Poll: Chicken or the Egg?

[gbemery]

I say the basic elements and sub atomic particles came first

And then came the dinosaurs. Rawr.

and then came the asteroid. BOOM!!

 

[Kurokami]

Now that you've answered...the point of my question. Is this question not the question of ones personal belief on Evolution vs creationism.

It's simple...chicken comes first and wasn't born from an egg. God put it here. You believe creationism governs life.

Egg comes first.....That egg is the first evolved chicken. When this hatches, the first chicken will have entered the world. (or the first chicken zygote if you must)

Let's just say 'I don't know' goes to Agnostics and Athiests.

So what did you put? Be honest, does it follow your religious beliefs?

Must be the egg, the current in thing now, even for those who are religious is to roll with evolutions punches. According to natural selection it would be the egg that contains the genetic formula for a chicken as opposed to its parents (both of which I'm sure brought something to the table), I'm not sure what other theory's exactly exist, perhaps mutation?

(I suppose to exception would be if the final defining aspect of a chicken is that it lays eggs, meaning up until the possibility of it laying eggs it was something else =/)

 

[Kinguendo]

Wait, where did that link go? Ah man, you are robbing people of that cool video! D:

...How did I edit that out and forget about it? God I am zoned out.

Here

The world is now a slightly better place.

 

[Kimarous]

The Chicken

Because eggs don't produce chickens, but chicks. It is the chicks, then, that transform into chickens when the time comes. However, in direct correlation between chickens and eggs, chickens come first.

 

[Samcanuck]

Now that you've answered...the point of my question. Is this question not the question of ones personal belief on Evolution vs creationism.

It's simple...chicken comes first and wasn't born from an egg. God put it here. You believe creationism governs life.

Egg comes first.....That egg is the first evolved chicken. When this hatches, the first chicken will have entered the world. (or the first chicken zygote if you must)

Let's just say 'I don't know' goes to Agnostics and Athiests.

So what did you put? Be honest, does it follow your religious beliefs?

Must be the egg, the current in thing now, even for those who are religious is to roll with evolutions punches. According to natural selection it would be the egg that contains the genetic formula for a chicken as opposed to its parents (both of which I'm sure brought something to the table), I'm not sure what other theory's exactly exist, perhaps mutation?

You said it yourself though. Just because it's the 'in thing', doesn't mean its true. It's all about personal belief or interpretation.

 

[Kurokami]

Now that you've answered...the point of my question. Is this question not the question of ones personal belief on Evolution vs creationism.

It's simple...chicken comes first and wasn't born from an egg. God put it here. You believe creationism governs life.

Egg comes first.....That egg is the first evolved chicken. When this hatches, the first chicken will have entered the world. (or the first chicken zygote if you must)

Let's just say 'I don't know' goes to Agnostics and Athiests.

So what did you put? Be honest, does it follow your religious beliefs?

Must be the egg, the current in thing now, even for those who are religious is to roll with evolutions punches. According to natural selection it would be the egg that contains the genetic formula for a chicken as opposed to its parents (both of which I'm sure brought something to the table), I'm not sure what other theory's exactly exist, perhaps mutation?

You said it yourself though. Just because it's the 'in thing', doesn't mean its true. It's all about personal belief or interpretation.

Yeah but I meant most people despite religion are no longer denying evolution so much as looking for compromise, and according to evolution (as I understand it) the egg would have to come first.

 

[manaman]

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Nah it doesn't, because I happen to be of the school of thought that genetic drift plays a far more important role in evolution, a person could still be of the school of thought that random mutations will pop up that will be passed along and either be beneficial, benign, or harmful and that over long periods of time these mutations will develop into traits based on how successful the animals that carry them are. Unsuccessful ones will only show for a few generations before being nearly completely wiped out through natural selection. Successful ones will continue to foster ever increasing numbers of each new generation.

Getting back to the egg, I feel that for evolutionist the egg came first, as it housed the chicken. For creationist the chicken came first as it was created by a deity.


Unless you want to be obstinate like Icecoldcynic and say that the egg the chicken hatched from was technically not a chicken egg and so the chicken came first. I would argue that getting back to basics again it became a chicken at conception, and therefor even through the egg was formed and laid by the proto-chicken it was still a chicken egg as it housed a chicken embryo.

So who knows, I may know a bit more then the average Joe about the subject, but by no way or means would I call myself an expert.

