Poll: "Console wars" seem a bit silly nowadays, don't they?

[Vault101]

in thsi particular generation..yeah its silly...

the whole PC vs consoel thing is also silly...yes PC gaming is better

BUT I got a console for many vaild reasons, even if I had a rig built for me by some aliens from the future...I would still have the same problems I did before

my point is whats there to argue about? a persons personal preference and circumstance..t.hats just stupid

 

[crazyarms33]

I think that what people argue more over now is games which is much like you said, but I think that tends to cross over into console arguments. For example: The other day I was talking with a friend and he was going on and on about Skyward Sword. I haven't played it, don't plan on playing it and most likely will never watch anyone play it and when I told him that he went on a 15 minute rant. Then he finally got to the point and asked me, and I quote "Why would you never play the best game that will be released in our lifetime?". Ignoring the fan boyness as best I could I replied, rather simply I thought, that "It's on the wii. I don't have one, don't want one and really they don't make games for it that I want to play." You would have thought that I performed female genital mutilation on his mother with rusty scissors in front of him while burning his dog on bonfire I had made of his mutilated father's body parts.

All because we disagreed about a game. It really depends, I think, on whether or not the person you are talking with is capable of setting aside their brand loyalty and having an open and frank discussion about it. So certainly the console wars are ongoing but its more between die hard "loyalists" if you will, then the casual gamer who plays what they enjoy regardless of system.

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

Can't we all just get along.....no..ok then, gameboy color. I don't care if I have 1 of everything and a good pc rig, if Pokemon yellow is near me all other things become irrelevant.

And as one of the people lucky enough to won every from of video game console I've been unlucky enough to see every fan-boy.
XBOX= Everything else isn't as good, we have halo.
PS3=Our console is better and doesn't die.
Wii= ok never met a wii fanboy but ill generalize all Nintendo fan-boys together in that their exclusive hoers.
PC= Feel their better than everyone else because usually they spent more and will always ask, why didn't you get it on PC.

Also on a side note Mac users, I don't like Macs because I can't build one. Also Tomb Raider is not that good of game stop saying it is.

 

[4RT1LL3RY]

Console wars can only happen at the start of a console generation. We are so far in that it isn't a war any more, each one is established in its market and is doing well enough to warrant a new generation.

We need a new generation of consoles though, The Wii is still using technology from the Gamecube, aka 2001. The Xbox 360 while state of the art in 2005 is showing its age, just like the PS3 from 2006. There isn't any more they can do on this hardware to make it prettier, I mean the HD systems only have 512MB of RAM total.

A $300 laptop now is technically superior, in terms of raw power, to any modern console.
4GB of RAM is common place.
You can't get anything below a dual-core processor.
Hard drives at very low prices per GB(before the production facilities in Thailand were damaged)
And GPUs well that's a whole another league now, immediately after the 360 came out the performance of a single card doubled in a single generation. nVidia's 8800 series was a milestone.

TLDR; Console war is to late in generation, it ended a long time ago. Current gen consoles REALLY need an update in tech and performance.

 

[0p3rati0n]

Also on a side note Mac users, I don't like Macs because I can't build one. Also Tomb Raider is not that good of game stop saying it is.

Dear Marcus Kehoe,

fair enough.

-Signed a mac user.

OT- Yeah the console wars have died down a bit. Which is good. Now if only people can do the same for PC v. Mac.

 

[4RT1LL3RY]

Also on a side note Mac users, I don't like Macs because I can't build one. Also Tomb Raider is not that good of game stop saying it is.

Dear Marcus Kehoe,

fair enough.

-Signed a mac user.

OT- Yeah the console wars have died down a bit. Which is good. Now if only people can do the same for PC v. Mac.

No hate towards Macs themselves from me, they are very nice machines. However the markup on there value as well as the distasteful changes they are making to turn OSX into iOS are infuriating. The problem isn't and has never been Mac's to me it is Apple's pretentious attitude as well as the "fanboys" that Apple has that cause much of the "hate" towards Mac.

-Signed a PC Enthusiast

 

[pppppppppppppppppp]

There isn't any more they can do on this hardware to make it prettier, I mean the HD systems only have 512MB of RAM total.

4GB of RAM is common place.

Well, to be fair, there's a difference between the way a console and a PC uses RAM. There's a reason good computers still can't run PS2 emulators very well.

 

[Humza Ahmad]

It always seemed silly to me. Whenever I got into a debate, it rapidly escalated into a heated argument and when it did I just said it's just a console, not something to end a friendship over.

 

[4RT1LL3RY]

My current laptop with an i3 processor at 2.23Ghz and a midrange ATI graphics card is able to play PS2 emulators great. 720p at 60 vps without sound glitches in most games. Emulating hardware is very inefficent, have you seen the Android SDKs virtual phone? Its horribly slow.

The difference between how the console and PC use their memory is that one has to deal with an OS for general purpose things, while one is made for one purpose. Upping console memory would make for much better experiences in games, better textures/ less texture popping, faster load times, more memory means you can do more pretty things in graphics. If we have more memory for graphics we can also finally get out of the low FOVs common in games now to get better framerates without optimizing the engine.

