Poll: CoD MW2 Boycott where do you stand? What are your thoughts on it? (flame off)

[archvile93]

Let's just say that i am boycotting it for other reasons.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=23928

Yeah Activision really has turned into a bunch of greedy assholes. I really hope IW leaves them for someone else like EA. They may not be perfect, but they sure have been improving, and are vastly superior right now.

 

[Bobbovski]

I think the boycott is good, since it seems like they're prepared to listen to us because of the boycott. We couldn't just not buy it and then not tell the developers what they did wrong... if we didn't tell them what they did wrong, then how would they be able to know what they did wrong?

I have pretty strong feelings about the whole issue, not because I really wanted to buy the game that much (I would mostly buy it for singleplayer). But because if game companies discovers that it's "ok" to remove important parts to PC-gaming the phenomenon might spread to other games that I really like. And that's a horrible thought to me at least...


BTW here's an interesting article why console gamers should consider supporting the boycott:

http://www.neocrisis.com/articles/8-gaming/3782-should-console-gamers-support-mw2-boycott

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

snipping

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

On the L4D2 boycott and I will edit and add something about it in my orignal post is that these too boycotts are completely different.
L4D2 boycott had no good points being made about it. They complained about the new game being released too soon and support being halved or more for L4D one.

This boycott is about keeping the same we have always had as PC gamers of CoD dedicated servers they are not expensive and easy to make a profit on.
This effectively kills a large part of the CoD community for the next game.
It also just makes it all around harder for clans to be clans.

alright for one whoever decides to boycott a game is not a real gamer. 2 COD is a hardcore game , you play hardcore games on CONSOLES!!! NOT THE COMPUTER!!!!! sorry to say.

Well I have to disagree comepletely and wonder where you are getting that from.

And that is the problem. The boycott is about keeping things the same. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way expecting different results. Icould understand if PC sales were overtaking the market and putting console gaming to shame. The fact is they aren't. Sure it may be superior but it isn't user friendly.

As for L4D2 boycott well to me that was alot more than just L4D2. It spoke volumes about the major issue with the industry. Trying to make a fast buck by making small improvements with lots and lots of shinies while half assing your promises is going to hurt them. Which in turn will hurt us.

Yes I see what you mean about that with the boycott but that is what all sequels are really but the current interface for server list is fine I have had no problems all it needs is a bit of tinkering.

Besides I have tried both and I find matchmaking to have the finesse of a sledgehammer to my nuts but that is just me.

 

[Ben7]

Going to get it, but I strongly support having dedicated servers.

Hopefully the Co-op missions will make up for not having them.

 

[squid5580]

snipping

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

On the L4D2 boycott and I will edit and add something about it in my orignal post is that these too boycotts are completely different.
L4D2 boycott had no good points being made about it. They complained about the new game being released too soon and support being halved or more for L4D one.

This boycott is about keeping the same we have always had as PC gamers of CoD dedicated servers they are not expensive and easy to make a profit on.
This effectively kills a large part of the CoD community for the next game.
It also just makes it all around harder for clans to be clans.

alright for one whoever decides to boycott a game is not a real gamer. 2 COD is a hardcore game , you play hardcore games on CONSOLES!!! NOT THE COMPUTER!!!!! sorry to say.

Well I have to disagree comepletely and wonder where you are getting that from.

And that is the problem. The boycott is about keeping things the same. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way expecting different results. Icould understand if PC sales were overtaking the market and putting console gaming to shame. The fact is they aren't. Sure it may be superior but it isn't user friendly.

As for L4D2 boycott well to me that was alot more than just L4D2. It spoke volumes about the major issue with the industry. Trying to make a fast buck by making small improvements with lots and lots of shinies while half assing your promises is going to hurt them. Which in turn will hurt us.

Yes I see what you mean about that with the boycott but that is what all sequels are really but the current interface for server list is fine I have had no problems all it needs is a bit of tinkering.

Besides I have tried both and I find matchmaking to have the finesse of a sledgehammer to my nuts but that is just me.

And there you go. It needs tinkering. It needs to change. Is this the optimal fix for it? I dunno. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. To you guys it isn't. Although they aren't doing it for you. I think this is another test to be honest. I think Activision is saying to themselves that OK we will try it this way and bring in a larger fanbase. If it works we will keep supporting PC even with all of it's flaws (and yes PC gaming is flawed to them since they can't stop piracy). If not then let the consoles riegn supreme and the PC can suck it.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

snipping

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

On the L4D2 boycott and I will edit and add something about it in my orignal post is that these too boycotts are completely different.
L4D2 boycott had no good points being made about it. They complained about the new game being released too soon and support being halved or more for L4D one.

