Poll: Can England be invaded

[tsb247]

We have the greatest army in the world except on numbers (America and China beat us there). I'm sorry, USA, but it's true, we do have a better army, you simply beat us on numbers, but our technology is actually just as good as or better than yours on pretty much all fronts. The only problem is that cost cutting Labour don't like spending so hardly any sees the front line. If we did have that stuff out there instead of lying around in equipment stores back at Sandhurst, Cosford, Plymouth, Cranwell and everywhere else, then it's a widely held fact we would easily be able to beat the Americans in battle. As it happens, simply because of that we would be able to resist most attacks on our country (not counting nuclear warfare, but since we also apparently have nukes [I'm still slightly unsure there though] then everyone would lose there).

That said, no country, even America, is completely invulnerable. I know quite a bit about military tactics, warfare in general, the UK Armed Forces and have first hand experience of UK military training. But I can safely say that with a well trained and large enough force, we could still be invaded successfully. By the same token we could probably invade America (thank you, 'special relationship', take what you want, why don't you?). Love Actually reference in the brackets, by the way. No country is invulnerable, and the UK is no exception.

I would say that the U.K. and U.S. are pretty much on even ground. They have had so many joint training exercises in years past (I'm not sure about present, but I imagine they still do) that I don't really see how one can be over another; we share almost everything. Traditionally, the U.K. doesn't spend as much on their military anyhow, so I don't see how the U.K. could have the technological edge as far as weaopns, armor, and other combat systems go. The rate at which the U.S. military technology is growing is jaw-dropping. Do you know what we do with all of that technology? We sell it to the U.K., Germany, France, Australia, and a few other nations as well. Heck, the standard infantry rifle that is in use in the U.K. only exists because we invented the round it fires, and the U.S. shared.

The U.S. also has the upper hand in specific things like UAVs and fighter aircraft (just to name a few). Just Google what Northrup Grumman is doing (fully autonomous unmanned fighter aircraft) and look at the F-22 specs. There is some amazing stuff going on out there.

Having said that, I wil also say this:

British sniper training = second to none. The U.S. Marines have to borrow from their playbook all the time. Hell, they invented the art!

I can't say much about the Royal Marines and the regular Army because I simply don't know any real specifics about them. I do know that the U.S. likes to attach SEAL teams to Royal Marine units, but I don't know why.

My point is this: The U.K.'s military technology is probably about on par with the U.S., but I would hardly say it is greater. If it is, it won't be for long, and it is probably not by much. The two countries share so much, that I doubt either one has any real edge over the other. I just wanted to point out that the U.S. does indeed have the technological advantage in some areas, but I suppose that it is rendered useless by the fact that we just sell it all anyhow.

If you disagree, please, discuss.

 

[squiggothhunter]

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

Might wanna do your homework on that one, it takes far more to get into the SAS than it does to become a Navy Seal.

Yes, but that is because the U.S has many specialized forces. Instead of one over-arcing one, there are things such as seals for the navy, recon marines for marines, rangers and green berets for the army.. We deal in highly specialized soldiers for each branch, instead of general skilled soldiers who though, are highly trained.

Yep so our SAS can deal with any situation that presents itself, always be prepared just read the amount of stuff they have to do just to be considered for selection

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A517664

Also not to be unfair to Americans but I feel that if the American army didn't have all there fancy technology then they'd be pretty average in terms of fighting ability compared to other countries armies, in terms of moral, training and fighting prowess ect. (like the Russians, Japanese, English ect, we've used some incrbidly stupid but brave tactics over the years.) of course with those armies attacking us we'd be pretty screwed.

Fancy technology? The brits probably couldn't have taken over africa or the americas without that fancy "gun" technology. Superior Tech=Victory
That being said England is very techd out and would make any invasion a pain in the ass

 

[tsb247]

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

Might wanna do your homework on that one, it takes far more to get into the SAS than it does to become a Navy Seal.

Yes, but that is because the U.S has many specialized forces. Instead of one over-arcing one, there are things such as seals for the navy, recon marines for marines, rangers and green berets for the army.. We deal in highly specialized soldiers for each branch, instead of general skilled soldiers who though, are highly trained.

Yep so our SAS can deal with any situation that presents itself, always be prepared just read the amount of stuff they have to do just to be considered for selection

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A517664

Also not to be unfair to Americans but I feel that if the American army didn't have all there fancy technology then they'd be pretty average in terms of fighting ability compared to other countries armies, in terms of moral, training and fighting prowess ect. (like the Russians, Japanese, English ect, we've used some incrbidly stupid but brave tactics over the years.) of course with those armies attacking us we'd be pretty screwed.

The experience from previous U.S. wars led to the advancement of all of that fancy technology. Excellent training led to the concepts that developed the technology that we depend on, and tus we have become overly dependent on our technology (if that makes any sense). I would hardly say we are an average fighting force, but I will admit, the U.S. Army will recruit just about anyone nowadays. :/

And yes, I will concede that the SAS are pretty much supreme badasses. Although I hear they get along with the SEALS fairly well and operate in conjunction more and more often these days.

 

[tsb247]

Superior Tech=Victory

Ummm... No. Just look at the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan back in the early 80s. Afghani farmers put up one hell of a fight and managed to stalemate Soviet forces for years. The U.S. tipped the scales by selling them stinger missile systems, and then the Soviets had nowhere to hide. The stalemate exhausted the Soviets ability to make war and eventually they had to pull out.

The current situation in Afghanistan is evidence of this as well. Taliban forces had managed to stalemate American forces in many areas. Why? They have the guerilla thing down pat, and it proves that tactics can overwhelm superrior technology and firepower if properly implimented. Have the Taliban won? Not yet, but they are now trying to flee into Pakistan where thay are currently stirring up quite a bit of trouble.

