I know how about CoD: Crimean War or CoD: Crusades?? Ok, sorry. There are just certain settings that wouldn't play well in an FPS treatment.Lordmarkus said:
Poll: Call of Duty: Vietnam?
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Have both sides for a mode like this. One where you're a protester trying to break through a police blockade, and another where you're National Guard troops fighting back wave after wave of stereotypically hippie protesters.ReincarnatedFTP said:
I'm perfectly aware of why Vietnam happened. Plus you're making no sense, you've basically just argued my point. What are you trying to say?lostclause said:
Read above about the revolutionary war mod. Transplant that into russia and you have the crimean war. It would heavily rely on melee but things like Riddick and Zenoclash show melee can work. Personally I wish a developer would take the risk and go for it. Maybe cod wouldn't be the best series to put it in because people will expect more fast action shooting but it could work.Dirty Apple said:
I agree about crusades, though you can go play assasin's creed for roughly the same experience.
I agree with you, except for the mutual benefit bit, that's why I'm arguing your point. My comment was more a misgiving that the US could drag half the world into a regional conflict they had no right to be in in the first place.Vanguard_Ex said:
I don't think it would work at all. Relatively little of that war was actually open combat, so from a gameplay perspective it'd be horrendous and dull.
From the Vietnamese perspective it might be more interesting, if a little too controversy-baiting.
From the Vietnamese perspective it might be more interesting, if a little too controversy-baiting.
Coming back to The West from Vietnam and seeing Watchmen was something that made me feel horribly disconnected from everyone around me. They've all seen American movies about the Vietnam war. I'd been to a Vietnamese museum about the American war.GodsOneMistake said:
It would be a travesty and an insult if it didn't accurately portray the history and all viewpoints, and if it did ... well, I suggested this in "world's most controversial game" before I saw this thread, because if it did include accurate history for the whole period*, it'd be a twisted sort of game world.
Napalm, Agent Orange, deformed babies, prostitution, drugs, conscription, white phosphorus, protests, tunnels, bunkers, spies, rape, massacres, cluster bombs, UXO, mines, fragging, booby traps, bombs, destruction of cultural heritage, destruction of the ecosystem and maybe Captain Willard as an Easter Egg? That's hardly the clear-cut world of Doom, Hexen and Quake, is it?
Bear in mind that any locals you cultivated as contacts for espionage, cooking, teaching the locals about microbiology or anything else would be at risk once Saigon falls, and there won't be enough room on the helicopters.
At least Billy Joel's already provided the theme music.
As I said in the other thread, to make it really controversial, they could throw you into My Lai along the way. Go on. Work out, in the middle of all that, wtf you're supposed to do.
* From a Vietnamese point of view, the whole period would be from when the Japanese took Vietnam off the French through the end of WW2, the Vietnamese kicking out the Japanese and deciding to carry on and do the same to the French, Dien Bien Phu, the division of the country, the sending of US forces to support French forces, the handover from French to US and from US to Saigon puppet government and eventual reunification and liberation. You can't just start in '59 any more than you can start telling the story of WW2 in 1941.
Edit to add: another, although I've no idea what they're saying. The images in the second one ... well, like I said, if you're going to portray it, tell the truth.
Yes but the crucial difference is that the communists were right.tellmeimaninja said:
And no that's not just propaganda. The south was corrupt.
All hail his majesty the ninja!tellmeimaninja said:
I'm hoping that by getting in early I can be the vizer.
They'd have to make it more complicated than that!Broken Wings said:
Have a lot of personality types available for "random NPC soldier" and "random NPC NCO" and "random NPC officer" on both sides, and of course for civilians, and have lots of variations on each for how life's been treating them, so a unit that's been getting hell for two weeks will behave differently from one that's had a quiet tour or just got into country or back from R&R, and civilians in an untroubled area will behave differently from those who've been raided or bombed or whatever a few times.
Also put in drugs and make them affect soldiers short-term as per expectations plus long-term in that they'd affect how susceptible soldiers are to PTSD. If you're in a position to control your unit's access to them, that's going to play on your nerves even before the first time someone in your patrol has a flashback while loaded, locked and armed.
There could be mini-games on R&R too, and maybe you could find yourself thrown from mini-game to combat faster than you can scream "Incoming!"
Communism says that everything is the property of the state and everyone works for the state, which provides everything. In other words, it's one big corporation with a lot of different lines of business, and everyone lives on-site in employee housing, sends their children to on-site creches and schools and works in their assigned job. The board of directors is called the Communist Party Cadre or Inner Circle or something like that, the Chairman of the Board is the Chairman of the Party, the President is the President, the CEO is the Prime Minister, ...tellmeimaninja said:
... and yes, they are turning a profit and sharing it much more among themselves than among the lowly workers. They've got millions of shares each. You peons have one each. Yes, they do think they're worth millions of you each.
Now, imagine that McDonald's, Halliburton, Intel, Microsoft, Harley-Davidson, Ford, Chrysler, John Deere, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Wal*Mart, Exxon-Mobil, Texaco, IBM, GM, Monsanto, PMMI and News Corporation all got together under one board of directors and the Republican Party was just their Human Resources Department. See the difference?
(The problem with democracy is that power goes to people who want it.)
It depends. If Treyarch is developing it, then hell no.
In a sense, it will be a step backward (like WaW) no matter what, but if it's put together well, it could be a good game.
In a sense, it will be a step backward (like WaW) no matter what, but if it's put together well, it could be a good game.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no (Bangs head on wall in time with each "No")
Seriously, america wins a fight against people with less than half of the technology, hardly-to-non trained troops and they instantly get promoted to heros of the land?
Enough WWII, enough wars involving america, make shit up and don't keep putting america on a pedestal, they impose there freakin' values onto others who don't want it.
Why isn't there an epic game where i play as a freedom fighter getting americans out of say...Iran.
Seriously, america wins a fight against people with less than half of the technology, hardly-to-non trained troops and they instantly get promoted to heros of the land?
Enough WWII, enough wars involving america, make shit up and don't keep putting america on a pedestal, they impose there freakin' values onto others who don't want it.
Why isn't there an epic game where i play as a freedom fighter getting americans out of say...Iran.