Poll: Daniel Tosh threatens Woman with Gang Rape

[DudeistBelieve]

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fucking finally someone who understands this has nothing to do with whether certain humor is okay or funny

this is not a fucking censorship issue

That's exactly what this is about(not censorship, I don't claim this is about censorship). The OP asks if rape jokes are ok to tell, and trying to crucify a man for telling a joke is about whether or not the joke is ok to tell. You can cloak it in whatever flowery language you want, and try to deflect and make it about offending people or about being sensitive to rape victims but it isn't. It's about trying to say that some things aren't ok to joke about.

Further, I'll make a comment about the censorship argument. Censorship doesn't just come from the government, social pressures constitute censorship that is usually stronger than government censorship. That's an extension of social norms being so powerful, and censorship is wrong no matter who perpetrates it, government or culture.

so, by your logic, if someone is following someone, harassing them, saying things that make them uncomfortable, and claims they're just joking, nothing should happen to them, because that would be censorship?

dude, it doesn't matter whether he's a comedian, and it has nothing to do with offending people.

by saying shit like that you are actively contributing to a rape culture, a culture that fosters and promotes and allows and endorses rape. you are not just excercising freedom of speech, you are literally putting more people in a position where they feel like it's okay to rape someone.

Logical fallacy of false analogy. He didn't follow her around or seek her out. She came to his show. She singled herself out by standing up and making a fuss about the joke. Also, I never said it had anything to do with him being a comedian, people who aren't comedians joke too, all the time.

No I'm not doing anything of the sort. Feel free to think that, but it's not the truth, and it has everything to do with him offending people. I never said it was ok to rape, i said it was ok to make jokes about rape. It's ok to make jokes about racism, slavery, handicaps, murder, thievery, and all manner of things that it's not ok to do. I 100% guarentee you have laughed at a joke about something that it is not ok to do. This is because no joke is off limits, no matter how heinous the subject matter.

By saying "shit like that" I am not "contributing to a culture" that accepts rape, I am endorsing a culture that says it's ok to joke, and talk, about rape, and that will never be anything but a good thing. I am not "putting more people in a position where they think it's ok to rape" either. Jokes about murder don't make people murderers, jokes about Hitler don't make people kill 12 million human beings, and jokes about rape don't make people rapists. That is so illogical I can't even put myself in a place where it makes sense. Rape is not some magical thing that breaks the rules of causality and guilt. Something that doesn't apply to murder and genocide, doesn't apply to rape either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture

it's a real thing dude, it's not a fabrication, and there is sociological evidence to support it

i'm sorry if you can't grasp that.

also, nobody is banning rape jokes

nobody is banning anything

tosh was being a dumbass in how he handled a heckler, and people are calling him on it

Why is everyone attacking the comedian and not the heckler?

Because white knights believe if they defend a woman, even if she is wrong, she is obligated to pop out of their monitors and fuck them.

For whatever reason, there are many people who actually believe this and go on entire petty crusades.

If this post were a woman, i'd defend it on a forum and hope it would jump through my monitor. I love it that much.

The post you covet so much is showing a wee-bit to much ankle.

A WHORE! A WHORE IS THE POST I SAY!

So what say ye?

You are obviously a man, because what you are saying is sexist, and all men are sexist, and no joke at the expense of someone else is out of line. That post is a good, and honest woman and it is her choice whether or not to jump through my monitor or not.

There you are wrong my friend, for I actually am a one-eyed cyclops purple monkey dishwasher pansexual from the darkest corners of the galaxy, and I DEMAND MY VIEWPOINT BE HEARD AND RESPECTED and all those that disagree with me are either racist or anti-pansexual! and I will call upon my defenders to attack at the!

And the post be a whore! The other day I saw the post holding hands with the Philips boy across the street! Why she even dared to kiss him on the cheek!

 

[spartan231490]

More people who think I want to censor comedy.
I don't, I'm just making my opinion known. Besides, HOW could I possibly censor Daniel Tosh? I'm just some guy on the internet. Just because my opinion is opposite doesn't mean that I'm actively trying to keep others from opposing me. I couldn't, even if I wanted to.
Also, it's just a freaking poll on the escapist. It means about as much as a joke on a Popsicle stick...

Ooo nice backpedal.

If you honestly meant it, then go back, re-read your orginal post, and especially that idiot poll you put on it and think about it. Cause if you didn't mean in you sure as hell seemed to say it and were rightfully brought to task for it.