 

[A010110100101102]

yes, but it would be incredibly hard.

 

[keyton777]

Can The UK be invaded?
History says: No

because you have literally nothing useful on your island (near as i can tell)

I'm Irish...

how the bloody hell am i supposed to know that?

 

[Kinguendo]

Can The UK be invaded?
History says: No

because you have literally nothing useful on your island (near as i can tell)

I'm Irish...

how the bloody hell am i supposed to know that?

Oh jeez, I dont know... Check his profile? XD

 

[Kinguendo]

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

Might wanna do your homework on that one, it takes far more to get into the SAS than it does to become a Navy Seal.

Yes, but that is because the U.S has many specialized forces. Instead of one over-arcing one, there are things such as seals for the navy, recon marines for marines, rangers and green berets for the army.. We deal in highly specialized soldiers for each branch, instead of general skilled soldiers who though, are highly trained.

Yep so our SAS can deal with any situation that presents itself, always be prepared just read the amount of stuff they have to do just to be considered for selection

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A517664

Also not to be unfair to Americans but I feel that if the American army didn't have all there fancy technology then they'd be pretty average in terms of fighting ability compared to other countries armies, in terms of moral, training and fighting prowess ect. (like the Russians, Japanese, English ect, we've used some incrbidly stupid but brave tactics over the years.) of course with those armies attacking us we'd be pretty screwed.

The experience from previous U.S. wars led to the advancement of all of that fancy technology. Excellent training led to the concepts that developed the technology that we depend on, and tus we have become overly dependent on our technology (if that makes any sense). I would hardly say we are an average fighting force, but I will admit, the U.S. Army will recruit just about anyone nowadays. :/

And yes, I will concede that the SAS are pretty much supreme badasses. Although I hear they get along with the SEALS fairly well and operate in conjunction more and more often these days.

They may see each other about but the SEALS still dont even know the SAS guys names... that was a completely relevant joke! XD

 

[BlackHat]

Nato command, Europe, Usa,Austria, Trident nuclear system, one of the best trained armys in the world which has won every conflict that it has been in since the F***kin romans,God, The Queen, The SAS, One of the best trained navys in the world, One of the most technologically advanced and best trained Airfoces, An entire nation who would fight to the death to protect it, Some of the tuffest sea crossing conditions in the world, Bad Weather, Some of the most famous generals in history and the stratigical heratige that it brings, One of the most innovative nations (we invented everything in the last 40 years and most of the modern battle tatics other than shock and awe which dosen't work for shit america two wars you havn't won vientnam and iraq), Stiff upper lip, The Scottish ( the only thing there really good at which is beating stuff up) , tea and ale

Nuff said

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

You can declair anything you like dosen't make it true

Flame war Ie he's going to napalm me

OK starting from WW2 which for arguments sake we wills say you were in (as little more than hired hands but nm) Look at your losses compaired to english and againin all the wars you have been in

England deploy small teams of effective units to capture objectives

Americans Run at them with hundreads of men whilst they get their legs blown off, you care as much for the individual solider as you do your bullets

IN the iraq war you suffered inordinate casulties becasue your porley lead
You either have the brains or eyesight of badgers when it comes to friendly fire

need i remind you we needed to paint the top of our tanks ORANGE just so your stupid A-10's woudln't shoot them i mean tell me how meny challenger tanks did iraqies have

"I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning," Where the fuck did you see that other than possilbe sharp or another 18th century reancment

And navy seals , ha you might as well call them the featch and carry brigades who drop lazer targeters and shoot everyone (including innocents)

You are forgetting to mention that the U.S. had so many more soldiers in WWII than the British did. Also, sure our army is retarded, because we have so many soldiers to spare we might as well just rush in. But with marines, paratroopers, etc. etc., we did no such thing. Band of Brothers and E-Z company is an excellent example of this. I think they even, yep, they did save about 150 British soldiers.

I won't even go into the Iraq war, that whole war was a mistake, and that line about the Iraq war and the line under it are so poorly worded I can't even understand them.

Friendly fire happens, it's part of war. When you are flying in a fucking plane, telling tanks apart might be a little challenging. It's not like you can radio in and ask them.

I was referring to the Japanese tactics during WWII. Even when they knew they would die, they would fight to the last man for their country, when Britain, US, Canada would all run away and try to regroup or what not.

Okay, maybe I shouldn't have been so bias in my opinion, but let me ask you this.

Great Britain, or England, is an island, therefore its supplies could be easily cut-off, leading the population to eventually starve to death. Why can't it be invaded?

It's surrounded by water, which, to my knowledge, is a completely neutral force, meaning you're country is 360 degrees worth of invasion capability. Why can't it be invaded?

This is not WWII, we have more sophisticated weapons now, not to mention the use of drones, missiles, etc. etc. Why can't it be invaded?

Band of brothers is a fiction its like looking at the second world war theough the beer goggles of Call of duity

Hundreads of Maps, Electro-Targeting and Tracers which acually flash a big red light in the A-10 to tell Not to mention that a Challenger II (our main battle tank) looks NOTHING like a T-80 not to mention thier a different shape and size. Your men just got gun happy for the value of 8 million and lifes that we value. (and you can radio in)

360 invasion obviously you can't know much becuase you need beaches to ford to get into any country and we only have a few which would be viable for a large invaison all of which involve quite a steep climb. Not to mention that out navy would alredy be there hassaling any landing craft you could send

Also most people who are here to work only would have gone home at the outbreak of war or gone to a neighboring europian country for protection

also rationing has worked before and it can work again.

