Poll: Chicken or the Egg?

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Kinguendo

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Jedamethis said:
Kinguendo said:
Jedamethis said:
Kinguendo said:
Egg... Why? Because no one ever specifies that it is a chickens egg.

EDIT: I am eating Ferero Rochets right now, I just felt you might like to know... Mmmmm, tasty.
*attempts to reach through internet to get one*

OT:p Egg. Evolution. And yes. Atheist.
They ARE right in front of the screen... How did you know?! D:
Blind luck :D
Ah... I thought you were stood outside my house with your face pressed against the glass, breathing heavily...

But if that was luck then... who is that at the window?!?
 

Altorin

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Everything the OP said is correct except his assessment of the "I don't know" crowd. You can be agnostic or atheist and still believe in Evolution, and you can easily be agnostic and still believe in creationism (it'd be hard for an atheist to take that stance though).

OT, I picked Egg.
 

Kinguendo

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IdealistCommi said:
Kinguendo said:
Why is everyone at my window?!
Because...*shifty eyes*
i..... heard....U LEIK MUDKIPZ!'
*Everyone gasps*
HEY! This isnt 4Chan we'll be having none of that here Mister... Commi.

Also, I much prefer Golducks.
 

Kinguendo

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Jedamethis said:
Kinguendo said:
Kinguendo said:
But if that was luck then... who is that at the window?!?
IdealistCommi said:
.....Sorry
*Backs off window*
I was abusing my Spy Satellites again.
*Takes 50 more pictures for future reference*
*Smiles*
Bugsyfella said:
Why is everyone at my window?!
I want the chocolates!
I mean, yeah, why is everyone at his window?
*Rubbing Ferero Rochers on himself*

AHAHAHAHAH! Err... I have no idea what you are talking about... ...
 

bigolbear

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theres a chicken and an egg lying in bed after sex.. the chicken turns round to the egg and says "well thats that question answered then" ;-)

i voted chicken, cos i recon it was probly a non chickeny egg that it hatched from because the mothers genetics would have determined the size shape colour etc of the egg. to be precise the outside of the egg was non chickeny and the inside of the egg was totaly chicken.

All this is making me hungry.

for what its worth, im a spiritualist taoist and i beleive in evolution and that the universe as a whole was created or rather came into being by itself - that however in my book makes the universe itself divine. I certainly have no agreement with traditional creationist and god father figure theories.
 

manaman

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Icecoldcynic said:
How is any of that relevant?
I read a bit more on the discussion that occurred before I made my second comment. I see what you are saying. You are trying to say the mutation occurred first within the adult animal and was then passed along to the offspring. Mutations tend to only happen as a result of hypermutation, radiation, viruses, transposons, chemical exposure, and during meiosis. These mutations are not present over the entirety of the animal, and rarely in reproductive organs.

Random mutations that occur within an adult of the species are only very rarely passed along through procreation.

Genetic drift is more important, during this process genes can arise, become recessive, or even disappear altogether. So something very like a chicken breed with things very like a chicken, and laid and egg, what came out of the egg was ever so slightly more like a chicken and could also breed with those things very like a chicken, and the distinction that it could breed with modern chickens as well.

Basically the egg came first because something ever so slightly not a chicken laid an egg that was a chicken. The only other way is to believe that something ever so slightly not a chicken mutated into a chicken then laid eggs that where also chickens.

The thought that poof new species is born is wrong, evolution continues, maybe hindered by breeding for homogeneousness by humans among modern chickens, but still the process is alive in chickens today.
 

Samcanuck

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Altorin said:
Everything the OP said is correct except his assessment of the "I don't know" crowd. You can be agnostic or atheist and still believe in Evolution, and you can easily be agnostic and still believe in creationism (it'd be hard for an atheist to take that stance though).

OT, I picked Egg.
You are correct sir....but to simplify the question at the end of my comment, I simply put Agnostics and Athiests in the catagory of undecided. I myself fall under the minority view of 'I don't know' in the poll.

I personally lean toward evolution for I don't work off of faith (although technically both evolutionist's and creationist's have faith that someone else isn't lieing to them about vital information).
 

MicrosoftPaysMe

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The egg came first because there were dinosaur eggs befor there were any chickens.
Ha I just defeted your logic
 

Gardenia

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gbemery said:
I say the basic elements and sub atomic particles came first
And then came the dinosaurs. Rawr.

MicrosoftPaysMe said:
The egg came first because there were dinosaur eggs befor there were any chickens.
Ha I just defeted your logic
But dinosaurs also layed eggs. So which came first: the Dino or the egg?
 

Kinguendo

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IdealistCommi said:
Kinguendo said:
HEY! This isnt 4Chan we'll be having none of that here Mister... Commi.

Also, I much prefer Golducks.
......Fine. But it is always good to know we all love Pokemon. That is always good
Kinguendo said:
*Rubbing Ferero Rochers on himself*

AHAHAHAHAH! Err... I have no idea what you are talking about... ...
....Dear god not. NOT THAT IMAGE! *Brain bleach*
That is... amazing...

Wait, where did that link go? Ah man, you are robbing people of that cool video! D:
 

Samcanuck

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manaman said:
Icecoldcynic said:
How is any of that relevant?
I read a bit more on the discussion that occurred before I made my second comment. I see what you are saying. You are trying to say the mutation occurred first within the adult animal and was then passed along to the offspring. Mutations tend to only happen as a result of hypermutation, radiation, viruses, transposons, chemical exposure, and during meiosis. These mutations are not present over the entirety of the animal, and rarely in reproductive organs.

Random mutations that occur within an adult of the species are only very rarely passed along through procreation.

Genetic drift is more important, during this process genes can arise, become recessive, or even disappear altogether. So something very like a chicken breed with things very like a chicken, and laid and egg, what came out of the egg was ever so slightly more like a chicken and could also breed with those things very like a chicken, and the distinction that it could breed with modern chickens as well.

Basically the egg came first because something ever so slightly not a chicken laid an egg that was a chicken. The only other way is to believe that something ever so slightly not a chicken mutated into a chicken then laid eggs that where also chickens.

The thought that poof new species is born is wrong, evolution continues, maybe hindered by breeding for homogeneousness by humans among modern chickens, but still the process is alive in chickens today.
Well, whether it is wrong or not is all about a persons belief. Doesn't mean they are 100% wrong just because they don't believe the same things, right?
 

Baldry

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Weeeellllllll, the chicken would of evolved from cells which names I forgot, well anyway the cells would evolve into the chicken, so the chicken....or GOD!