Poll: Chicken or the Egg?

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Pyotr Romanov

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Egg, Evolution, Atheist. Thank you.

Only problem I've got with this is From when do you count it as a chicken? Evolution is so damn slow, every new bird hatched would be a little more chicken-ish, but the not-chicken is so unbelievably chicken-ish, why not just call it a chicken? It's quite impossible to determine exactly when it became a chicken...
 

Robert632

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Samcanuck said:
Now that you've answered...the point of my question. Is this question not the question of ones personal belief on Evolution vs creationism.

It's simple...chicken comes first and wasn't born from an egg. God put it here. You believe creationism governs life.

Egg comes first.....That egg is the first evolved chicken. When this hatches, the first chicken will have entered the world. (or the first chicken zygote if you must)

Let's just say 'I don't know' goes to Agnostics and Athiests.

So what did you put? Be honest, does it follow your religious beliefs?

were you watching the dirty jobs marathon on discovery lasr night?

as i belive in eveloution, i do belive the egg comes first as well.
 

DazZ.

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Depends if you're calling it a chickens egg or not. If not then the egg defiantly came first, if you're being picky about the type of egg then it depends on if you class the chickens egg to be the first egg to hatch a chicken, or the first egg laid by a chicken.

If you're classing it as the latter then you must believe that chicken wasn't hatched from an egg and just appeared, I don't agree with you so in all cases in point, I'm calling the egg came first.
 

Simriel

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Ah but you forget the more important question, What came first, the chicken or the noodles?

And also: What came first, me or my girlfriend.
 

Aunel

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Kinguendo said:
Egg... Why? Because no one ever specifies that it is a chickens egg.

EDIT: I am eating Ferero Rochets right now, I just felt you might like to know... Mmmmm, tasty.
I am glad I know,

and that it wasn't a chickens egg, that was my idea :(
 

bluepilot

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I don`t know...they both taste good.

Fried chicken, mmm.

I want to go with the egg because I believe in intelligent design followed by evolution, that evolution was the means, not the how. I think that both ideals can co-exist.

So, the egg came first because of the dinasaurs, which I a pretty sure existed before chickens, but probably do not taste as good. Maybe that is why they died out. Humans only cultivate animals that taste good.

It is kind of ironic that being tasty seems to lend an evolutionary advantage when eaten by humans.
 

Dorian

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Seeing as how chickens aren't born in live births, I'm somewhere between 99.9% and 100% positive it's the egg.

Either that, or a wizard did it.
 

manaman

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dietpeachsnapple said:
This did NOT need to be rooted in the creationism vs evolution debate.

Both could go either way given the lines of logic provided.
No they cant. Creationism involves a belief in a pretty much literal interpretation of the creation story in Genesis. That is the dictionary definition.

You can still believe in a god that created the universe and sat back and watched for 12 billion years as life slowly evolved into the end goal, humanity. But that is not creationism.
omega 616 said:
manaman said:
Icecoldcynic said:
If we're talking about any kind of egg generally, then the egg came first, but no other animal other than a chicken would lay a chicken egg.
Actually it would. Evolution is the reason the egg came first.
I only just woke up so I am a little groggy but if a single cell evolved, I imagine, it would be like a frog cell, it goes from a single cell to a tadpole then grows legs.

I can't see a single cell growing into an egg first, wouldn't it evolve into the creature first, in this case a chick, then grow into a chicken which lays an egg, starting the cycle.

It just seems more likely than it starting from the very start with a shell, then breaking out of it.
You should read a bit more about this, (Edit: I mean the entire first two pages, this was responded to and rebutted multiple times) but the gist is that there seem to be two camps. One believe that the egg is inherently the egg of the proto-chicken and not a chicken. The other agrees that while the egg was laid from the proto-chicken it is in fact a chicken egg because the embryo (yes I know this is a developed fetus I just use the term to simplify things) inside the egg would in fact be a chicken. Evolution is an ongoing process, that continues to this day, animals are not magically born from one species and become another, then stay stagnant for a long period of time.
 

royohz

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Now, I didn't bother to read all of the comments here, but I believe that it was definitely the egg. Not because of any stupid reason that I've actually spotted in this thread, but simply because the dinosaurs laid eggs!!

Sheesh...
 
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Samcanuck said:
So what did you put? Be honest, does it follow your religious beliefs?
Egg and nope. By definition, the embryo of the first chicken must have been created by a proto-chicken which then mutated. Neither proving or disproving religious beliefs.
 

Puzzles

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Egg. Yeah, I'm an athiest. Also correct; not believing in evolution is crazy, however most of the religious people I know believe in both evolution and god.
 

Doug

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The question is wholy invalid, because there is no one thing classified as a [chicken's] egg over time - the Egg and the Chicken have evolved from earlier states in tandem, and as such neither really came first - I suppose you could say the Egg, from the point of view that most likely had the least changes to it over the course of recent evolution.
 

Doug

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Puzzles said:
Egg. Yeah, I'm an athiest. Also correct; not believing in evolution is crazy, however most of the religious people I know believe in both evolution and god.
Indeedie; they are not mutually exclusive, whatever some corrupt politicans and ministers want people to believe.