And no matter how meny men you have you MUST always care for the life of the individual and i fear the americans will never learn this.
and this is what you might confuse for "running away" Its called tatical retreat the idear being that if you don't send your men into a fight they can't win to get thier legs blown off they can't charge again take em back give them new equpiment and send them back again to the fight to win rather than die.

And your involvment in world war two is not only dubious but it was also lack luster

you didn't join until the very last minute and even then you refused to not charge the war debt to the other countrys when us almost bankrupt from the war calenced it without question.

The best you did was shave a few years off at best but the Nazi hiriaky was alredy shakey when england start its invasion.

 

[xChevelle24]

Nato command, Europe, Usa,Austria, Trident nuclear system, one of the best trained armys in the world which has won every conflict that it has been in since the F***kin romans,God, The Queen, The SAS, One of the best trained navys in the world, One of the most technologically advanced and best trained Airfoces, An entire nation who would fight to the death to protect it, Some of the tuffest sea crossing conditions in the world, Bad Weather, Some of the most famous generals in history and the stratigical heratige that it brings, One of the most innovative nations (we invented everything in the last 40 years and most of the modern battle tatics other than shock and awe which dosen't work for shit america two wars you havn't won vientnam and iraq), Stiff upper lip, The Scottish ( the only thing there really good at which is beating stuff up) , tea and ale

Nuff said

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

You can declair anything you like dosen't make it true

Flame war Ie he's going to napalm me

OK starting from WW2 which for arguments sake we wills say you were in (as little more than hired hands but nm) Look at your losses compaired to english and againin all the wars you have been in

England deploy small teams of effective units to capture objectives

Americans Run at them with hundreads of men whilst they get their legs blown off, you care as much for the individual solider as you do your bullets

IN the iraq war you suffered inordinate casulties becasue your porley lead
You either have the brains or eyesight of badgers when it comes to friendly fire

need i remind you we needed to paint the top of our tanks ORANGE just so your stupid A-10's woudln't shoot them i mean tell me how meny challenger tanks did iraqies have

"I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning," Where the fuck did you see that other than possilbe sharp or another 18th century reancment

And navy seals , ha you might as well call them the featch and carry brigades who drop lazer targeters and shoot everyone (including innocents)

You are forgetting to mention that the U.S. had so many more soldiers in WWII than the British did. Also, sure our army is retarded, because we have so many soldiers to spare we might as well just rush in. But with marines, paratroopers, etc. etc., we did no such thing. Band of Brothers and E-Z company is an excellent example of this. I think they even, yep, they did save about 150 British soldiers.

I won't even go into the Iraq war, that whole war was a mistake, and that line about the Iraq war and the line under it are so poorly worded I can't even understand them.

Friendly fire happens, it's part of war. When you are flying in a fucking plane, telling tanks apart might be a little challenging. It's not like you can radio in and ask them.

I was referring to the Japanese tactics during WWII. Even when they knew they would die, they would fight to the last man for their country, when Britain, US, Canada would all run away and try to regroup or what not.

Okay, maybe I shouldn't have been so bias in my opinion, but let me ask you this.

Great Britain, or England, is an island, therefore its supplies could be easily cut-off, leading the population to eventually starve to death. Why can't it be invaded?

It's surrounded by water, which, to my knowledge, is a completely neutral force, meaning you're country is 360 degrees worth of invasion capability. Why can't it be invaded?

This is not WWII, we have more sophisticated weapons now, not to mention the use of drones, missiles, etc. etc. Why can't it be invaded?

Band of brothers is a fiction its like looking at the second world war theough the beer goggles of Call of duity

Hundreads of Maps, Electro-Targeting and Tracers which acually flash a big red light in the A-10 to tell Not to mention that a Challenger II (our main battle tank) looks NOTHING like a T-80 not to mention thier a different shape and size. Your men just got gun happy for the value of 8 million and lifes that we value. (and you can radio in)

360 invasion obviously you can't know much becuase you need beaches to ford to get into any country and we only have a few which would be viable for a large invaison all of which involve quite a steep climb. Not to mention that out navy would alredy be there hassaling any landing craft you could send

Also most people who are here to work only would have gone home at the outbreak of war or gone to a neighboring europian country for protection

also rationing has worked before and it can work again.

And no matter how meny men you have you MUST always care for the life of the individual and i fear the americans will never learn this.
and this is what you might confuse for "running away" Its called tatical retreat the idear being that if you don't send your men into a fight they can't win to get thier legs blown off they can't charge again take em back give them new equpiment and send them back again to the fight to win rather than die.

And your involvment in world war two is not only dubious but it was also lack luster

you didn't join until the very last minute and even then you refused to not charge the war debt to the other countrys when us almost bankrupt from the war calenced it without question.

The best you did was shave a few years off at best but the Nazi hiriaky was alredy shakey when england start its invasion.

I'll just skip to the point here.

We entered the war in 1942, well, I guess VERY late 1942 to early 1943, because of pearl harbor. We entered the war right in the middle of it. The War was from 1939 - 1945, we waited 3-4 years to join with 3 years left to fight it. Germany was still very much a legit threat when we entered the war. Granted they lost stalingrad but they were making progress towards London, and if that fell then they could have surrounded the Russians, and then MAYBE, MAYBE, beat them.

All you see is that the Britons did everything and that you're bad ass and the biggest, toughest mother fuckers on the block. While I am not going to argue that you're not, beacuse Britain is not the biggest, baddest mother fuckers on the block, I won't say the U.S. is either.

Now going back up the line. Rationing? Seriously? Rationing? Yeah, see how long that lasts.