This boycott is about keeping the same we have always had as PC gamers of CoD dedicated servers they are not expensive and easy to make a profit on.
This effectively kills a large part of the CoD community for the next game.
It also just makes it all around harder for clans to be clans.

alright for one whoever decides to boycott a game is not a real gamer. 2 COD is a hardcore game , you play hardcore games on CONSOLES!!! NOT THE COMPUTER!!!!! sorry to say.

Well I have to disagree comepletely and wonder where you are getting that from.

And that is the problem. The boycott is about keeping things the same. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way expecting different results. Icould understand if PC sales were overtaking the market and putting console gaming to shame. The fact is they aren't. Sure it may be superior but it isn't user friendly.

As for L4D2 boycott well to me that was alot more than just L4D2. It spoke volumes about the major issue with the industry. Trying to make a fast buck by making small improvements with lots and lots of shinies while half assing your promises is going to hurt them. Which in turn will hurt us.

Yes I see what you mean about that with the boycott but that is what all sequels are really but the current interface for server list is fine I have had no problems all it needs is a bit of tinkering.

Besides I have tried both and I find matchmaking to have the finesse of a sledgehammer to my nuts but that is just me.

And there you go. It needs tinkering. It needs to change. Is this the optimal fix for it? I dunno. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. To you guys it isn't. Although they aren't doing it for you. I think this is another test to be honest. I think Activision is saying to themselves that OK we will try it this way and bring in a larger fanbase. If it works we will keep supporting PC even with all of it's flaws (and yes PC gaming is flawed to them since they can't stop piracy). If not then let the consoles riegn supreme and the PC can suck it.

That's a bold statement as consoles can't stop piracy either and it is just as easy on all platforms.
Since this is for the PC it kinda should have to do with us this is a really bad move with no real reason for it.
There is no problem with the interface it is user friendly and all the stuff they have said it will do is a load of bull as it won't happen.
If it does to a small degree I know there is always need and room for imporvement but if something isn't broke don't fix it.

Also I don't see how this will attract a larger fanbase since this change is only for pc and this is what a lot of PC gamers like about PC gaming over console gaming.

 

[NickCaligo42]

I support the boycott because I hate Activision with all my soul and don't want to support their kind of business tactics lest future employers in my line of work should adopt the same principles themselves.

 

[SilkySkyKitten]

I honestly don't really care. I'm not getting it for PC to begin with, but even if I did I find all the fuss a little overly dramatic. As long as the online is fun and won't lose that sense of fun after a few days/weeks/etc., I don't care if there are dedicated servers or not.

Plus, if I want mods and unique game modes, I'll just stick with TF2/HL2/Source Engine mods anyway.

 

[squid5580]

snipping

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

On the L4D2 boycott and I will edit and add something about it in my orignal post is that these too boycotts are completely different.
L4D2 boycott had no good points being made about it. They complained about the new game being released too soon and support being halved or more for L4D one.

This boycott is about keeping the same we have always had as PC gamers of CoD dedicated servers they are not expensive and easy to make a profit on.
This effectively kills a large part of the CoD community for the next game.
It also just makes it all around harder for clans to be clans.

alright for one whoever decides to boycott a game is not a real gamer. 2 COD is a hardcore game , you play hardcore games on CONSOLES!!! NOT THE COMPUTER!!!!! sorry to say.

Well I have to disagree comepletely and wonder where you are getting that from.

And that is the problem. The boycott is about keeping things the same. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way expecting different results. Icould understand if PC sales were overtaking the market and putting console gaming to shame. The fact is they aren't. Sure it may be superior but it isn't user friendly.

As for L4D2 boycott well to me that was alot more than just L4D2. It spoke volumes about the major issue with the industry. Trying to make a fast buck by making small improvements with lots and lots of shinies while half assing your promises is going to hurt them. Which in turn will hurt us.

Yes I see what you mean about that with the boycott but that is what all sequels are really but the current interface for server list is fine I have had no problems all it needs is a bit of tinkering.

Besides I have tried both and I find matchmaking to have the finesse of a sledgehammer to my nuts but that is just me.

And there you go. It needs tinkering. It needs to change. Is this the optimal fix for it? I dunno. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. To you guys it isn't. Although they aren't doing it for you. I think this is another test to be honest. I think Activision is saying to themselves that OK we will try it this way and bring in a larger fanbase. If it works we will keep supporting PC even with all of it's flaws (and yes PC gaming is flawed to them since they can't stop piracy). If not then let the consoles riegn supreme and the PC can suck it.

That's a bold statement as consoles can't stop piracy either and it is just as easy on all platforms.
Since this is for the PC it kinda should have to do with us this is a really bad move with no real reason for it.
There is no problem with the interface it is user friendly and all the stuff they have said it will do is a load of bull as it won't happen.
If it does to a small degree I know there is always need and room for imporvement but if something isn't broke don't fix it.

Also I don't see how this will attract a larger fanbase since this change is only for pc and this is what a lot of PC gamers like about PC gaming over console gaming.

