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SUPERtwinky

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Read the following news article and then leave your opinion...
The Article is by the burlington free press in Burlington VT.




"Sept. 1 will be the third day of classes at Montpelier High School. Students will be streaming onto the school grounds early that morning, by car and on foot.

Out on the sidewalk leading to the school, they might be greeted by a band of protesters holding signs with messages such as ?God hates fags? and ?God?s curse is on your brats.?



It?s not what Principal Peter Evans had in mind to begin the school year. ?My job is to create a warm and welcoming start of the school year,? he said.

The Westboro Baptist Church, a Kansas-based group with a Web site called www.GodHatesFags.com, has announced plans to protest at Montpelier High School and five other Vermont locations that day, the first day same-sex marriage is legal in the state.

?Your state is poised to begin giving out marriages to homosexuals,? said Shirley Phelps-Roper, daughter of Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps. ?It is that abomination that has sealed your doom.?

Phelps-Roper said she expects up to 10 members to make the trip to Vermont. ?I have my ticket,? she said Thursday.

The group is well-known for outrageous protests around the country, including at soldiers? funerals, where members make pronouncements such as ?Thank God for dead soldiers? and declare that the death is God?s revenge against a sinful nation. They came to Vermont in 1999 to protest same-sex marriage in front of the Vermont Supreme Court.

The group?s message is so universally regarded as offensive that it has some of those who are targeted in a quandary about the best way to respond. Should they ignore the group? Should they counterprotest?

?On the one hand, I would love a bunch of counterprotests,? Evans said, ?but that?s exactly what they hope for. What do you do, just pretend they?re not there??

In Burlington, where the group has said it will protest at three Jewish organizations (whom they dub ?Christ-rejecting?) that day, the same debate is going on.

Rabbi Joshua Chasan, whose Ohavi Zedek Synagogue in Burlington is on the group?s protest agenda, noted that the Anti-Defamation League recommends ignoring such groups.

?We respect the right of free speech, and we know that their primary goal is to garner publicity, and there?s nothing to gain by directly engaging with them,? Chasan said.

So instead of planning counter-protests, a group of local clergy and members of the gay and lesbian community have decided to hold ?a community meeting of solidarity in the face of hate speech,? open to all, the evening before.

?It will reflect our thoughts and feelings about free speech and mutual respect,? Chasan said.

The Rev. David O?Brien, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Burlington, said somebody called him wondering if parishioners should plan a counterprotest.

?I?m thinking no,? O?Brien said. ?All that does is draw more attention. I don?t want to feed what they do.?

At the same time, he said, it is painful to see the group use the Baptist name.

?They give Baptists a bad name,? he said. ?We?re a denomination that works very hard at being inclusive and diverse and tolerant.?

For more info you can look the church up on wikepedia. Their website is usually busy though.
Also, one of their members was on fox news, it should be on youtube.
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JaredXE

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The Westoboro people are nobodies. They are just a bunch of inbred(really), hateful people that should have no attention thrown on them so they just shrivel up and die. Anybody that professes to be christian who feels like they do should have Jesus come down personally and give leprosy to their genitals for being the most uncharitable, spiteful assholes on the face of the earth.


Edit: Oh yeah, and there is nothing wrong with gay marriage. If god created everything on heaven and earth, and everything is as according to god's plan(because he is perfect), then obviously gay marriage and homosexuality in general is ok by god and shouldn't be a fucking issue.
 

CD-R

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WBC are professional trolls. I'm glad these people aren't going to hold a counter protest. However I don't think they should bother with the meeting.
 

DerpyDerpyDerp

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Yes, No. I love freedom of speech and use it all the time, but everybody knows that those idiots are just a joke so just kick them out.
 

Emphraim

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SUPERtwinky said:
I'm Fine with them protesting, but harassing kids is a little much...
Yeah, why are they bothering kids? What do the high school students have to do with legal same sex marriage?
 

madcap2112

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Westboro isn't really anything new. They're just a bunch of religious zealots giving Christians a bad name. Not really sure why they're protesting outside a high school though. Whatever, they're full of crap.
 

RebelRising

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I think any human has the right to marry who they want, as well as protest. Everyone knows that the Westboro Baptist Church is nuts; it doesn't change the fact that it's not them who's influencing the sort of legislation that holds back gays.