Your navy would stop about 14 countries from landing on your "beaches". Come on, lets be realistic. They might make some huge stand off and kill like hundreds of ships, but eventually they will be decimated by aircraft, ships, subs, etc. and we will have a clear path at your beaches. Oh, and have you ever heard of paratroopers?

Jesus fuck, this makes me want to see what WOULD happen if Britain turned out to be harboring terrorists, nuclear weapons, etc. That would be an interesting war.

 

[Sir_Puffybottom]

No because you attack at tea time or stop there supply of crumpets

 

[Keldon888]

England is very conquerable. With no outside aid it is only a matter of time before the lack of resources would starve the whole island out.

Germany was winning WW2 before America stepped in, and that was with all the support America could give without being an open part of the war. Britain was better skilled than the Nazi attackers but they were being worn down hard, even with some American resources they were very screwed. That's why it's considered damn near a miracle that the RAF pilots and their new radar systems held out like they did.

The reason the war swung so hard the other way once America stepped into the war was because of the industrial juggernaut that America is when pushed, no other nation could hope to match it.

And that was back before there was reliable long range rocket capabilities. It would be fairly easy to bomb the small island into submission with modern weaponry.

Honestly with modern weapons, every country is very vulnerable, but allegiances stop anything from happening ever.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

Might wanna do your homework on that one, it takes far more to get into the SAS than it does to become a Navy Seal.

Yes, but that is because the U.S has many specialized forces. Instead of one over-arcing one, there are things such as seals for the navy, recon marines for marines, rangers and green berets for the army.. We deal in highly specialized soldiers for each branch, instead of general skilled soldiers who though, are highly trained.

Yep so our SAS can deal with any situation that presents itself, always be prepared just read the amount of stuff they have to do just to be considered for selection

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A517664

Also not to be unfair to Americans but I feel that if the American army didn't have all there fancy technology then they'd be pretty average in terms of fighting ability compared to other countries armies, in terms of moral, training and fighting prowess ect. (like the Russians, Japanese, English ect, we've used some incrbidly stupid but brave tactics over the years.) of course with those armies attacking us we'd be pretty screwed.

The experience from previous U.S. wars led to the advancement of all of that fancy technology. Excellent training led to the concepts that developed the technology that we depend on, and tus we have become overly dependent on our technology (if that makes any sense). I would hardly say we are an average fighting force, but I will admit, the U.S. Army will recruit just about anyone nowadays. :/

And yes, I will concede that the SAS are pretty much supreme badasses. Although I hear they get along with the SEALS fairly well and operate in conjunction more and more often these days.

There will always be a need for cannon fodder.

That said, the U.S has a pretty good idea. Don't train the soldiers more if they are just going to be doing peace-keeping tasks in the middle east. If you are just going to be standing around wanking then why teach them how to kill a man 40 different ways?

If you want real training, you go up.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Nato command, Europe, Usa,Austria, Trident nuclear system, one of the best trained armys in the world which has won every conflict that it has been in since the F***kin romans,God, The Queen, The SAS, One of the best trained navys in the world, One of the most technologically advanced and best trained Airfoces, An entire nation who would fight to the death to protect it, Some of the tuffest sea crossing conditions in the world, Bad Weather, Some of the most famous generals in history and the stratigical heratige that it brings, One of the most innovative nations (we invented everything in the last 40 years and most of the modern battle tatics other than shock and awe which dosen't work for shit america two wars you havn't won vientnam and iraq), Stiff upper lip, The Scottish ( the only thing there really good at which is beating stuff up) , tea and ale

Nuff said

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

You can declair anything you like dosen't make it true

Flame war Ie he's going to napalm me

OK starting from WW2 which for arguments sake we wills say you were in (as little more than hired hands but nm) Look at your losses compaired to english and againin all the wars you have been in

England deploy small teams of effective units to capture objectives

Americans Run at them with hundreads of men whilst they get their legs blown off, you care as much for the individual solider as you do your bullets

IN the iraq war you suffered inordinate casulties becasue your porley lead
You either have the brains or eyesight of badgers when it comes to friendly fire

need i remind you we needed to paint the top of our tanks ORANGE just so your stupid A-10's woudln't shoot them i mean tell me how meny challenger tanks did iraqies have

"I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning," Where the fuck did you see that other than possilbe sharp or another 18th century reancment

And navy seals , ha you might as well call them the featch and carry brigades who drop lazer targeters and shoot everyone (including innocents)

You are forgetting to mention that the U.S. had so many more soldiers in WWII than the British did. Also, sure our army is retarded, because we have so many soldiers to spare we might as well just rush in. But with marines, paratroopers, etc. etc., we did no such thing. Band of Brothers and E-Z company is an excellent example of this. I think they even, yep, they did save about 150 British soldiers.

I won't even go into the Iraq war, that whole war was a mistake, and that line about the Iraq war and the line under it are so poorly worded I can't even understand them.

Friendly fire happens, it's part of war. When you are flying in a fucking plane, telling tanks apart might be a little challenging. It's not like you can radio in and ask them.

I was referring to the Japanese tactics during WWII. Even when they knew they would die, they would fight to the last man for their country, when Britain, US, Canada would all run away and try to regroup or what not.

Okay, maybe I shouldn't have been so bias in my opinion, but let me ask you this.

Great Britain, or England, is an island, therefore its supplies could be easily cut-off, leading the population to eventually starve to death. Why can't it be invaded?

It's surrounded by water, which, to my knowledge, is a completely neutral force, meaning you're country is 360 degrees worth of invasion capability. Why can't it be invaded?

This is not WWII, we have more sophisticated weapons now, not to mention the use of drones, missiles, etc. etc. Why can't it be invaded?

