Poll: Camping: Whats the big deal?

[bobknowsall]

There's good camping, and there's bad camping.

Take TF2 for example.

Being a demo and placing a bunch of stickys to foil the enemy's escape route = good camping.

Being a pyro and waiting right outsite the enemy's safehouse to annoyingly set them on fire = bad camping.

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OT: There's a difference between "patiently waiting for a target to present themselves" and "camping". Camping implies you're just being a dick about it, and not giving other players a chance. Waiting for a target is a perfectly viable tactic, and one that's used quite often in real life (Although MG teams may well be described as the ultimate bastard campers).

 

[ejb626]

Its annoying sometimes especially when the same camper kills me twice at which I ussually yell "God Damn he got me again!" the problem is people who camp in doorways with high caliber weapons and when everyone's doing you have no idea how frustrated campers make me sometimes they're the reason I gave up MW2 MP in fact.

 

[Jazzyluv2]

its amazing how naive the average player is about strategy. Any tactic within the limits of the game is valid as long it lets you win. No matter how utterly OP, static, aggressive, or whatever bullshit label you put on it. Generally the worst players are unable to counter campers because they are utterly naive about how the game works. Some games support camping naturally because of weapon mechanics. Others don't, such as quakeworld, due to its speed, and highly aggressive weapons you CANT CAMP, cause you will just lose map control.

I know the whole idea of map control, timing movement to areas and general thinking is far beyond the average player who runs around like an idiot attempting to shoot things that move. But the game is deeper than you think it is, but most times, your not good enough to see it.

 

[Booze Zombie]

I like sitting around waiting for stupid people to walk into my crosshairs.

It's like hunting ducks, only with idiots.

 

[Death on Trapezoids]

It's cheap. Hiding and waiting for your enemy, kill then stay in the same spot?
Not cool man, not cool.

Isn't that the point of sniping, and what killcam is for?

 

[Ham_authority95]

No problem, unless they made a glitch were you can't get them,then its purely bullshit

 

[Ymbirtt]

Myself, I get really pissed off with campers, and I don't know why they enjoy doing it. It baffles me how sitting in one place whilst a war is going on can be fun, when what you could be doing is leaping over their cover with a 12-bore shotgun or equivalent. Also, most of the maps in most of the FPSs I play on are engineered so that campers can only defend, not attack (see 2fort in Team Fortress 2), so whilst it's nice to have some defence, I don't want to see half the team doing it.

 

[Booze Zombie]

It's cheap. Hiding and waiting for your enemy, kill then stay in the same spot?
Not cool man, not cool.

Indeed, how dare they wait in a corner and reduce their chances of being shot.

It's like... everyone should run into bullets and die, like really good players do.
Isn't that what the good players do?

 

[I Stomp on Kittens]

People ***** about camping waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
look guys your just mad you got your ass killed, I understand.
Do what us big boys do, curse a alot and plot revenge.
K!

Yes yes yes yes yes! I like this...alot.

It's cheap. Hiding and waiting for your enemy, kill then stay in the same spot?
Not cool man, not cool.

Indeed, how dare they wait in a corner and reduce their chances of being shot.

It's like... everyone should run into bullets and die, like really good players do.
Isn't that what the good players do?

You are right, instead of GOING AROUND A DIFFERENT way good players just take it.

 

[Diet Chaos]

To me, "camping" is like getting a kill with a bodyshot. It's irritating to no end, but deep down in my heart, I know that it is indeed valid.
Besides, while you can get some good kills using said strategy, you can just as easily be countered.

 

[(whitty name here)]

If proper circumstances arrive, I'm ok with it. But when you get a +1 lead and go hide, or have your team watching all possible spawn points, Instantly killing the opponents as the spawn, I begin to hate.

 

[Tom the Feeble]

it ok if people wanna go camping. ive got nothing against it, i used to go camping myself. its wen people go camping and they havent been before and they think they no everything after goin once.

 

[wizzerd229]

if you have a sniper sure, camp, but if you have shotgun, no camping

 

[kawaiiamethist]

RvB: "It's a legitimate strategy!"

 

[Mushroomfreak111]

I hate it because the camper is always, always, always faster than me. If I were a little faster, then I don't think I'd have such a problem with them.

For me, this is sort of the point of camping... Being ready for the enemy to show up, then kill fast and brutal before moving on.

Killing a camper when you know where he is should almost never be hard! flank him or grenade him, I have never ever gotten killed by a camper more than once if he stayed in the same position. Which is why the smart ones move around, it's basic sniper tactics really. Saying camping is for people that are not good enough to run around and headshot everyone is silly... Camping is part of using tactics, and using my head often wins me the day compared to my enemies insane skills with hipfire-AKs... It's about getting into clever positions, sneaking behind enemy lines and actually using your clever spots before moving on. I do see why people would be pissed by getting killed in the same spot over and over, but I don't see why people would go to that same spot to get killed...

Btw, uncap-spawncamping is unforgivable and I agree this is bad... But that is not the camping I am refering to, I guess I should have specified in the OP.

I'm amazed how hostile some are on this subject, safe so say a few replies sent chills down my spine... This is the first and last time I'm making a thread on a subject like this^^

if you have a sniper sure, camp, but if you have shotgun, no camping

Grenades tend to sort out those pesky room-camping shotgunners^^

 

[Da_Schwartz]

Sometimes sure. i mean.. i am carrying a sniper rifle. >.> But I find myself moving alot too. hit and run hit and run, if not just to a blind corner in a room or even the opposite wall. There are those rare occasions where i'll hit a tne kill streak without moving and i get up and find a new spot just for the hell of it. 9 times out of ten getting myself killed in the process.

But never on spawn points or taking advantage of a glitch or any weaksauce like that that.

 

[fun-with-a-gun]

<--- see avatar.

another thing is that in MW2 for example, somebody has the brains to find a good camping spot, adds a silencer to their sniper, then kills a bunch of people while they're trying to find where you are? that is good camping. most other types are bad.

there is also the final type of camper who knows the flow of each map and waits for the fight to come to them for easy kills. they're not camping they know what they're doing.

 

[Dommyboy]

So, what's the deal with campers?

What I hate more then campers? Fucking noobtubers.