This just "might just be an Escapist poll" but still doesn't excuse shoddy arguements.

tosh was being a dumbass in how he handled a heckler, and people are calling him on it

The line above was from another poster, Iscariot6794. That I agree with. Tosh was an idiot and people should call him on it. But they should be calling him on the shitty way he handled tyhe heckler and not on his joke topic. My beef with some people in the thread is weather they mean it or not, they are endorsing censorship. I'm all for saying Tosh is a moron, but the line for me stops when you even want to think about saying "Rape is a taboo maybe he shouldn't joke about it"

Amazing, another person who gets it. I was beginning to think they were a myth.

Naming an argument strategy doesn't automatically nullify the argument, sir.

Except a fallacy is an inherently false strategy.

So, uh, yeah it does.

Actually it doesn't. If you want to call someone out on using a logical fallacy, you have to show that it's a logical fallacy, which I don't recall being done. Looking back, the poster did kinda show that it was a straw man, but not in a solid way. I'm not convinced that it was a straw man. He just said the equivalent of "no that's not what they said so that's a straw man" without actually showing that it was a case of a straw man argument..

 

[Drizzitdude]

Is she really free to? People were paying money to see Tosh's work not this woman interrupting his set.

Does this mean if I go to a play, I'm free to heckle the performers?

That's the worst part, she was also a paying "customer". If you pay money for something (Daniel Tosh' being a sarcastic prick, in this instance) and that is delivered to you, how do you complain about that?

If I had been in the audience, and this numb broad stood up to say how wrong rape was and Tosh HADN'T made a crack involving her and the topic, I'd have felt cheated. You went there to listen to Tosh make fun of people, events and things, and he did so. Now sit down and shut up.

This. I mean really if you don't like it leave, it is as simple as that

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Is she really free to? People were paying money to see Tosh's work not this woman interrupting his set.

Does this mean if I go to a play, I'm free to heckle the performers?

That's the worst part, she was also a paying "customer". If you pay money for something (Daniel Tosh' being a sarcastic prick, in this instance) and that is delivered to you, how do you complain about that?

If I had been in the audience, and this numb broad stood up to say how wrong rape was and Tosh HADN'T made a crack involving her and the topic, I'd have felt cheated. You went there to listen to Tosh make fun of people, events and things, and he did so. Now sit down and shut up.

She could of just gotten up from her table, and demanded a refund from the manager of the club.

I understand that is what Comedians do, but thats not really their shtick. No traditional comedian wants to do that cause it's a pain in the ass to wrestle for control of the room with some mark in the crowd.

 

[spartan231490]

Its funny that you mention that this is "the real world" because the real world is a worse place due to you living in it.

The idea of BRONIES defending the use of gang rape joke to shut up a woman who had a legit complaint is almost as shocking as when I found out that there were Nazi bronies...
Oh god the pain...

A legit complaint that she shouted out in the middle of a crowded theater that was filled with people who paid good money to see a show. She deserved what she got. I don't care if she's offended by rape jokes, because I get that. I don't particularly like them either, but I don't ruin other people's fun to voice that opinion.

And no, I'm not a "men's rights" activist. I recognize men have certain advantages in society, that much is true. But claiming rape is a hate crime against women completely ignores the men who have been victims of rape, which is to me a LOT more offensive than making rape jokes, because now you aren't just making light of it, you're pretending it doesn't exist, which is fucked up. So yea, most rapes happen to women, sure, but that doesn't invalidate the ones that happen to men, and they do happen more often than you would think.

But I am amused that you thought Bronies were somehow above offensive jokes. Like some children's cartoon somehow makes people transform into better people. That's a good one, that is.

Excuse the hell out of me for assuming that fans of a show that hammers in "friendship and understanding" like a jackhammer would also tend to believe in friendship and understanding.
Part of friendship and understanding isn't shutting people up with rape jokes.
I hate to say it, but it's like trying to take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke. You KNOW why you don't so it, and you KNOW why you shouldn't. If you do it anyway, then you're just a racist asshole. Same situation.

Actually Tosh seems like the kind of comic who WOULD take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke, so... I don't really see your point with that. He's offensive, that's his thing. He ain't the only one either. Are you going to crusade against every single comedian that makes jokes about rape? Or racist jokes since you also seem to have a problem with that? Because that includes... just about all of them. Do you hate comedy?

If he did something like THAT, he wouldn't be able to get booked to draw flies to horse crap.
And yes, I'd call him a racist asshole, and I'd make sure everyone knew that he was an asshole. I'd be on the campaign to get him fired. I'd help organize the boycott on comedy central until they stop employing a racist. Yea, I'd definitely go there without a second thought.
I'm not easy to discourage. I'm about as bull headed and stupid as you think I am about this.
But I straight up don't care. Screw Comedy, this is the real world.