Band of brothers is a fiction its like looking at the second world war theough the beer goggles of Call of duity

Hundreads of Maps, Electro-Targeting and Tracers which acually flash a big red light in the A-10 to tell Not to mention that a Challenger II (our main battle tank) looks NOTHING like a T-80 not to mention thier a different shape and size. Your men just got gun happy for the value of 8 million and lifes that we value. (and you can radio in)

360 invasion obviously you can't know much becuase you need beaches to ford to get into any country and we only have a few which would be viable for a large invaison all of which involve quite a steep climb. Not to mention that out navy would alredy be there hassaling any landing craft you could send

Also most people who are here to work only would have gone home at the outbreak of war or gone to a neighboring europian country for protection

also rationing has worked before and it can work again.

And no matter how meny men you have you MUST always care for the life of the individual and i fear the americans will never learn this.
and this is what you might confuse for "running away" Its called tatical retreat the idear being that if you don't send your men into a fight they can't win to get thier legs blown off they can't charge again take em back give them new equpiment and send them back again to the fight to win rather than die.

And your involvment in world war two is not only dubious but it was also lack luster

you didn't join until the very last minute and even then you refused to not charge the war debt to the other countrys when us almost bankrupt from the war calenced it without question.

The best you did was shave a few years off at best but the Nazi hiriaky was alredy shakey when england start its invasion.

You do know that until very recently tanks had no outside contact what so ever?

2.) You do know that Britian and france were the cause of WW2 right? The U.S were telling you to shut up, but no. You dismissed us for being to young or whatever to know anything. Look what it got you.

 

[BlackHat]

Nato command, Europe, Usa,Austria, Trident nuclear system, one of the best trained armys in the world which has won every conflict that it has been in since the F***kin romans,God, The Queen, The SAS, One of the best trained navys in the world, One of the most technologically advanced and best trained Airfoces, An entire nation who would fight to the death to protect it, Some of the tuffest sea crossing conditions in the world, Bad Weather, Some of the most famous generals in history and the stratigical heratige that it brings, One of the most innovative nations (we invented everything in the last 40 years and most of the modern battle tatics other than shock and awe which dosen't work for shit america two wars you havn't won vientnam and iraq), Stiff upper lip, The Scottish ( the only thing there really good at which is beating stuff up) , tea and ale

Nuff said

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

You can declair anything you like dosen't make it true

Flame war Ie he's going to napalm me

OK starting from WW2 which for arguments sake we wills say you were in (as little more than hired hands but nm) Look at your losses compaired to english and againin all the wars you have been in

England deploy small teams of effective units to capture objectives

Americans Run at them with hundreads of men whilst they get their legs blown off, you care as much for the individual solider as you do your bullets

IN the iraq war you suffered inordinate casulties becasue your porley lead
You either have the brains or eyesight of badgers when it comes to friendly fire

need i remind you we needed to paint the top of our tanks ORANGE just so your stupid A-10's woudln't shoot them i mean tell me how meny challenger tanks did iraqies have

"I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning," Where the fuck did you see that other than possilbe sharp or another 18th century reancment

And navy seals , ha you might as well call them the featch and carry brigades who drop lazer targeters and shoot everyone (including innocents)

You are forgetting to mention that the U.S. had so many more soldiers in WWII than the British did. Also, sure our army is retarded, because we have so many soldiers to spare we might as well just rush in. But with marines, paratroopers, etc. etc., we did no such thing. Band of Brothers and E-Z company is an excellent example of this. I think they even, yep, they did save about 150 British soldiers.

I won't even go into the Iraq war, that whole war was a mistake, and that line about the Iraq war and the line under it are so poorly worded I can't even understand them.

Friendly fire happens, it's part of war. When you are flying in a fucking plane, telling tanks apart might be a little challenging. It's not like you can radio in and ask them.

I was referring to the Japanese tactics during WWII. Even when they knew they would die, they would fight to the last man for their country, when Britain, US, Canada would all run away and try to regroup or what not.

Okay, maybe I shouldn't have been so bias in my opinion, but let me ask you this.

Great Britain, or England, is an island, therefore its supplies could be easily cut-off, leading the population to eventually starve to death. Why can't it be invaded?

It's surrounded by water, which, to my knowledge, is a completely neutral force, meaning you're country is 360 degrees worth of invasion capability. Why can't it be invaded?

This is not WWII, we have more sophisticated weapons now, not to mention the use of drones, missiles, etc. etc. Why can't it be invaded?

Band of brothers is a fiction its like looking at the second world war theough the beer goggles of Call of duity

Hundreads of Maps, Electro-Targeting and Tracers which acually flash a big red light in the A-10 to tell Not to mention that a Challenger II (our main battle tank) looks NOTHING like a T-80 not to mention thier a different shape and size. Your men just got gun happy for the value of 8 million and lifes that we value. (and you can radio in)

360 invasion obviously you can't know much becuase you need beaches to ford to get into any country and we only have a few which would be viable for a large invaison all of which involve quite a steep climb. Not to mention that out navy would alredy be there hassaling any landing craft you could send

Also most people who are here to work only would have gone home at the outbreak of war or gone to a neighboring europian country for protection

also rationing has worked before and it can work again.

And no matter how meny men you have you MUST always care for the life of the individual and i fear the americans will never learn this.
and this is what you might confuse for "running away" Its called tatical retreat the idear being that if you don't send your men into a fight they can't win to get thier legs blown off they can't charge again take em back give them new equpiment and send them back again to the fight to win rather than die.

And your involvment in world war two is not only dubious but it was also lack luster

you didn't join until the very last minute and even then you refused to not charge the war debt to the other countrys when us almost bankrupt from the war calenced it without question.

