Poll: Can a movie be good if the ending has the bad guy win?

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Tri Force95 said:
i think everybody flipped shit when that happened, in the graphic novel and the movie. I did it at the movie, and I read the book so I already knew what was gonna happen.

Well, at least his journal was published
Assuming the guy did pull the journal from the crank file and publish it(as implied), it's debatable how much, if any effect, it would have. Remember, Rorschach is known for being a bit of a nutcase, without any proof, and didn't even know about the
frame Dr. Manhatten/Fake Space Squiddy plot
before he dropped it in there.

And while the movie doesn't really show it, the comic makes it rather clear that the New Frontiersmen is a far right rag, and probably has no credibility outside it's target audience.
 

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Erja_Perttu said:
Hidan03 said:
Try almost any Tarantino movie.
In Pulp Fiction there were no actual heroes; in Reservoir Dogs the good guys were the bad guys and (almost) everyone died;in Kill Bill the bride was a hero, but only acted her role as a hero by acting as a villian; in Inglourious Basterds, the villain (by which i mean Han's Landa, not Hitler) gets away, if not marked for the rest of his life; And in Jackie Brown, she worked for the villians until they try to kill her, and it ends with her taking a ton of money and running.
Robert Rodriguez movies do the same as well, it that same vein of thought. But boy those films are good.
Of course their like Rodriguez's, the two of them are basically best friends!
 
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yeah any movie can be good as long as it has a good story structure goes along with the genre of the movie and the charter go with the plot (unlike transformers 1/2
 

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I always roots for the bad guy just for a change of pace. I would love to see a movie where the world is taken over by the Brain
 

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Dalisclock said:
Tri Force95 said:
i think everybody flipped shit when that happened, in the graphic novel and the movie. I did it at the movie, and I read the book so I already knew what was gonna happen.

Well, at least his journal was published
Assuming the guy did pull the journal from the crank file and publish it(as implied), it's debatable how much, if any effect, it would have. Remember, Rorschach is known for being a bit of a nutcase, without any proof, and didn't even know about the
frame Dr. Manhatten/Fake Space Squiddy plot
before he dropped it in there.

And while the movie doesn't really show it, the comic makes it rather clear that the New Frontiersmen is a far right rag, and probably has no credibility outside it's target audience.
Touche, my good sir. you do bring up a good point, although I like to believe that the truth is indeed out, and it may change what happens.
but that me just wanting to think Rorschach didn't die in vain.
 

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bladeofdarkness said:
yes
code geass ends with the villain winning and carrying on his master plan
the ending is still a happy one for it (given what that plan is)
the again, the villain is also the protagonist so...
yes! and everyone ends up happy and/or dead. mostly happy.
still felt bad about shirley dying. and i wouldn't want to live in the aftermath, kinda boring with all the unity and fruit planting. but the fact that lelouch is the villian is what makes it so good.
 

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Yes, and there's plenty of awesome movies that do this.

Though it can also ruin a movie, like with No Country for Old Men.

Old Trailmix said:
ssgt splatter said:
At the end of Star Wars Episode 3 the Sith, in a way, win.
That was a terrible movie.
Episode 3? There isn't any episode 3, only 4, 5 and 6. Everyone knows that. Next you'll be saying the Matrix has sequels.
 

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Hell I wanted Solidus Snake to win MGS2, shit I though the boss fights with the Navy's Metal Gears, hoping there was 2 endings in it.

But alas Solidus nuke plan never got be.
 

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Yeah, in a lot of cases the movie is a whole lot better when the good guy does win.