No you can't stop piracy. Although the difference is you don't need anything other than a internet connection and a computer to pirate a PC game.

 

[Flamezdudes]

Couldn't care less about the game, don't support either side.

I agree, i hate most FPS games these days.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

snipping

Opposed. I am not a fan of whiners who resort to blackmail in a feeble attempt to get what they want. And please do not compare this to L4D2 boycott. They actually had some good points. This has none other than a bunch of spoiled kids having a temper tantrum. I expect this kind of behaviour from 3 year olds in grocery stores who want a chocolate bar. Not from a group of so called "hardcore gamers" who plan on buying an M rated game.

On the L4D2 boycott and I will edit and add something about it in my orignal post is that these too boycotts are completely different.
L4D2 boycott had no good points being made about it. They complained about the new game being released too soon and support being halved or more for L4D one.

This boycott is about keeping the same we have always had as PC gamers of CoD dedicated servers they are not expensive and easy to make a profit on.
This effectively kills a large part of the CoD community for the next game.
It also just makes it all around harder for clans to be clans.

alright for one whoever decides to boycott a game is not a real gamer. 2 COD is a hardcore game , you play hardcore games on CONSOLES!!! NOT THE COMPUTER!!!!! sorry to say.

Well I have to disagree comepletely and wonder where you are getting that from.

And that is the problem. The boycott is about keeping things the same. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way expecting different results. Icould understand if PC sales were overtaking the market and putting console gaming to shame. The fact is they aren't. Sure it may be superior but it isn't user friendly.

As for L4D2 boycott well to me that was alot more than just L4D2. It spoke volumes about the major issue with the industry. Trying to make a fast buck by making small improvements with lots and lots of shinies while half assing your promises is going to hurt them. Which in turn will hurt us.

Yes I see what you mean about that with the boycott but that is what all sequels are really but the current interface for server list is fine I have had no problems all it needs is a bit of tinkering.

Besides I have tried both and I find matchmaking to have the finesse of a sledgehammer to my nuts but that is just me.

And there you go. It needs tinkering. It needs to change. Is this the optimal fix for it? I dunno. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. To you guys it isn't. Although they aren't doing it for you. I think this is another test to be honest. I think Activision is saying to themselves that OK we will try it this way and bring in a larger fanbase. If it works we will keep supporting PC even with all of it's flaws (and yes PC gaming is flawed to them since they can't stop piracy). If not then let the consoles riegn supreme and the PC can suck it.

That's a bold statement as consoles can't stop piracy either and it is just as easy on all platforms.
Since this is for the PC it kinda should have to do with us this is a really bad move with no real reason for it.
There is no problem with the interface it is user friendly and all the stuff they have said it will do is a load of bull as it won't happen.
If it does to a small degree I know there is always need and room for imporvement but if something isn't broke don't fix it.

Also I don't see how this will attract a larger fanbase since this change is only for pc and this is what a lot of PC gamers like about PC gaming over console gaming.

No you can't stop piracy. Although the difference is you don't need anything other than a internet connection and a computer to pirate a PC game.

Well all you need with a console is some guy down the road whole sells them not a big difference and if you want to priate games and you're determined enough you can easily find someone or some outlet.

 

[InfernoJesus]

Modding support makes it hard for IW to sell their DLC to PC gamers. Dedicated servers allow people who have pirated the game to get around activation codes.

 

[Captain_Caveman]

_____________________________-
-_____________________________

If the IW.NET servers aren't
dedicated, then I won't buy.

If the IW.NET servers are
dedicated, then I will buy.

-_____________________________
_____________________________-

I support the boycott because
It supports my opinion of
anti-P2P-game-hosting.

But i don't care if dedicated
servers are player run or IW run.

_____________________________-
-_____________________________

 

[GBlair88]

There's actually something worse than Punkbuster? Shouldn't the universe be imploding?

Anyway back on topic: I cancelled my pre-order of MW2 tonight to support the boycott even though I really really want the game. Hopefully IW will take the hint and add dedi server support before I decide to buy the game out of sheer boredom after christmas.

 

[nairb1582]

I was rather looking forward to this game and certainly not happy about this turn of events. Either way, "boycott' is a strong word. I just don't think i will be paying for this game if you know what I mean. Either way, the boycott wont achieve much. if its a good game, people will buy it. If its a bad game, people will buy it anyway just because Call of Duty has found its way into the casual video game collective that made games like Halo a success. and these people are console players. Anyway, the boycott won't achieve much, the hackers will find a way around their security and mod the game anyway etc, and the game will be a commercial success. PC gamers have been a screwed over demographic for a while now and always benefit in the end.

 

[Subach]

I'm going to buy it used for the 360.
It'll be cheaper, and I'll get to play the game without personally giving money to Activision at the same time.