The best you did was shave a few years off at best but the Nazi hiriaky was alredy shakey when england start its invasion.

I'll just skip to the point here.

We entered the war in 1942, well, I guess VERY late 1942 to early 1943, because of pearl harbor. We entered the war right in the middle of it. The War was from 1939 - 1945, we waited 3-4 years to join with 3 years left to fight it. Germany was still very much a legit threat when we entered the war. Granted they lost stalingrad but they were making progress towards London, and if that fell then they could have surrounded the Russians, and then MAYBE, MAYBE, beat them.

All you see is that the Britons did everything and that you're bad ass and the biggest, toughest mother fuckers on the block. While I am not going to argue that you're not, beacuse Britain is not the biggest, baddest mother fuckers on the block, I won't say the U.S. is either.

Now going back up the line. Rationing? Seriously? Rationing? Yeah, see how long that lasts.

Your navy would stop about 14 countries from landing on your "beaches". Come on, lets be realistic. They might make some huge stand off and kill like hundreds of ships, but eventually they will be decimated by aircraft, ships, subs, etc. and we will have a clear path at your beaches. Oh, and have you ever heard of paratroopers?

Jesus fuck, this makes me want to see what WOULD happen if Britain turned out to be harboring terrorists, nuclear weapons, etc. That would be an interesting war.

ok, we do have a terrorist problem but every country has an insergency problem, and its very very small just like it is in america

sceondly we do have nuclear wepons its called trident remeber we worked on it together

yeah rationing a bit silly ok but then we would get food drops from europe so on so forth you can't deny that if you start a war with engalnd you start a war with the world

I would say yes the nazi's were still obviously a threat but the cracks where starting to form in hitlers party and governance with vital supplys and resoreses not being destibuted

hilter was almost defeated in africa meaning his oil supllys where starting to run dry which ment that alot of his tank brigades just couldn't work which gave the nazi's alot of their strenghts and your right the russians were knocking at the door,

also we would never go to war and tbh i think that whilst i question american battle tatics they are so different from english battle tatics a dam sight more costly and less effective but you get the job done partially and your ability to claim that your not super awusume means taht i also am not goign to claim were super awusume

it think this has runits corse a bit but lets hope were never generals on either side of the tabel because you might win but with your tatics your goin gto have the living shit kicked outta you first XD

 

[BlackHat]

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[BlackHat]

Nato command, Europe, Usa,Austria, Trident nuclear system, one of the best trained armys in the world which has won every conflict that it has been in since the F***kin romans,God, The Queen, The SAS, One of the best trained navys in the world, One of the most technologically advanced and best trained Airfoces, An entire nation who would fight to the death to protect it, Some of the tuffest sea crossing conditions in the world, Bad Weather, Some of the most famous generals in history and the stratigical heratige that it brings, One of the most innovative nations (we invented everything in the last 40 years and most of the modern battle tatics other than shock and awe which dosen't work for shit america two wars you havn't won vientnam and iraq), Stiff upper lip, The Scottish ( the only thing there really good at which is beating stuff up) , tea and ale

Nuff said

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

You can declair anything you like dosen't make it true

Flame war Ie he's going to napalm me

OK starting from WW2 which for arguments sake we wills say you were in (as little more than hired hands but nm) Look at your losses compaired to english and againin all the wars you have been in

England deploy small teams of effective units to capture objectives

Americans Run at them with hundreads of men whilst they get their legs blown off, you care as much for the individual solider as you do your bullets

IN the iraq war you suffered inordinate casulties becasue your porley lead
You either have the brains or eyesight of badgers when it comes to friendly fire

need i remind you we needed to paint the top of our tanks ORANGE just so your stupid A-10's woudln't shoot them i mean tell me how meny challenger tanks did iraqies have

"I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning," Where the fuck did you see that other than possilbe sharp or another 18th century reancment

And navy seals , ha you might as well call them the featch and carry brigades who drop lazer targeters and shoot everyone (including innocents)

You are forgetting to mention that the U.S. had so many more soldiers in WWII than the British did. Also, sure our army is retarded, because we have so many soldiers to spare we might as well just rush in. But with marines, paratroopers, etc. etc., we did no such thing. Band of Brothers and E-Z company is an excellent example of this. I think they even, yep, they did save about 150 British soldiers.

I won't even go into the Iraq war, that whole war was a mistake, and that line about the Iraq war and the line under it are so poorly worded I can't even understand them.

Friendly fire happens, it's part of war. When you are flying in a fucking plane, telling tanks apart might be a little challenging. It's not like you can radio in and ask them.

I was referring to the Japanese tactics during WWII. Even when they knew they would die, they would fight to the last man for their country, when Britain, US, Canada would all run away and try to regroup or what not.

Okay, maybe I shouldn't have been so bias in my opinion, but let me ask you this.

Great Britain, or England, is an island, therefore its supplies could be easily cut-off, leading the population to eventually starve to death. Why can't it be invaded?

It's surrounded by water, which, to my knowledge, is a completely neutral force, meaning you're country is 360 degrees worth of invasion capability. Why can't it be invaded?

This is not WWII, we have more sophisticated weapons now, not to mention the use of drones, missiles, etc. etc. Why can't it be invaded?

Band of brothers is a fiction its like looking at the second world war theough the beer goggles of Call of duity

Hundreads of Maps, Electro-Targeting and Tracers which acually flash a big red light in the A-10 to tell Not to mention that a Challenger II (our main battle tank) looks NOTHING like a T-80 not to mention thier a different shape and size. Your men just got gun happy for the value of 8 million and lifes that we value. (and you can radio in)

360 invasion obviously you can't know much becuase you need beaches to ford to get into any country and we only have a few which would be viable for a large invaison all of which involve quite a steep climb. Not to mention that out navy would alredy be there hassaling any landing craft you could send

Also most people who are here to work only would have gone home at the outbreak of war or gone to a neighboring europian country for protection

also rationing has worked before and it can work again.

