Poll: Can you drive with manual transmission?

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Cowabungaa

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I have yet to get my drivers license, but when I will get it I will take my driving lessons in manual car.
 

Nutcase

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Due to the advances in automatic transmission tech, I don't believe you get much functional benefit out of a manual anymore, unless the car is quite small and/or low on power. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if autos actually gave better mileage and were faster than manuals in the hands of the majority of drivers, because you can't screw up as bad with them.

I prefer manual transmission simply because it's more fun. Learned to drive on a heavy RWD car with something like 60/40 balance, manual trans, no ABS brakes and naturally no traction control. We have snow and ice six months a year. I had a couple of close calls (most of them on steep ice-covered hills), but never had an accident.
 

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SakSak said:
paypuh said:
I was trying to agree with you, but you seem to want to one-up me for some reason.
Funny way of showing that. To me it looked like you were trying make excuses. I'm not trying to one-up you, I'm trying to tell the truth of the situation and it seemed like you didn't know it.
Recently, yes, European cars started building cars that have advanced collision systems and still be efficient vehicles. Before the 90s, that wasn't the case. In America, we all know the bigger vehicle wins. Bigger means heavier, and heavier means bad gas milage.

So I do agree with you, but I am also looking beyond just this decade. As long as vehicles pass emission testing in certain states, there was no reason to raise the efficency when gas was only $0.80 or less a gallon. That's why General Motors is failing.
 

Wagner138

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It seems perfectly normal to me, but I ended up teaching my American friend to drive a manual when she hired a car cuz bizzarely, you had to be 25 to hire an auto... She did a test in a manual so legally, she could drive one. Just never did!
 

Mongodyr

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Of course. I like the extra control it gives me over the car. The only times I would consider changing to an automatic was If I was stuck in tight traffic.
 

TwistedEllipses

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British - Manual.

I kind of wish I had an automatic, but that's only because the car I was learning on resited going into 3rd a lot...
 

DJShire

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Learned on a 2000 Honda Accord several years ago, I now own a manual 1992 Mazda Miata and will be getting a manual Subaru sometime within the next month
 

Zacharine

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paypuh said:
SakSak said:
paypuh said:
I was trying to agree with you, but you seem to want to one-up me for some reason.
Funny way of showing that. To me it looked like you were trying make excuses. I'm not trying to one-up you, I'm trying to tell the truth of the situation and it seemed like you didn't know it.
Recently, yes, European cars started building cars that have advanced collision systems and still be efficient vehicles. Before the 90s, that wasn't the case. In America, we all know the bigger vehicle wins. Bigger means heavier, and heavier means bad gas milage.

So I do agree with you, but I am also looking beyond just this decade. As long as vehicles pass emission testing in certain states, there was no reason to raise the efficency when gas was only $0.80 or less a gallon. That's why General Motors is failing.
True. And that is the major part of the problem: America has had way too cheap fuel for far too long. There has been no economic force pushing for diesel engines or higher fuel efficiency or lowered weight/retained safety. And as you said, a few decades back the situation regarding safety would have been different. But we are looking at the current day.
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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scumofsociety said:
Gruthar said:
I don't think it's quite that simple. I think it has more to do with how roads are typically laid out in the US. Americans in general do quite of bit of driving, thanks to sprawl. Most of that driving is stop-and-go driving, in traffic, from stoplight to stoplight. Driving with a manual transmission can get old real fast when you're crawling along from light to light in a straight line.
..and of course Europe is nothing but empty, open country roads.
well just like america, other countries have cities and then have long open roads...

so i really don't think that applies. i think if you lived in the city anywhere, where there's lots of stop and go traffic, an automatic would be far more convenient.

and btw i sometimes do my makeup when i drive... and talk on the phone... and text... and yet the only time i've ever had an accident was when some idiot woman yes, i am sexist to my own kind sometimes, decided to pull across a three lane road and stop. and not move. at all. so yeah, i hit her. at least i didn't go through a bank of america parking lot like the woman driving a van next to me did. /:
 

Abedeus

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Manual is the basic transmission in Europe.

While I'm still a year away from getting my driving license, I know how to drive using the manual transmission, up to the 3rd gear (well, it's been a while since I drived last time).
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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Nutcase said:
I prefer manual transmission simply because it's more fun. Learned to drive on a heavy RWD car with something like 60/40 balance, manual trans, no ABS brakes and naturally no traction control. We have snow and ice six months a year. I had a couple of close calls (most of them on steep ice-covered hills), but never had an accident.
my car weighs over 4000 pounds. and is most definitely RWD. :D she skids with the slightest touch of the gas when the roads are wet. good times.
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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Wyatt said:
scumofsociety said:
Wyatt said:
yeah? well if it wasnt for our major firms building tanks 60 years ago you all would be speaking German today :p


(Jesus dont spam quote me, its a friggen joke)
Awesome! We'd have those cool uniforms and... er, I mean:

Well if it wasn't for us colonising the East coast you'd be FRENCH! HA! Beat that! :p

(I was well aware of that from first comment, the ":p" did clue me in, although I suppose you are writing that for the benefit of others)

you got me, i quit *snicker* id MUCH rather be German than French.

and yeah it was more or less for others, i had like 3 or 4 replys of 'DEWD Euro cars RULEEE!!11!!' to my first comment.

even had a PM from some nitwit giving me all the reason that the Euro car makers will take over the world and free us oppressed Americans from the evil Big 3 ............ eventualy ..... sometime in the next 2,000 years anyhow.
can't beat american muscle for that delicious loud ass grumble that real cars make. :D
 

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Wyatt said:
even had a PM from some nitwit giving me all the reason that the Euro car makers will take over the world and free us oppressed Americans from the evil Big 3 ............ eventualy ..... sometime in the next 2,000 years anyhow.
Is that with or without taxpayer bailouts? :)

Personally I'd keep an eye on the Japanese.
 

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la-le-lu-li-lo said:
scumofsociety said:
Gruthar said:
I don't think it's quite that simple. I think it has more to do with how roads are typically laid out in the US. Americans in general do quite of bit of driving, thanks to sprawl. Most of that driving is stop-and-go driving, in traffic, from stoplight to stoplight. Driving with a manual transmission can get old real fast when you're crawling along from light to light in a straight line.
..and of course Europe is nothing but empty, open country roads.
well just like america, other countries have cities and then have long open roads...

so i really don't think that applies. i think if you lived in the city anywhere, where there's lots of stop and go traffic, an automatic would be far more convenient.
Well yes, of course...my point was there is a fuck of a lot of stop start traffic in Europe, probably just as much as the US, so that doesn't necessarily explain why automatic is preferred in the US but manual is preferred in Europe...perhaps you just weren't catching the slightly sarcastic tone of my statement. What I meant by that was 'we (Europe) are very urbanised and densely pupulated with an overcrowded road network'.
 

la-le-lu-li-lo

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scumofsociety said:
Well yes, of course...my point was there is a fuck of a lot of stop start traffic in Europe, probably just as much as the US, so that doesn't necessarily explain why automatic is preferred in the US but manual is preferred in Europe...perhaps you just weren't catching the slightly sarcastic tone of my statement. What I meant by that was 'we are very urbanised and densly pupulated with an overcrowded road network'.
perhaps not, as it can sometimes be difficult without the inflection of voice to gauge it by.

so i'll go back to my original statement, americans are lazy. most people i know like automatic because it's 'easier'. and generally don't have much more reasoning behind it than that. maybe i just hang out with lazy people. :D