Poll: CoD MW2 Boycott where do you stand? What are your thoughts on it? (flame off)

[MetallicaRulez0]

As far as reducing hacking is concerned, I've played nearly 10,000 CoD4 matches on 360 and have yet to run into a SINGLE hacker. Not one since release day. If IW moderates their servers as well as Microsoft does, I'd say they could pretty much squash all the hacking going on.

 

[Ignignokt]

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

I get how a lot of console gamers don't really understand why this makes PC gamers so angry, but what amazes me is how many console gamers actively support this change out of pure spite for PC gamers.

 

[darkfire613]

I've always been a PC gamer at heart even though I love my consoles. I just can't afford to keep up with the newest computer hardware. With that said I was thinking about picking up MW2 for PC (already have it pre-ordered for PS3) but this has changed my mind. I think that Infinity Ward is going to see a huge drop in sales for the PC version compared to the consoles.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

MW2 is going to kick ass, there is no question about that. So why everyone is so up in arms about this issue I don't understand. Not having servers isn't going to affect how the game plays, it'll be just as fun. It's not like they're taking away content from the game. And if it doesn't work? Patch it, no biggie.

Actually not having dedicated servers will affect how the game play in the way that it restricts game types and variety like no 24/7 X map on Y game type or no Y gametype on all maps 24/7.
It also means no mods which means no proper zombie games unless IW rips off the original CoD zombie concept.

There's a boycott?

If so, think about the L4D2 boycott

And tbh, Oh NOES DEDICATED SERVERS ARE NOT HAPPENING, lets just NOT buy the game we want at all then...


Thats sorta pathetic boys..

Jesus Christ, I'm sick of these damn boycotts. What is this, the fifth one this quarter? Everyone thinks they'll get the same press as L4D2 Boycotters.

This is a problem that occurs with most franchises that get ridiculously popular. After a while, they stop caring about what the community wants because they're still guaranteed more money than any of us can ever imagine with release day sales alone. Christ, we're talking about a game that has caused numerous publishers to push their release dates back by sixth months just to avoid releasing at the same time as it!

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

On the L4D2 boycott and I will edit and add something about it in my orignal post is that these too boycotts are completely different.
L4D2 boycott had no good points being made about it. They complained about the new game being released too soon and support being halved or more for L4D one.

This boycott is about keeping the same we have always had as PC gamers of CoD dedicated servers they are not expensive and easy to make a profit on.
This effectively kills a large part of the CoD community for the next game.
It also just makes it all around harder for clans to be clans.

alright for one whoever decides to boycott a game is not a real gamer. 2 COD is a hardcore game , you play hardcore games on CONSOLES!!! NOT THE COMPUTER!!!!! sorry to say.

Well I have to disagree comepletely and wonder where you are getting that from.

 

[squid5580]

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

I get how a lot of console gamers don't really understand why this makes PC gamers so angry, but what amazes me is how many console gamers actively support this change out of pure spite for PC gamers.

It isn't spite for you PC gamers. To me a gamer is a gamer no matter if it is a current gen or an Atari 2600. It is the love of the industry and gaming with a basic understanding of no matter how hardcore I think I am I know that I cannot support the industry. Even together the harcore gamers can't do it. Not anymore. Not until they figure out how to cut production costs without affecting quality. So by them trying to attract the casual crowd to a game like MW2 is a step in the right direction. Whether or not it will work is another story. I hope it does. I would much rather lose a feature like dedicated servers than see every new release be either a mini game collection or a Peggle wannabe.

It isn't that I don't think they should buy it if they don't want to. That is great. Don't buy it. Voice your dissatisfaction with it. It is how they are going about it that bothers me. Like Activision owes them something. That having dedicated servers is a right not a priviledge. It just reeks of arrogance. And that arrogance is going to be the death of "hardcore" gaming. Unless the "hardcore" gamers start buying 100 copies each they need to appeal to a broader market. They need to bring "casuals" into the fold and teach them the ropes. To make games like MW2 more attractive to them. Otherwise the next gen could be ruled by Wiis and Popcap.

OK, I see where you're coming from. Now, my knowledge of the technical side of things is basically nil but from what I can tell it doesn't cost Activision anything to allow dedicated servers so to the pc gamers it's not so much that it's a "right" but rather a "if it doesn't cost you anything, why are you taking away a beloved feature?" thing. Also, I don't see how having dedicated servers keeps casual gamers out, especially if they still implement their other MP system in addition to keeping dedicated servers.

I don't know for a fact either. Although I did see somewhere around here that it does cost them like 50 - 100 bucks a month or something like that. I just googled it and it seems that they rent them for about that price. Although I don't know how it would work for a big company lile Activision.

 

[squid5580]

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Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

On the L4D2 boycott and I will edit and add something about it in my orignal post is that these too boycotts are completely different.
L4D2 boycott had no good points being made about it. They complained about the new game being released too soon and support being halved or more for L4D one.

This boycott is about keeping the same we have always had as PC gamers of CoD dedicated servers they are not expensive and easy to make a profit on.
This effectively kills a large part of the CoD community for the next game.
It also just makes it all around harder for clans to be clans.

alright for one whoever decides to boycott a game is not a real gamer. 2 COD is a hardcore game , you play hardcore games on CONSOLES!!! NOT THE COMPUTER!!!!! sorry to say.