And no matter how meny men you have you MUST always care for the life of the individual and i fear the americans will never learn this.
and this is what you might confuse for "running away" Its called tatical retreat the idear being that if you don't send your men into a fight they can't win to get thier legs blown off they can't charge again take em back give them new equpiment and send them back again to the fight to win rather than die.

And your involvment in world war two is not only dubious but it was also lack luster

you didn't join until the very last minute and even then you refused to not charge the war debt to the other countrys when us almost bankrupt from the war calenced it without question.

The best you did was shave a few years off at best but the Nazi hiriaky was alredy shakey when england start its invasion.

You do know that until very recently tanks had no outside contact what so ever?

2.) You do know that Britian and france were the cause of WW2 right? The U.S were telling you to shut up, but no. You dismissed us for being to young or whatever to know anything. Look what it got you.

are you absoluilty fucking retarted this is the stupidest neo-nazi comment i have ever seen in my entire fucking life

i would really like to listen to your fantasty of how france and Britian started the second world war but i fear indulging you will cause my connective tissue in my brain to pack its bags and leave causing my brain to melt into a gooey nazi jizz like yours.

But beacause i'm feeling generious ill give you a quick history lesson

Nazi party starts in germany
Nazi party loses a few elections but has alot of support
Nazi supports bomards von papen of germany and in 1933 hilter rises to power as challencer
Italy invades ethopia
1938 Germany annexes austria engalnd dosen't do anything because its not worth a fight about it as does france and around the same time the league of nations collapses
Germany also then annexes a ethicnally german part of the now chec republic
France and Britain garuentee protection for poland, greece and romania and warn germany not to invade theses countrys which was an extetion of treatys that allredy exsisted
September 1 1939 act of aggretion by invading poland we get pissed off and move trips into main land france

now

at which point did WE start a war or was hilter just ok to annex what he wanted and invade where he wanted

and at which point did america tell us not to get involved... aemerica was even still supplying steel and iron to japan and germany till 1941 which in the same year you were attacked at perl harbor

also the first tank from world war one the Mark I was equpited with two pidgeons to allow commuications and by the Mark V there was radio i belive

 

[xChevelle24]

Nato command, Europe, Usa,Austria, Trident nuclear system, one of the best trained armys in the world which has won every conflict that it has been in since the F***kin romans,God, The Queen, The SAS, One of the best trained navys in the world, One of the most technologically advanced and best trained Airfoces, An entire nation who would fight to the death to protect it, Some of the tuffest sea crossing conditions in the world, Bad Weather, Some of the most famous generals in history and the stratigical heratige that it brings, One of the most innovative nations (we invented everything in the last 40 years and most of the modern battle tatics other than shock and awe which dosen't work for shit america two wars you havn't won vientnam and iraq), Stiff upper lip, The Scottish ( the only thing there really good at which is beating stuff up) , tea and ale

Nuff said

Not to start a flame war, but Navy Seals are better than the SAS. The U.S. airforce is better than yours. The U.S. Army is of larger force and also better trained. I could go on and on but that just invites a flame war. Oh, and when I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning, like, say the Japanese did in WWII, then you can that you would die for your country. Oh, and in case you didn't know, we declared Victory in Iraq over 4 years ago.

You can declair anything you like dosen't make it true

Flame war Ie he's going to napalm me

OK starting from WW2 which for arguments sake we wills say you were in (as little more than hired hands but nm) Look at your losses compaired to english and againin all the wars you have been in

England deploy small teams of effective units to capture objectives

Americans Run at them with hundreads of men whilst they get their legs blown off, you care as much for the individual solider as you do your bullets

IN the iraq war you suffered inordinate casulties becasue your porley lead
You either have the brains or eyesight of badgers when it comes to friendly fire

need i remind you we needed to paint the top of our tanks ORANGE just so your stupid A-10's woudln't shoot them i mean tell me how meny challenger tanks did iraqies have

"I see British soldiers baynet charging companies of soldiers when they stand no chance of winning," Where the fuck did you see that other than possilbe sharp or another 18th century reancment

And navy seals , ha you might as well call them the featch and carry brigades who drop lazer targeters and shoot everyone (including innocents)

You are forgetting to mention that the U.S. had so many more soldiers in WWII than the British did. Also, sure our army is retarded, because we have so many soldiers to spare we might as well just rush in. But with marines, paratroopers, etc. etc., we did no such thing. Band of Brothers and E-Z company is an excellent example of this. I think they even, yep, they did save about 150 British soldiers.

I won't even go into the Iraq war, that whole war was a mistake, and that line about the Iraq war and the line under it are so poorly worded I can't even understand them.

Friendly fire happens, it's part of war. When you are flying in a fucking plane, telling tanks apart might be a little challenging. It's not like you can radio in and ask them.

I was referring to the Japanese tactics during WWII. Even when they knew they would die, they would fight to the last man for their country, when Britain, US, Canada would all run away and try to regroup or what not.

Okay, maybe I shouldn't have been so bias in my opinion, but let me ask you this.

Great Britain, or England, is an island, therefore its supplies could be easily cut-off, leading the population to eventually starve to death. Why can't it be invaded?

It's surrounded by water, which, to my knowledge, is a completely neutral force, meaning you're country is 360 degrees worth of invasion capability. Why can't it be invaded?

