Poll: Camping: Whats the big deal?

[Arcticflame]

Outside of exploiting actual bugs, cheating, or griefing, I don't think that there is anything you can do that the other team has any right to complain to you about. You're the opposite team, if they are complaining, then your doing your job right.

However, YOUR team might complain. Camping is certainly a viable strategy, but its not always a good one. Sometimes, your team would have a right to complain about you sitting in one place, picking off a few low priority stragglers, and doing absolutely nothing to advance towards your objectives.

Well that isn't true either, everyone has a right to complain always, it's just they might be wrong.

 

[Booze Zombie]

.... Booze Zombie, you, sir, are the only member of the walking dead I won't headshot when the Apocalypse rears its ugly-ass head. Instead, I will simply high-five ye.

Cheers, angry Scottish man.

 

[Jekken6]

Camping is only a valid tactic if you're a sniper-type class. Unless you spawn camp.

 

[Altorin]

there's no problem with it. If you, as a player, can't deal with a camper, especially one who stays in the exact same space, then you suck. There are usually grenades in games. Use them. Campers don't deal with grenades well.

 

[Maibus]

I like camping, mainly because I'm a calm patient person who likes watching people through a high powered scope... maybe I should talk to someone about that >.>

 

[Mushroomfreak111]

You know how we can sort all of this mess out? Instead of using the word camping, how about we call it ambushing? It's what they're doing, after all, and it sounds nicer.

Brilliant!

Behold, from this day the tactic shall be known as 'ambushing', and camping shall be used to refer to people spawncamping^^

However, YOUR team might complain. Camping is certainly a viable strategy, but its not always a good one. Sometimes, your team would have a right to complain about you sitting in one place, picking off a few low priority stragglers, and doing absolutely nothing to advance towards your objectives.

I agree, but this then is a debate on 'good camping' vs' bad camping'. I will use a great deal of movement, but still remain stationary a lot more than the aggressive players. Just sitting still the entire game serves no one, and are more than likely to get the camper killed after his first kill... I always move after a kill (or more if they show up at the same time), usually keeping my old position in eyesight so I can kill the ones I just killed when they return to get me. It's a slower advance, but it is very effective and the way I enjoy playing. It's great fun for me, and the enemy soon realize my tactic and counter it if they have at least some brain...

Defending an area is fine etc, but it's when you position yourself down a corridoor, looking at the the only way in or out from the start of the game to the end, it's just not fun. I suppose one way to look at it is that it's not very sporting, and when an entire team does it the game just sucks. I've once played a game where both teams camped completely, it was idioticly boring, so much so me and someone on the other team just quit. I like to think they are still there, waiting...

Awesome, imagine it.
"I just know these bastards'll be here soon"

That would be SO funny^^. Btw, I don't camp if everyone else camp, then I go off and kill them . Being a frequent 'semi-camper' I know most good spots in the games I play, so countering them is not hard. Just note to yourself where you would camp and you will mostly be able to take them out (remember; grenades and flashbangs! even smoke is great)

 

[Doctor Glocktor]

Think about this, camping is a legit strategy, so everyone does it and as a result NOTHING HAPPENS because everyone is sitting behind a corner, camping lessens the fun of EVERYTHING becuase it
-requires no skill
-gets tons of cheap kills
-makes it less fun for the other player
-makes me quit playing potentially fun games
-is boring because your not doing anything

-Why does it require no skill? You still need to aim, plus you have to use your head to find a decent spot and then make sure you're aware of any alternate routes to you.
-What makes these kills cheap?
-Makes it less fun? Is this because the other player sucks and keeps running straight into the camper?
-If you're that butthurt about it, then it's probably best you do stop playing.
-Why do you get to decide what's boring? I camped today on MW2 and had loads of fun.

You just seem annoyed because you get killed by people being cautious and aren't good enough to counter them. None of you're arguments make any sense at all.

You know how we can sort all of this mess out? Instead of using the word camping, how about we call it ambushing? It's what they're doing, after all, and it sounds nicer.

I hope to God you die a horrible, painful death by a camper IRL.

 

[SpireOfFire]

i sort of camp. wait, kill, then displace, especially when i'm sniping.