It's not like I exactly approve of marriage at all, but it's their right, and no one else's to infringe upon that right in any direct way.

Having said that, I am so staying away from this thread, as it is unlikely to end well.
 

savior in death

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i love my mom (who is gay) and i hate all the negativity around her and her partner she is but a person and who are we to say who should be married or not its not our place to say who (whatever u belive in) loves or hates. we should all gorw up and find that nobody is diff form anyone eles just because that person likes the same sex.
 

Adam

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The westbro baptist church make me angry on a level I cannot even explain. I hope their is a god now, so he can send these ignorant, intolerable, hateful cunts to the deepest bowels of hell. Im perfectly fine with the protesting whatever they want, but that doesn't mean they can do it 'wherever' they want. Im glad that England has banned any member of the WBC from entering this country.
 

Legion

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Come one people against gay marriage, have the guts to say why.

I'd personally like to put a bullet through the skulls of every one of those protesters.
 

APPCRASH

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JaredXE said:
The Westoboro people are nobodies. They are just a bunch of inbred(really), hateful people that should have no attention thrown on them so they just shrivel up and die. Anybody that professes to be christian who feels like they do should have Jesus come down personally and give leprosy to their genitals for being the most uncharitable, spiteful assholes on the face of the earth.
HYPOCRISY! Don't stoop to there level, just ignore and walk away.


I'm for freedom of speech, regardless of the message. I personally couldn't care less about gay marriage. It doesn't effect me, so legal or illegal the world will keep spinning as any other day.
 

Mathew952

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They protest a school? How about you protest people who can vote? There is no gain to be made by harrassing and terrorizing kids, they have no political power, and if anything, people who may have sided with the protestors, are now going to side against them because they don't want to be connected with that kind of group.

I really don't get it. They march around claiming that gay people will burn in hell, and that they are an abomination, and try to terrorize them and stone them. If their so evil, and so heinous, then let god punish them when they die. Let god give them eternal suffering, if he thinks they are evil people. Their is no justification for these people to do this. Why don't they go protest Jewish people too? They don't believe in Jesus! For a christian, isn't that a worse offense than liking men?

Also, if god hates gay people so much, why doesn't he kill them? He's Fucking GOD. If he hates someone, he can just light their house on fire, throw some lightening at them, and have a tree fall on their car. Until Your god does that to every gay person, I have trouble believing that he hates them.

EDIT: Oh. They actually are protesting Jewish people. I have no response to that.
 

grimsprice

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There will always be loons to give a general group a bad name. Just so long as they don't do anything illegal like harass kids.... oh wait...

This is what i suggest, a gay couple should just sit down on the curb next to the protesters and snog, for hours. If they do anything to the couple the cops should arrest the whole lot. Best way to get rid of trolls like these idiots and PETA.
 

joshthor

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this is exactly why people hate christians. as a note, i am a christian. i personally dont believe in gay marraige per say, as i believe God made marriage specifically between a man and a woman before god. but i do believe they should get the same rights (financial, legal) as married people in some sort of civil union. protesting gay peoples rights is virtually the same as in the civil rights movement when people protested black peoples rights.

the most disturbing part is what they called thier movement (godhatesfags) fact is christains are supposed to promote that god loves EVERYONE. while i believe he doesnt like people being gay he did give them that choice and loves the people anyway.

edit: personally if it was at my school i would have formed a small mob to start beating the shit out of them
 

JaredXE

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APPCRASH said:
JaredXE said:
The Westoboro people are nobodies. They are just a bunch of inbred(really), hateful people that should have no attention thrown on them so they just shrivel up and die. Anybody that professes to be christian who feels like they do should have Jesus come down personally and give leprosy to their genitals for being the most uncharitable, spiteful assholes on the face of the earth.
HYPOCRISY! Don't stoop to there level, just ignore and walk away.
Ah, but I don't pretend to be christian. While I feel that yes, walking away from them and not feeding the trolls is good practice in general, I also think some kind of justice/revenge/karma should be visited on them for the suffering that they spread to families and loved ones.

I don't disagree with their right to spout such hateful things, the same as my right to be hateful right back at them.