This is not WWII, we have more sophisticated weapons now, not to mention the use of drones, missiles, etc. etc. Why can't it be invaded?

Band of brothers is a fiction its like looking at the second world war theough the beer goggles of Call of duity

Hundreads of Maps, Electro-Targeting and Tracers which acually flash a big red light in the A-10 to tell Not to mention that a Challenger II (our main battle tank) looks NOTHING like a T-80 not to mention thier a different shape and size. Your men just got gun happy for the value of 8 million and lifes that we value. (and you can radio in)

360 invasion obviously you can't know much becuase you need beaches to ford to get into any country and we only have a few which would be viable for a large invaison all of which involve quite a steep climb. Not to mention that out navy would alredy be there hassaling any landing craft you could send

Also most people who are here to work only would have gone home at the outbreak of war or gone to a neighboring europian country for protection

also rationing has worked before and it can work again.

And no matter how meny men you have you MUST always care for the life of the individual and i fear the americans will never learn this.
and this is what you might confuse for "running away" Its called tatical retreat the idear being that if you don't send your men into a fight they can't win to get thier legs blown off they can't charge again take em back give them new equpiment and send them back again to the fight to win rather than die.

And your involvment in world war two is not only dubious but it was also lack luster

you didn't join until the very last minute and even then you refused to not charge the war debt to the other countrys when us almost bankrupt from the war calenced it without question.

The best you did was shave a few years off at best but the Nazi hiriaky was alredy shakey when england start its invasion.

I'll just skip to the point here.

We entered the war in 1942, well, I guess VERY late 1942 to early 1943, because of pearl harbor. We entered the war right in the middle of it. The War was from 1939 - 1945, we waited 3-4 years to join with 3 years left to fight it. Germany was still very much a legit threat when we entered the war. Granted they lost stalingrad but they were making progress towards London, and if that fell then they could have surrounded the Russians, and then MAYBE, MAYBE, beat them.

All you see is that the Britons did everything and that you're bad ass and the biggest, toughest mother fuckers on the block. While I am not going to argue that you're not, beacuse Britain is not the biggest, baddest mother fuckers on the block, I won't say the U.S. is either.

Now going back up the line. Rationing? Seriously? Rationing? Yeah, see how long that lasts.

Your navy would stop about 14 countries from landing on your "beaches". Come on, lets be realistic. They might make some huge stand off and kill like hundreds of ships, but eventually they will be decimated by aircraft, ships, subs, etc. and we will have a clear path at your beaches. Oh, and have you ever heard of paratroopers?

Jesus fuck, this makes me want to see what WOULD happen if Britain turned out to be harboring terrorists, nuclear weapons, etc. That would be an interesting war.

ok, we do have a terrorist problem but every country has an insergency problem, and its very very small just like it is in america

sceondly we do have nuclear wepons its called trident remeber we worked on it together

yeah rationing a bit silly ok but then we would get food drops from europe so on so forth you can't deny that if you start a war with engalnd you start a war with the world

I would say yes the nazi's were still obviously a threat but the cracks where starting to form in hitlers party and governance with vital supplys and resoreses not being destibuted

hilter was almost defeated in africa meaning his oil supllys where starting to run dry which ment that alot of his tank brigades just couldn't work which gave the nazi's alot of their strenghts and your right the russians were knocking at the door,

also we would never go to war and tbh i think that whilst i question american battle tatics they are so different from english battle tatics a dam sight more costly and less effective but you get the job done partially and your ability to claim that your not super awusume means taht i also am not goign to claim were super awusume

it think this has runits corse a bit but lets hope were never generals on either side of the tabel because you might win but with your tatics your goin gto have the living shit kicked outta you first XD

1.) The OP stated that what would happen if England went rogue and started a war with all the major alliances. That, meaning that England would be by itself on it's island against the world. Not having any allies like you state above.

2.) Regarding Hitler almost being defeated in Africa. Yes, that may be true but, the Americans were almost defeated at Bastogne, but we held our ground, pushed through and pushed all the way to Germany and took it. The Russians were almost defeated at Stalingrad, but they held out, fought back and eventually pushed to Germany. The same could have been said for Germany.

3.) Your second to last paragraph is so poorly worded I think a part of me just died. But yes, England has started wars before, and if not, I don't doubt that they have been a major factor in them. What American battle tactics are you talking about? It's not like our military teaches us to rush at everything we see. I've heard countless stories about American's saving the lives of Britains in WWII, and visa versa.

4.) Regarding your final post. Well, if I was a general I'm sure I wouldn't have the shit kicked out of me by you, if that's what you're referring to. My strategy would be to eliminate the English navy, then completely cut off your resources, and when you start running short, we do the D-Day strategy, in which we drop paratroopers behind enemy lines whilst invading the beaches while the navy provides cover fire. All while posting numerous ships along the Pacific and Atlantic coast to prevent nuclear strikes. Of course, this is very generalized and not in detail at all, but it would be a basic outline.

 

[keyton777]

Can The UK be invaded?
History says: No

because you have literally nothing useful on your island (near as i can tell)

I'm Irish...

how the bloody hell am i supposed to know that?

Oh jeez, I dont know... Check his profile? XD

.....so your saying to actually read everyones profile?
yeah, no, im not gonna bother with that, i dont know him, he never mentioned he was irish, so how am i supposed to know, i dont read everyones profile b4 i quote them, dont much see the point

 

[Tyler_Durden]

yes but it would be dificult

1. powerful military
without number differences they are damn near better than the USA

2. coastline
in some places coastal cliffs are massive. it would be an all day suck to scale a coastal cliff.

3. allies
there is no way all the countries are gonna band together to take down britain.
as long as britain has its allies they are un-invadable.