 

[Rusty Bucket]

I spent about 10 minutes writing a huge responce about how amazingly wrong you are but instead of continuing with that, I've decided to go the crackbone method and say this, YOU ARE STUPID AND WRONG IN EVERY WAY, YOU SHOULD BE BURNT TO ASHES THEN BE SMOTHERED BY LADA GAGAS GAINT PENIS. MODS PERMA BAN ME FROM THIS RIDICULES PLACE

Well, damn, you sure showed me. I'm going to repent and give up my evil camping ways. It's good you know what you're talking about, otherwise this could have been embarrasing.

I hope to God you die a horrible, painful death by a camper IRL.

I'll take it you don't agree with me then? It's so nice to have people right inteligent, thought out responses for once.

 

[Brainbomb]

The truly sad thing is that I can pick sides on this even if I've never played an FPS. The ones who argue that camping (spawn camping being excluded, of course) is "a legitimate strategy" (that whole scene is beautiful commentary, btw) have better thought out arguments. People who argue against it in all forms just come across as blithering morons.

Those who try to argue that running and gunning takes more skill are right only on the assumption that tactical competency and "skill" are inversely proportional to one another.

 

[Eternal_24]

Defensive play is good but flat out sitting in a corner camping for the entire game pisses me off.

 

[Doctor Glocktor]

I'll take it you don't agree with me then? It's so nice to have people right inteligent, thought out responses for once.

Okay.

People like you constantly say that camping is strategic and takes more skill than so called "running and gunning". Except its not strategy. 90% of the time its just some dumbass sitting in a hard to reach corner. Camping is a cheap tactic for when you CAN'T run and gun, because you actually have to move and aim at the same time. With camping, you just, sit there. And no, if you're up against a camper that actually knows how to somewhat play, they'll be in a spot near a choke point with one access point, and they'll always be able to see you coming. In CoD grenades are a chance game unless you cook them, there's a good chance they'll either roll away or be thrown back at you. Flashbangs sometimes work, people will just spray anyway.

Camping is a cheap, stupid tactic. Stop trying to justify it.

 

[L3m0n_L1m3]

There's camping in some FPS's, and there's camping in MW2. A lot of popular camping spots only show the very top of the campers head, offering just about no chance for the victim to fight back.

 

[FungTheDestroy]

The time camping is annoying is in SOCOM when they're the last player alive, and there are five minutes left in the match. That's five minutes of running around looking for this asshole.

 

[KeiKun]

To me, Camping/Ambushing depends on the game, and there are some games that, i think, spawncamping is fine. However, those games where i accept spawn camping are the FPS where there is a "Spawn Shield" as a preventative measure to continuously destroying someone the second their screen turns into the game. There's nothing more annoying, i find, than ending a loading screen with a nice blood red screen and my character falling to the ground. But with Spawn Shield, i consider it fair game. If i'm able to get into your spawn and kill people that have a 5 second invulnerability, not my fault, you had plenty of time to react, i'm just sneakier

Note: In my opinion, for spawn camping to be even considerably fair, two conditions should be within the game itself, Spawn Shield, and a set "Base Spawn," not that random placement, conditional spawn, i've never liked random spawn because spawning in the middle of my enemy is most frustrating when i'm surrounded, kill one guy, get flanked from 18 sides and pummeled into the ground like an anorexic band geek in the gym locker room making comments on someone's mother.

Now that i've addressed spawncamping onwards to regular ol' ambushing. I personally love it, i don't resort to it every time because there are cases when one must camp to survive and ultimately win, and other cases when rushing and, as i do enjoy calling it, "Base Raping." The act of camping, is a preventative measure against said base rape. Without a strategic placement and a keen eye, you have the crazy berserk rushers that get into one's base and destroy every living thing including the kitten and his mittens, and quite possibly the pet rock. When i surprise someone who normally is all run-n-gun from a random obscure place in my very own base, i like to utter something along the lines of "Welcome to MY base ^_^ Now get out!" After all, what a house warming party without the welcoming party ^_~

Quick Summary:
Spawn camping = can be ok depends on conditions of the game, most situations you're a jerk for doing it.
Ambushing = Anti-Rush, Legitimate, i'm ok with it, even when it frustrates me.
Base Raping = Fun ^_^ ... Well... Wun for me... Was it good for you too baby? ^_~