 

[Pegghead]

Well I put my vote in as the chicken came first. And just because i put the chicken doesn't mean I think God one day put a chicken on earth (Despite the fact that I'm a proud Christian, then again most members of our church accept the teachings of Charles Darwin, like most of our schools teach it just to clear any misconceptions). It's because when I look at this I put forth that we should count the first slime to ever form from some kind of...God knows what and crawl from the oceans eventually mating and producing offspring which through genetic mutations led to the first chicken. So that little mutant slime didn't come from an egg. Or at least I don't think so.

 

[Samcanuck]

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Nah it doesn't, because I happen to be of the school of thought that genetic drift plays a far more important role in evolution, a person could still be of the school of thought that random mutations will pop up that will be passed along and either be beneficial, benign, or harmful and that over long periods of time these mutations will develop into traits based on how successful the animals that carry them are. Unsuccessful ones will only show for a few generations before being nearly completely wiped out through natural selection. Successful ones will continue to foster ever increasing numbers of each new generation.

Getting back to the egg, I feel that for evolutionist the egg came first, as it housed the chicken. For creationist the chicken came first as it was created by a deity.


Unless you want to be obstinate like Icecoldcynic and say that the egg the chicken hatched from was technically not a chicken egg and so the chicken came first. I would argue that getting back to basics again it became a chicken at conception, and therefor even through the egg was formed and laid by the proto-chicken it was still a chicken egg as it housed a chicken embryo.

So who knows, I may know a bit more then the average Joe about the subject, but by no way or means would I call myself an expert.

Well, we agree. You're evolution view makes perfect sense. You could be right.

 

[Samcanuck]

Now that you've answered...the point of my question. Is this question not the question of ones personal belief on Evolution vs creationism.

It's simple...chicken comes first and wasn't born from an egg. God put it here. You believe creationism governs life.

Egg comes first.....That egg is the first evolved chicken. When this hatches, the first chicken will have entered the world. (or the first chicken zygote if you must)

Let's just say 'I don't know' goes to Agnostics and Athiests.

So what did you put? Be honest, does it follow your religious beliefs?

Must be the egg, the current in thing now, even for those who are religious is to roll with evolutions punches. According to natural selection it would be the egg that contains the genetic formula for a chicken as opposed to its parents (both of which I'm sure brought something to the table), I'm not sure what other theory's exactly exist, perhaps mutation?

You said it yourself though. Just because it's the 'in thing', doesn't mean its true. It's all about personal belief or interpretation.

Yeah but I meant most people despite religion are no longer denying evolution so much as looking for compromise, and according to evolution (as I understand it) the egg would have to come first.

I get what you are saying. But compromise doesn't denote actual belief, right? Still up for interpretation since we don't know for sure and we can't speak for everyone. Hell over 10 people have voted chicken so far.

 

[internetzealot1]

I put evolution, and yes, it does match my beliefs. Because the Church never believed in creationism. They've known Genesis couldn't interpreted literally since 200. It was the Protestants (no offense) that broke off and didn't have a structure, so anyone with a Bible coul pretty much take anything any way they wanted. Pretty soon, boom. You have creationism.

 

[Crystal Cuckoo]

Atheists will put down "Egg", for the majority of them believe in evolution (like me).

Like you said, the first creature that we define as the chicken had to have hatced from an egg; if it didn't, then it wouldn't be a chicken (just some weird bird thing which has looks similar to a chicken).

 

[Altorin]

Atheists will put down "Egg", for the majority of them believe in evolution (like me).

Like you said, the first creature that we define as the chicken had to have hatced from an egg; if it didn't, then it wouldn't be a chicken (just some weird bird thing which has looks similar to a chicken).

If we assume that it means "Chicken Egg" when we say Egg (If it doesn't, then the first fish that layed eggs proves that Eggs in general came first).. If we call Chicken Egg as a thing laid by a Chicken, then it becomes a rhetorical question again.

 

[Elburzito]

If I had 10 cents everytime someone asked this question...
I think the egg came first. Don't know why.

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

DELETED

 

[Jiggabyte]

The egg. Evolution and creationism aside, there's a good chance the chicken had to hatch first. Besides, eggs probably existed before the chicken came along.

 

[GrinningManiac]

There was a species of fowl that was VERY close to chickens

One day, a female of this species lays an egg. In that egg is a mutation that creates the modern-day chicken. For whatever reason, this mutation allows this chicken to outbreed the predessecor

So the chicken was born from a mutation of a pratically-identical-but-not-quite species

The egg that it came in was obviously of that species, and not the chicken's

ergo, the chicken came first

 

[Red Bomb]

The egg came first! Duh.

Dinosaurs had eggs way before chickins came about. And the question does not specify what kind of egg came first! so there