Well I have to disagree comepletely and wonder where you are getting that from.

And that is the problem. The boycott is about keeping things the same. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way expecting different results. Icould understand if PC sales were overtaking the market and putting console gaming to shame. The fact is they aren't. Sure it may be superior but it isn't user friendly.

As for L4D2 boycott well to me that was alot more than just L4D2. It spoke volumes about the major issue with the industry. Trying to make a fast buck by making small improvements with lots and lots of shinies while half assing your promises is going to hurt them. Which in turn will hurt us.

 

[Ignignokt]

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

I get how a lot of console gamers don't really understand why this makes PC gamers so angry, but what amazes me is how many console gamers actively support this change out of pure spite for PC gamers.

It isn't spite for you PC gamers. To me a gamer is a gamer no matter if it is a current gen or an Atari 2600. It is the love of the industry and gaming with a basic understanding of no matter how hardcore I think I am I know that I cannot support the industry. Even together the harcore gamers can't do it. Not anymore. Not until they figure out how to cut production costs without affecting quality. So by them trying to attract the casual crowd to a game like MW2 is a step in the right direction. Whether or not it will work is another story. I hope it does. I would much rather lose a feature like dedicated servers than see every new release be either a mini game collection or a Peggle wannabe.

If it's a love of the industry, then maybe you should be boycotting the game because it's published by Activision, and Kotik obviously wants to make the gaming industry miserable for profit.

 

[squid5580]

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

I get how a lot of console gamers don't really understand why this makes PC gamers so angry, but what amazes me is how many console gamers actively support this change out of pure spite for PC gamers.

It isn't spite for you PC gamers. To me a gamer is a gamer no matter if it is a current gen or an Atari 2600. It is the love of the industry and gaming with a basic understanding of no matter how hardcore I think I am I know that I cannot support the industry. Even together the harcore gamers can't do it. Not anymore. Not until they figure out how to cut production costs without affecting quality. So by them trying to attract the casual crowd to a game like MW2 is a step in the right direction. Whether or not it will work is another story. I hope it does. I would much rather lose a feature like dedicated servers than see every new release be either a mini game collection or a Peggle wannabe.

If it's a love of the industry, then maybe you should be boycotting the game because it's published by Activision, and Kotik obviously wants to make the gaming industry miserable for profit.

Profits are what make games like MW2 a reality. If it wasn't for a hardass like him at the top then they couldn't afford to pay the guys making the games. His only obvious intention is to make money. His job is to make sure he hires people who can make us have a pleasant experience. Just because he suffers from foot in mouth disease (or is just an honest guy). Take your pick because you know damn well that he isn't the only one who thinks like that. He just has the balls to say it. And don't give me none of that Gabe is jolly ole Saint Nick because if he was he wouldn't charge us the same price as everyone else for games.

 

[Yudas]

Yeah im getting it a release day. Modern warfare is the most polished shooter I have played yet and I really don't care about dedicated servers.

 

[tsolless]

I think that it's strange that they plan to remove dedicated server support as a response to piracy.
Now, I am on a different forum that has some scene members. They are already working on a workaround to provide dedicated server support in pirated versions of the game.
Now, I'm not promoting it but I am saying that people won't buy it because of lack of dedicated server support but will pirate it so that they have dedicated server support.

Developers and publishers need to realize that punishing consumers for what pirates do does not help in anyway because it is incredibly easy to pirate and consumers are potential piraters and pirates are potential consumers.

 

[Willwillwritehiswill]

I disagree with it. PC gaming has always had the edge because, besides better controls for FPSes, Dedicated servers can keep a game alive by basically generating new gamemodes. I mean, how many of you have played a game of dodgeball in Team Fortress 2?
It smacks me of overregulation and laziness. Like they don't really want to support their game fully, so they just lump it together with a console style matchmaking system.
I'll stick with Cod4 for my multiplayer CoD fix for the moment. I have friends who will probably get it on xbox, so eventually, i might get it for mine.

 

[Worr Monger]

Honestly I'm not even excited about this game anyway... and I don't play multiplayer...

But I am a PC gamer, and am angry about how they're trying to completely "consolize" the PC market with this.... the dedicated server was bad enough for the PC community... but how dare they charge us $60... PC games go for $50... screw that, bastards.

I won't buy this game.

But I may still play it XD..... gotta love PC.

 

[Lordmarkus]

I would never support the boycott since I'm buying game mostly for single-player. CoD 4 rocked my socks off and want to continue that story.

For MP, I stand 50/50. I'll make my full judgement when I get to test if IWNet are any good. Maybe I will not bother, since I thought the original L4D was ok.

500 posts! WHUUUUU!!

 

[I Stomp on Kittens]

There's a boycott?

If so, think about the L4D2 boycott

And tbh, Oh NOES DEDICATED SERVERS ARE NOT HAPPENING, lets just NOT buy the game we want at all then...


Thats sorta pathetic boys..

I agree.
If you want it your way make your own damn game.
Just get over it

 

[Soulkiller3]

simple, i play FPS with my mates and like mods, to do this i need a dedicated server.

So no buy for me.

 

[Vlane]

I don't care about the game, the boycott or the whiners.