Poll: Can suicide be rational?
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Ok, I don't mind admitting that on my 16th birthday i tried to take my own life. No it wasn't a case of teenage angst, i'm just recovering from severe depression & anxiety.
At the time, it was fucking priceless, i die therefore i don't have to drag down my family or friends or continue my pathetic existance.
But the truth is, anyone who kills themselfs are selfish to a point, they may never understand the pain & grief they would cause their family & friends. I knew a guy at college who hung himself, and i went to his funeral. I saw the actualy physical torment of his mother.
So is it rational? For me and perhaps my old friend (R.I.P) no, but for people in delicate circumstances, maybe
At the time, it was fucking priceless, i die therefore i don't have to drag down my family or friends or continue my pathetic existance.
But the truth is, anyone who kills themselfs are selfish to a point, they may never understand the pain & grief they would cause their family & friends. I knew a guy at college who hung himself, and i went to his funeral. I saw the actualy physical torment of his mother.
So is it rational? For me and perhaps my old friend (R.I.P) no, but for people in delicate circumstances, maybe
suicide is never a rational act.
for a person to think "my life sucks and will never get better" is irrational in and of it's self. that thought forgets that the only constant in this world is change, both good and bad.
killing your self eliminates any and all chances for there lives to improve, not a rational act my any standard.
and on Euthanasia, that act is no better the suicide either. human beings are meant to live for a certain time and then die, trying to shorten or lethgen out that cycle by any extreme amount is wrong.
just because your life is hard doesn't mean you have the right to kill ur self. if you are able to read this post, it could be worse.
for a person to think "my life sucks and will never get better" is irrational in and of it's self. that thought forgets that the only constant in this world is change, both good and bad.
killing your self eliminates any and all chances for there lives to improve, not a rational act my any standard.
and on Euthanasia, that act is no better the suicide either. human beings are meant to live for a certain time and then die, trying to shorten or lethgen out that cycle by any extreme amount is wrong.
just because your life is hard doesn't mean you have the right to kill ur self. if you are able to read this post, it could be worse.
But who decides we have the right?t3h br0th3r said:
People are control freaks, you see it everyday people controlling their lives, and their bodys. Then you see extreme cases like not eating and as such.
When you're depressed, you can't see things in a long term view, there is no grey area it's either black or white. Good or Bad. You have thoughts swirling around your head in an endless vicous circle and you convince yourself you're be like this forever.
On a lighter note, welcome to the Escapist
I see it as rational in the form of euthinasia. I mean, if your disease is terminal, and your just going to sit there in a bed for a few months would you rather die shortly or sit there?
Try saying that when you have to watch a family member, or god forbid someone else you care about, painfully die over the course of a few weeks. All I can say is if an animal were in that much pain, they'd do the humane thing and put it down.t3h br0th3r said:
MaxTheReaper said:
Add 80 years to person.
Rational Person: "My body constantly hurts and I shit myself constantly. My life is miserable, I can't leave the house and have to take 30 pills to stay alive. I'm tired of living."
Solution: "Let me go to my doctor and get a safe prescription for some pills that will end my life without any pain, allowing me to die with dignity rather than feel my body grow worse and watch my loved ones pity me."
Insane Person: "PUPPIE CAT!!!! SAUSAGE PUPPY CAT!!!!!"
Solution: "SPOOOOOOOONNNNNNN!!!!!"
As with many moral issues each situation is different. When dealing with suicide we tend to think of the selfish depressed type who ends their life because things don't go their way. There are a lot of other cases which are defined as suicide, but fall more in the moral grounds of euthanasia. In cases where there is a lot of constant physical and mental pain, and also relying on other people for the basic of care, I can understand why people would want to end their lives, as a release from a form of non-existence and also to lift their carers of the burden.
Suicide seems incredibly stupid unless you dying of a terminal disease. But aside from that I can't see any reason for suicide.
Not being absolutes, of course there are times when suicide can be rational. That said, beyond euthanasia and assisted suicide where it's generally accepted that the person in question does have a valid reason for doing so, it's not really all that rational.
However...I've got this crazy idea in my head, real weird thought, don't know how I came to it, that my body is, wait for it, my own! And that if I so choose to live or end it it will be my choice and not because I was coerced by either those for or against it.
And really, that's not against the people who think either suicide is acceptable or who think it's bad, they're entitled to think as they wish of course, no bother there. What really kicks me in the gut, is that for whatever reason, at some point in time whether through injury or otherwise, that I should be -denied- death, and physically prevented from doing so by some...well, you know I have plenty of words for such people, but I won't speak them here.
Selfish is essentially correct. There's nothing more self-centered than the killing of oneself. I just don't agree with the negative attitude levelled toward it.
However...I've got this crazy idea in my head, real weird thought, don't know how I came to it, that my body is, wait for it, my own! And that if I so choose to live or end it it will be my choice and not because I was coerced by either those for or against it.
And really, that's not against the people who think either suicide is acceptable or who think it's bad, they're entitled to think as they wish of course, no bother there. What really kicks me in the gut, is that for whatever reason, at some point in time whether through injury or otherwise, that I should be -denied- death, and physically prevented from doing so by some...well, you know I have plenty of words for such people, but I won't speak them here.
Selfish is essentially correct. There's nothing more self-centered than the killing of oneself. I just don't agree with the negative attitude levelled toward it.