 

[hazabaza1]

Console wars and Console vs PC wars are all idiotic.
It's all just games, guys! Why don't we just have some fun, y'know?

 

[RatRace123]

my point is whats there to argue about? a persons personal preference and circumstance..t.hats just stupid

Nonsense, if we can't argue about a person's preferences and the real life circumstances that may lead to them owning the machine that they do... how will we be able to inform them that they're wrong, and how much superior we are to them and why they should stop being such stinky stupid faces?

 

[RA92]

Well, to be fair, there's a difference between the way a console and a PC uses RAM. There's a reason good computers still can't run PS2 emulators very well.

The issue with PS2 emulators have very little to do with RAM and everything to do with the processor's architecture. The PS2 ran multiple chips simultaneously which is tough to emulate on single core processors, and even tougher to emulate the tight synchronization on multiple cores.

As for RAM, consoles have very efficient operating systems, whereas PCs have OS that take up a heftier amount of memory. But even then, when I'm running Win7 with Gamebooster, it only takes up about 300MB of RAM. Which is measly compared to the 4GB RAM setup that's quite common.

Yeah, I didn't really talk about it, but PC gamers will be elitist from now till the end of time. I wish I could spend 1000+ dollars on a gaming computer and be able to download mods and stuff, but I can't and I just have to accept that.

If you're spending $1000+ on your PC... you're doing it wrong. Yeah, your budget can spin out uncontrollably if you decide to pack in dual GPUs and SSDs, but people usually spend around $500 on a new rig and even less when upgrading.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.272899-Want-to-build-a-PC-on-a-budget-Meet-the-500-gaming-rig#10531988

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.262808-For-the-non-PC-gamers-out-there-here-is-a-cheap-gaming-rig-now-with-EXTREME-budget-edition#9928054

Last I remember, a PS3 when released used to cost $600, and the big ass HD TVs people tend to buy for consoles aren't cheap either. And considering PC gamers can buy PC games super cheap from DD sales, costs are recouped pretty fast.

PC gaming isn't worth the investment.

To you, maybe. But for someone who likes strategy games, high-end simulators, MMOs (before you scoff fashionably, I'm talking about titles like EVE and Planetside), indie games, older console titles ranging from Megadrive to PS2 and ridiculously cheap games, it's well worth the investment.

OT: Funnily enough, I don't mind this console generation holding back the graphical capabilities of gaming. It has resulted in me not upgrading my rig since 2007.

And honestly, there'll always be PC games pushing CPU/GPU limits, AAA games be damned.

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[Palademon]

Well, I don't consider the old time console wars to be that stupid, since bits actually made a difference to what you could do.

But now there's no point to say a console is better because of graphics, unless you cannot live with yourself at a slightly lower reoslution. Consoles are too different now.

 

[SadisticBrownie]

It may be calm now, but it'll be back to normal as soon as the new generation of consoles turns up. Yay!

 

[meryatathagres]

Remove the "nowadays". The wars have always been dumb. That said, I will never buy anything made by apple, but I dont begrudge other people for doing it.

 

[veloper]

Consolewars is a misnomer. It's a COMPETITION. Competition is good and nothing to get so worked up about.

Even the fanboy arguments are entertaining. One side may even be better than the rest, but most importantly, promoting one box is just free speech.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

Iran and Iraq warred for ages... In fact most of the different Arabic sects fight, quarrel and argue all the time... Unless there are Westerners around... Then all the sects who cannot tollerate any non-muslims (Not all of them) will put aside there differences and hate westerners together.

This is like us gamers. Now we have the ongoing battle with casual games, and casual gamers. This has softened our elitist mindsets that has caused us to war the last few years, and re kindled into us being collaberatively elitist against the newcomers. The problem is games are so popular now to a much wider audience, (just look at WOW. Not all of those now gamers were before playing that!) that now the casual gamers are mixing alot more with the hardcore elite, even on forums, and has dampened the waring spirit. We are no longer an in-figting people... we are a peacefull society!

Man I have to stop playing RPG's/wargames, mind is completely addled...

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

Exactly, macs are the better system likely for the cost it costs to make them, but if I was to put the money needed for a mac into a pc, the pc will be better.

 

[MegaManOfNumbers]

*reads first few comments* oh yeah, forgot most of the Escapist are PC elitists. What really sucks is I'm one of the few which still genuinely care for the Wii as an actual console.

My friends hate it, my enemies too. Man, it sucks being one of few defenders for Nintendo.

....

You know, other than Operation Rainfall. Where's my F**KING Xenoblade, Nintendo!?!?

Wanking aside, these wars are always pretentious. Also, it seems hypocritical for PC elitists to call Consoles stupid. Isn't PC a console too? wait, isn't the PC where the term: "Console" originate from?

Think about that for a minute. the biggest mistake PC gamers made these last 20 years is thinking their different from us TV based gamers.

 

[Jim Sturtridge]

funnily enough Raiyan 1.0- EVE isn't that different from other mmos and strategy games just aren't for everyone(console gamers) that said indie games are also availible for xbox live arcade/psn the truth is PC gaming is dead/dying for several years, consoles own the market and new physical games for pc aren't easy to come by it being in the back of the line for releases