Poll: Can an opinion be wrong?

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tofulove

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Kortney said:
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rockyoumonkeys said:
Of course they can. If your opinion is that one race is inferior to another, your opinion is wrong.
white people took over most of the world at one point world and invented most things, Asians made every thing the white man made better. black people are have a more vibrant culture than any race on Earth and native Americans were the first to use 0 in math. different but defendantly equal across the bord.
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i disagree with your opinion, unless by vibrant you mean the most shitty than yes, yes it is.
 

Just Pman

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So far what I'm seeing is that if your opinion is opposite the majority's opinion then it is false. However, if the matter is widely undecided upon or evenly split up with no clear major opinion, then the said opinion cannot be true or false. In other words, if there is a majority opinion on it then it can be true/false, but if there is no majority then we just have to wait until there is.
 

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Ace of Spades said:
Yes. I've written an essay on the topic. If you think that Hitler was a kind and gentle person, your opinion is wrong.
Hitler was to kind and gentle that Gandhi was to genocide and war :p
 

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tofulove said:
Kortney said:
tofulove said:
rockyoumonkeys said:
Of course they can. If your opinion is that one race is inferior to another, your opinion is wrong.
white people took over most of the world at one point world and invented most things, Asians made every thing the white man made better. black people are have a more vibrant culture than any race on Earth and native Americans were the first to use 0 in math. different but defendantly equal across the bord.
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i disagree with your opinion, unless by vibrant you mean the most shitty than yes, yes it is.
You've obviously never traveled then :)
 

SheleKnights

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An opinion can be wrong for the very reason that not too long ago people had the opinion that the Earth is flat.

Edit: Furthermore, some people are of the opinion that outside of the Earth intelligent life does not exist. If we were to find intelligent life, then that would prove their opinion pretty false.
 

tofulove

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Just Pman said:
So far what I'm seeing is that if your opinion is opposite the majority's opinion then it is false. However, if the matter is widely undecided upon or evenly split up with no clear major opinion, then the said opinion cannot be true or false. In other words, if there is a majority opinion on it then it can be true/false, but if there is no majority then we just have to wait until there is.
^ at one point every one thought the sun went around the earth, any one who said other wise was WRONG.
 

Irony's Acolyte

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Its an opinion- it can't be wrong. Neither can it be right, but no it cannot be wrong. "It is my opinion that all the Jews can be exterminated from the earth as the are nothing more than filthy human cockroachs." (Note: that is definatly not my opinion!) Can you really tell that person "No you do not think that. That is not your opinion."? No, you can't. They can truly believe that. You can't really tell what they can and can't think. You can try to persuade them, try to make them think that their opinion is "misguided" (in your opinion they are misguided). But maybe you are wrong. Who's to say that you are in the right?

And all just because someone has an opinion on something, doesn't mean you have to consider their opinion.
 

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Yes, however it can only be wrong to you. In my opinion(=D), each person has a different point of view, and so people will eventually see the opposite side of your thing. So because you don't agree with them makes them wrong... in YOUR opinion.

However you can't prove a negative.
 

tofulove

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THIS THREAD IS GOING PLACES, went from, do you think opinions can be wrong? to, i think hitler was right, i think hitler was wrong, why cant we flame other things people, hitler was so 1940, how about i think obama is a muslim jew hitler who wants to hand america over to the african empire. now that one is fresh.
 

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An opinion being true is a matter of majority.

100 people say your stupid, thats 100 opinions to your one. However sometimes the majority means that all the idiots are on the same side.

Or.

100 people say blue, and 100 people say red. the people of red kills all of the people of blue therefore red is the supiour colour until somebody else questions red.

This is my opinon, which can be : stupid, flawed, correct, intellengent, but most likely not backed up with alot credidentals(which I don't go around pretending I have)As long as your opinion isn't an attempt to fuck up my day(being a negative nacy persay), I'll give a listen.
 

randomsix

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When an opinion is based on false premises, it is wrong.

If an opinion runs contrary to fact, it is wrong.
 

Just Pman

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tofulove said:
THIS THREAD IS GOING PLACES, went from, do you think opinions can be wrong? to, i think hitler was right, i think hitler was wrong, why cant we flame other things people, hitler was so 1940, how about i think obama is a muslim jew hitler who wants to hand america over to the african empire. now that one is fresh.
Hahaha I just wanted people to think about is all...
 

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Kortney said:
Of course they can.

"My opinion is that people from New Zealand all have three legs".

That's not true. Yet it can still be an opinion.
And the opinion (or 'belief') cannot be proven wrong. You can happily believe, or be of the opinion that persons from New Zealand all have three legs. You can have any number of weird reasons for believing this, none of which really matter (unless you're trying to persuade me).

The thing you believe in - the facts - can be proven one way or another. In this case, we can look at Kiwis* and count their legs, and thus determine that they generally have two legs (or sometimes fewer). We can have definite knowledge about this - an individual's legs can be counted.

But people will interpret this knowledge differently, dependent on their personal experience, knowledge of statistics, level of sanity etc. - you might look at the data showing that 1000 Kiwis each have two legs and decide that it doesn't prove a thing, because you know that all New Zealanders really have three.

The fact that no opinion can be categorically wrong doesn't automatically make all opinions equally valid, though - a good opinion can be backed up by persuasive argument, at the very least (and possibly some facts and figures where appropriate).

Conversely a bad opinion is little more than the incoherent ravings of a lunatic (possibly backed up by something he's daubed across the wall in his own shit).

*'people from New Zealand', not 'small flightless birds' or 'little hairy fruit'

(tl;dr - opinions can be persuasive or nonsensical, but only the assertions or facts they're based on can be wrong or right)
 

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The Austin said:
Kortney said:
Of course they can.

"My opinion is that people from New Zealand all have three legs".

That's not true. Yet it can still be an opinion.
That's not classified as an opinion. That's a statement with "My opinion" in front of it.

OP: No. No it can not be wrong.
As stated above, a statement can be wrong, but an opinion can not be wrong.

For example:

"I thought that Mass Effect sucked."
Is this wrong? Of course not, because it's an opinion.
Now, look at this:

"Mass Effect sucked"
Is this wrong? Yes. Yes it is. Because, despite the fact that I don't like Mass Effect, it is held in general consensus to be a good game, therefore, my statement is false.

See? :D
Nope.

My opinion = I think
"I think that people from New Zealand all have three legs."
That's an opinion.

And why is Mass Effect a good game because the "general consensus" is that it is a good game? "General consensus" is the same as "a lot of people think" which is also the same as "alot of people's opinions are". And if were saying that the "majority's opinion" is in the right, I would just like to bring up the point that it was the "majority's opinion" that Jews were less than human circa 1936~1946.

Majority opinion (or general consensus as you put it) =/= Fact
 

jacx

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just beacuse an opinion has no comprehendable logic attached to it dosent mean its wrong...
 

tofulove

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Kortney said:
tofulove said:
Kortney said:
tofulove said:
rockyoumonkeys said:
Of course they can. If your opinion is that one race is inferior to another, your opinion is wrong.
white people took over most of the world at one point world and invented most things, Asians made every thing the white man made better. black people are have a more vibrant culture than any race on Earth and native Americans were the first to use 0 in math. different but defendantly equal across the bord.
Fixed.

i disagree with your opinion, unless by vibrant you mean the most shitty than yes, yes it is.
You've obviously never traveled then :)
who would not want to travel to africa, there no vacation like watching kids starve to death while local gangs kill each other and kidnap you for ransom money. mmmm vibrant that culture is.

only 2 places that worth going to in africa, northern africa, and south africa,