Its funny that you mention that this is "the real world" because the real world is a worse place due to you living in it.

LMAO.... ok this is rich. Hey SadakoMoose... do you know what the term hypocrite is? You my fine friend are a huge one. You replied to a post I amde complaining that you weren't all about censoring comics for their acts. And then you post this where you straight up admit it. The fact you'd do everything in your power to silence someone who disagree with, amkes you a censor.

This made me laugh quite a bit...

Please edit this to fix the quote.

The idea of BRONIES defending the use of gang rape joke to shut up a woman who had a legit complaint is almost as shocking as when I found out that there were Nazi bronies...
Oh god the pain...

A legit complaint that she shouted out in the middle of a crowded theater that was filled with people who paid good money to see a show. She deserved what she got. I don't care if she's offended by rape jokes, because I get that. I don't particularly like them either, but I don't ruin other people's fun to voice that opinion.

And no, I'm not a "men's rights" activist. I recognize men have certain advantages in society, that much is true. But claiming rape is a hate crime against women completely ignores the men who have been victims of rape, which is to me a LOT more offensive than making rape jokes, because now you aren't just making light of it, you're pretending it doesn't exist, which is fucked up. So yea, most rapes happen to women, sure, but that doesn't invalidate the ones that happen to men, and they do happen more often than you would think.

But I am amused that you thought Bronies were somehow above offensive jokes. Like some children's cartoon somehow makes people transform into better people. That's a good one, that is.

Excuse the hell out of me for assuming that fans of a show that hammers in "friendship and understanding" like a jackhammer would also tend to believe in friendship and understanding.
Part of friendship and understanding isn't shutting people up with rape jokes.
I hate to say it, but it's like trying to take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke. You KNOW why you don't so it, and you KNOW why you shouldn't. If you do it anyway, then you're just a racist asshole. Same situation.

Actually Tosh seems like the kind of comic who WOULD take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke, so... I don't really see your point with that. He's offensive, that's his thing. He ain't the only one either. Are you going to crusade against every single comedian that makes jokes about rape? Or racist jokes since you also seem to have a problem with that? Because that includes... just about all of them. Do you hate comedy?

If he did something like THAT, he wouldn't be able to get booked to draw flies to horse crap.
And yes, I'd call him a racist asshole, and I'd make sure everyone knew that he was an asshole. I'd be on the campaign to get him fired. I'd help organize the boycott on comedy central until they stop employing a racist. Yea, I'd definitely go there without a second thought.
I'm not easy to discourage. I'm about as bull headed and stupid as you think I am about this.
But I straight up don't care. Screw Comedy, this is the real world.

You do realize there are comedians that do that, and still get booked. Heck they get shows. hell, this is Carlos Mencia's whole comedy. And he isn't the only one.

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Never seen him perfoming before, guess I know to avoid him in the future.

Not to say rape jokes can never be funny, but this guy never injected any humour into his lines. He just says he hopes she gets gangraped and leaves it at that, that's not a joke it's more of a threat.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Never seen him perfoming before, guess I know to avoid him in the future.

Not to say rape jokes can never be funny, but this guy never injected any humour into his lines. He just says he hopes she gets gangraped and leaves it at that, that's not a joke it's more of a threat.

It's a threat to hope someone gets raped?

There have been jobs i've worked where I'd hope I'd come in and someone would tell me my (then current) boss was dead. Was I threatening him by hoping for it?

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Never seen him perfoming before, guess I know to avoid him in the future.

Not to say rape jokes can never be funny, but this guy never injected any humour into his lines. He just says he hopes she gets gangraped and leaves it at that, that's not a joke it's more of a threat.

It's a threat to hope someone gets raped?

There have been jobs i've worked where I'd hope I'd come in and someone would tell me my (then current) boss was dead. Was I threatening him by hoping for it?

Well, I said more of a threat than it was a joke. For all I know she's probably been raped in the past, in fact I wouldn't be suprised if she was. Rapes very real and probably every womans biggest fear, so to look someone in the face and say she should get gangraped right here, right now, it can have a profound effect on someone to hear that kind of thing.

I was never there so I can't know the whole story, but you can't just throw around the rape word like it doesn't mean anything. Not unless you're a master of comedy and know how to handle it.

 

[Kolby Jack]

Never seen him perfoming before, guess I know to avoid him in the future.

Not to say rape jokes can never be funny, but this guy never injected any humour into his lines. He just says he hopes she gets gangraped and leaves it at that, that's not a joke it's more of a threat.

It's a threat to hope someone gets raped?

There have been jobs i've worked where I'd hope I'd come in and someone would tell me my (then current) boss was dead. Was I threatening him by hoping for it?

