce in their halcyon days and complain about how everything's gone down the toilet since counter strike.

If the game was so easy. Why do you lose at it?

having fast reactions in of itself is a skill. Sure it requires a completely different set of skills than some other shooters. Doesn't mean they're any better or worse.

And before I get the inevitable knee-jerk reactions here. I don't personally like COD anymore. I've gotten really tiered of it. That doesn't mean I'm just going to storm off in a huff and complain that the game takes no skill to play.

Then why did you read and comment in the first place when you said you hated threads like these because to me it seems illogical for you to want to come here and comment on the hate instead of just a simple yes or no.

Because having a simple yes or no doesn't enforce his point either way, a good answer explains the reasoning behind your opinion.

But saying you hate threads like these is just an opinion and not an answer to the threads question in general, its almost like an unwanted gesture.

This is true, but he did explain both his hatred and sort of answer the OP in the same post, I suppose by saying he hates the thread and then explaining that, he tells the OP why (at least in his opinion) these threads don't really need to exist, it's just sort of a way of pointing out the pointlessness of the thread.

That is also true (but i also hate cod just as much) and yet i don't feel like saying how bad it was in a thread that is asking a simple question but i understand your point.

 

[Valiance]

Where's the "Less than a late 90's style arena FPS (quake 3, UT'99), but more than what most people think" option?

I guess that's a bit unwieldy.

Anyway, my point is, there's a lot more to it than it seems. Some of it is pretty much knowledge - knowing the layout of the map, the strengths and weaknesses of each weapon, which killstreak is what, when to cash in on those, etc.

Some of it is physical - reflexes, aim (hitscan especially), movement.
Some of it is strategical and tactical - map control, positioning, flanking, cover fire, smoke grenades, whatever.

I don't really play the game much, but from what I've seen, the same basics from other team-based FPS games apply.