Don't underestimate cantrips!Thaius said:Well admittedly I'm currentply playing my first ever campaign, but I'm a Gnome Wizard, Neutral Good, and I am loving it. At first I was completely useless, since Cantrips do pretty much nothing in battle (though they were slightly helpful in conversation). But once I started getting some other spells, I became pretty hardcore. I really enjoy it.
I'm considering casting Enlarge Person on myself, followed by a permanency spell so I can be a 6-foot tall gnome. Just 'cause that would be awesome.
Some of our players try to do that...Gormourn said:Creative use of spells and diplomacy is awesome... And being a secret mastermind, very often just using the group for your own gain is even better =P
Yes, of yourse. Most important are the players and the mood of the game. But some games help you doing that which you really want. I for example just LOVED Earthdawn for a bit of high-magic adventures with some hmm.... abstract campaigns. For some quickwitted, adventurous swashbuckling 7th Sea is the greatest. Broody plotting in a dark world: Vampire of course (second edition - its more depressing).dietpeachsnapple said:Do you have some recommendations as for better games?Summerstorm said:Most fun i had was with a lawful evil monk... yeah. But i have a chaotic neutral Fighter/Sorcerer i am playing right now which is great too.
Also i have to say that D&D is one of the lowlier form of pen&paper roleplaying games... much better out there (And all beware of 4th editions.. hell nothing is good in 4th edition, not even Shadowrun)
I have played a few others with this group. You have to realize that it isn't WHAT we play, but HOW we play it. We always have fun, no matter what. That's the point.
It's hard to explain, Vampire the Masquerade was written both ways, I think it started with a pencil paper based system, but there is a version where there are character based paper stats but they threw out the dice mechanic and instead use cards or rock paper scissors. It's not like you run around and hit each other with foam weapons and that means whatever part of you is hit is injured. There are stats and abilities which have actual values and you need to consult your character sheet. It just brings the board part of the game to more person to person based interactions.dietpeachsnapple said:Wouldn't a LARP game make it a NON-paper and pencil game?Rednog said:I personally love the LARP version of Vampire the Masquerade. It lets you get so much done in a few hours of play and lets your pit yourself against other players for some backstabbing hilarity. And it doesn't require much in terms of knowledge and you can literally teach some one the basics and get them playing like a pro in like 30 minutes to an hour.dietpeachsnapple said:Do you have some recommendations as for better games?Summerstorm said:Most fun i had was with a lawful evil monk... yeah. But i have a chaotic neutral Fighter/Sorcerer i am playing right now which is great too.
Also i have to say that D&D is one of the lowlier form of pen&paper roleplaying games... much better out there (And all beware of 4th editions.. hell nothing is good in 4th edition, not even Shadowrun)
I have played a few others with this group. You have to realize that it isn't WHAT we play, but HOW we play it. We always have fun, no matter what. That's the point.
Heh, I never thought of that use. There have been some great uses for cantrips, that's for sure, they just rarely came into play during battle. I try to use them creatively sometimes, but I tend to get bad rolls when I try.dietpeachsnapple said:Don't underestimate cantrips!Thaius said:Well admittedly I'm currentply playing my first ever campaign, but I'm a Gnome Wizard, Neutral Good, and I am loving it. At first I was completely useless, since Cantrips do pretty much nothing in battle (though they were slightly helpful in conversation). But once I started getting some other spells, I became pretty hardcore. I really enjoy it.
I'm considering casting Enlarge Person on myself, followed by a permanency spell so I can be a 6-foot tall gnome. Just 'cause that would be awesome.
You are in a dark building with no lights.
You have ogres in the next room.
Your team all has darkvision.
You tell your team to close their eyes and cast light in the next room.
dispell the light and your team charges.
You just blinded an entire room of ogres because their darkvision will not come back into effect for another few minutes.
I once played in a shadowrun LARP... i was AWESOME (It was a one-shot event with fixed character in a lottery) I got to be an undercover cop in an illigal shadowrunner-bar and was gathering intelligence. Hell.. i got i think more than five people to confess to dozens of crimes, and took down two shady deals. It was just great, when after like three hours of play i just stood up and said: "No one MOVES, LONE STAR" and my two collegues stood up to and we began taking people out of the room. (But the damn illigal sorcerers escaped grml... GOD that evening was so much fun.Rednog said:It's hard to explain, Vampire the Masquerade was written both ways, I think it started with a pencil paper based system, but there is a version where there are character based paper stats but they threw out the dice mechanic and instead use cards or rock paper scissors. It's not like you run around and hit each other with foam weapons and that means whatever part of you is hit is injured. There are stats and abilities which have actual values and you need to consult your character sheet. It just brings the board part of the game to more person to person based interactions.dietpeachsnapple said:Wouldn't a LARP game make it a NON-paper and pencil game?Rednog said:I personally love the LARP version of Vampire the Masquerade. It lets you get so much done in a few hours of play and lets your pit yourself against other players for some backstabbing hilarity. And it doesn't require much in terms of knowledge and you can literally teach some one the basics and get them playing like a pro in like 30 minutes to an hour.dietpeachsnapple said:Do you have some recommendations as for better games?Summerstorm said:Most fun i had was with a lawful evil monk... yeah. But i have a chaotic neutral Fighter/Sorcerer i am playing right now which is great too.
Also i have to say that D&D is one of the lowlier form of pen&paper roleplaying games... much better out there (And all beware of 4th editions.. hell nothing is good in 4th edition, not even Shadowrun)
I have played a few others with this group. You have to realize that it isn't WHAT we play, but HOW we play it. We always have fun, no matter what. That's the point.
You sound like me>_>dietpeachsnapple said:Don't underestimate cantrips!Thaius said:Well admittedly I'm currentply playing my first ever campaign, but I'm a Gnome Wizard, Neutral Good, and I am loving it. At first I was completely useless, since Cantrips do pretty much nothing in battle (though they were slightly helpful in conversation). But once I started getting some other spells, I became pretty hardcore. I really enjoy it.
I'm considering casting Enlarge Person on myself, followed by a permanency spell so I can be a 6-foot tall gnome. Just 'cause that would be awesome.
You are in a dark building with no lights.
You have ogres in the next room.
Your team all has darkvision.
You tell your team to close their eyes and cast light in the next room.
dispell the light and your team charges.
You just blinded an entire room of ogres because their darkvision will not come back into effect for another few minutes.