Well, I said more of a threat than it was a joke. For all I know she's probably been raped in the past, in fact I wouldn't be suprised if she was. Rapes very real and probably every womans biggest fear, so to look someone in the face and say she should get gangraped right here, right now, it can have a profound effect on someone to hear that kind of thing.

I was never there so I can't know the whole story, but you can't just throw around the rape word like it doesn't mean anything. Not unless you're a master of comedy and know how to handle it.

I read her post about it, she never mentioned at all that she was ever raped, which you'd think she would if she truly wanted to paint Tosh as some kind of monster. 1 in 6 women have been raped or have experienced an attempt to rape them, so really the safe assumption would be that she hasn't been raped, so why are you just automatically assuming she was? She's not a victim here, she's a *****.

And before you assume I'm sexist for calling a woman a *****, I'll flat out tell you right now that if a woman interrupts a performance that everyone in the room had to pay for just to voice her own opinions rather than just leaving the show, I'll call her a *****. Every single time. If a guy does, he's an asshole. Every single time. That's all there is to this. In a polite society, there's a time and a place to voice your complaints.

 

[Drizzitdude]

Also I am just going to throw this out there for the OP. When you make a poll don't make it a biased one. It is annoying as hell and only makes it look as if you wish to censor the opinions that are not your own.

 

[Tsun Tzu]

The line in the proverbial sand has apparently been drawn and...frankly, I don't understand the reasoning behind it.

People very close to me have been the victim of rape. It's horrific. The jokes are still funny because they're jokes. They're not the act taking place on stage. They're jokes. I'm not quite sure some of you realize this.

As for the heckler? She interrupted a show. She was rebuked. The rebuking was a bit tasteless, in my opinion (Note the word "opinion"), but well within the context of the set, the current stream of humor, and the comedian's style. Her taking offense to it isn't the problem. She's allowed to be offended. Interrupting the show, which others were enjoying, in order to express that feeling equates to an open invitation for commentary on said feeling.

I'm not sure where the "threat" part comes in either. "Wouldn't it be great if..." does not constitute a threat to me. Then again, pretty much anything can be construed as a threat, which falls into personal perceptions of reality/opinions/etc. Anyone reasonable should be able to understand that the woman's equally at fault for this occurrence.



This just seems like sensationalism and blatant misinformation in an effort to garner support...the poll is more evidence of that being the case.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Never seen him perfoming before, guess I know to avoid him in the future.

Not to say rape jokes can never be funny, but this guy never injected any humour into his lines. He just says he hopes she gets gangraped and leaves it at that, that's not a joke it's more of a threat.

It's a threat to hope someone gets raped?

There have been jobs i've worked where I'd hope I'd come in and someone would tell me my (then current) boss was dead. Was I threatening him by hoping for it?

Well, I said more of a threat than it was a joke. For all I know she's probably been raped in the past, in fact I wouldn't be suprised if she was. Rapes very real and probably every womans biggest fear, so to look someone in the face and say she should get gangraped right here, right now, it can have a profound effect on someone to hear that kind of thing.

I was never there so I can't know the whole story, but you can't just throw around the rape word like it doesn't mean anything. Not unless you're a master of comedy and know how to handle it.

It's not a threat in the least. Only in a poorly written mobster movie "You got a lot of nice things in this house, it be a shame if someone broke them." kind of way. Comedian, on a stage, it's heavily implied nothing he says is to be taken seriously.

Also she loses her right to sympathy when she decides to become disruptive during a performance. If she felt so offended by the skit she should of quietly left the room and demanded her money back at the ticket area do to the offending jokes, not stand up and play moral police because she felt she had the moral high ground.

The problem isn't THE JOKE. The Joke exist because something as horrible and dark as RAPE exist. Because the reality of the world is we can't stop it, and countless other horrible things from happening from people in this world. Dark Humor exist as a cathartic release so we can live in this world and not put a gun in our mouths.

If you try and give every terrible thing in this world the gravity it really deserves, you wouldn't even want to get out of bed in the morning.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

The idea of BRONIES defending the use of gang rape joke to shut up a woman who had a legit complaint is almost as shocking as when I found out that there were Nazi bronies...
Oh god the pain...

A legit complaint that she shouted out in the middle of a crowded theater that was filled with people who paid good money to see a show. She deserved what she got. I don't care if she's offended by rape jokes, because I get that. I don't particularly like them either, but I don't ruin other people's fun to voice that opinion.

And no, I'm not a "men's rights" activist. I recognize men have certain advantages in society, that much is true. But claiming rape is a hate crime against women completely ignores the men who have been victims of rape, which is to me a LOT more offensive than making rape jokes, because now you aren't just making light of it, you're pretending it doesn't exist, which is fucked up. So yea, most rapes happen to women, sure, but that doesn't invalidate the ones that happen to men, and they do happen more often than you would think.

But I am amused that you thought Bronies were somehow above offensive jokes. Like some children's cartoon somehow makes people transform into better people. That's a good one, that is.

Excuse the hell out of me for assuming that fans of a show that hammers in "friendship and understanding" like a jackhammer would also tend to believe in friendship and understanding.
Part of friendship and understanding isn't shutting people up with rape jokes.
I hate to say it, but it's like trying to take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke. You KNOW why you don't so it, and you KNOW why you shouldn't. If you do it anyway, then you're just a racist asshole. Same situation.

Actually Tosh seems like the kind of comic who WOULD take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke, so... I don't really see your point with that. He's offensive, that's his thing. He ain't the only one either. Are you going to crusade against every single comedian that makes jokes about rape? Or racist jokes since you also seem to have a problem with that? Because that includes... just about all of them. Do you hate comedy?

If he did something like THAT, he wouldn't be able to get booked to draw flies to horse crap.
And yes, I'd call him a racist asshole, and I'd make sure everyone knew that he was an asshole. I'd be on the campaign to get him fired. I'd help organize the boycott on comedy central until they stop employing a racist. Yea, I'd definitely go there without a second thought.
I'm not easy to discourage. I'm about as bull headed and stupid as you think I am about this.
But I straight up don't care. Screw Comedy, this is the real world.

....You do realize that just about every comedian who has gotten their own show on Comedy Central has made jokes like that right? Carlos Mencia did it, Dave Chapelle did it, Heck, I just saw their most recent comedy duo, Key & Peele make a joke about two Africans who were taken into slavery complaining about not getting bought at an auction house. I also remember a skit they did where they covered their faces up in chalk in order to escape a Nazi concentration camp, it ends with them playing over a piece yarn because according to the nazi that's one of the things that "The Negro can't resist". In fact, I also recall a pretty popular video about a man breaking into the home of two children and shouting "I'm gonna grape you in the mouth". This stuff has been happening for a while, but you didn't care then. Everything can be funny when the joke is done right.

Its comedy. You take it with a grain of salt and move on.

Edit: Also, you are going to need to add a "yes" to that poll. I'm sorry if you do not like it, but we do not accept bias polls regardless of the topic.

 

[SadakoMoose]

More people who think I want to censor comedy.
I don't, I'm just making my opinion known. Besides, HOW could I possibly censor Daniel Tosh? I'm just some guy on the internet. Just because my opinion is opposite doesn't mean that I'm actively trying to keep others from opposing me. I couldn't, even if I wanted to.
Also, it's just a freaking poll on the escapist. It means about as much as a joke on a Popsicle stick...

Ooo nice backpedal.

If you honestly meant it, then go back, re-read your orginal post, and especially that idiot poll you put on it and think about it. Cause if you didn't mean in you sure as hell seemed to say it and were rightfully brought to task for it.

This just "might just be an Escapist poll" but still doesn't excuse shoddy arguements.

tosh was being a dumbass in how he handled a heckler, and people are calling him on it

The line above was from another poster, Iscariot6794. That I agree with. Tosh was an idiot and people should call him on it. But they should be calling him on the shitty way he handled tyhe heckler and not on his joke topic. My beef with some people in the thread is weather they mean it or not, they are endorsing censorship. I'm all for saying Tosh is a moron, but the line for me stops when you even want to think about saying "Rape is a taboo maybe he shouldn't joke about it"

I don't know what you're talking about anymore.
1: I never called for Daniel Tosh to be censored by any official means.
2: By freely expressing an opinion, I am exercising my right to freedom of expression all the same.
3: Yes, I am biased. That is why I have an opinion. I am not a journalist.
4: By expressing my opinion on the use of rape in humor, this does not mean I can or even would do anything to prevent other people from doing so. I simply think it's important for people to hear about this and make up their own minds. Just because other people have opinions doesn't mean I shouldn't debate them or disagree with them. Having a strong dissenting opinion is not equivalent to censorship.
5: Personal Boycotts are not censorship. They are also covered by freedom of expression. I can choose to consume based on metric I choose, because I'm the consumer. If I have a serious personal problem with Rape jokes, then that's how I'll buy media.
6: Trying to convince people to do the same is also not censorship.
7: Wrong "weather"

 

[DudeistBelieve]

More people who think I want to censor comedy.
I don't, I'm just making my opinion known. Besides, HOW could I possibly censor Daniel Tosh? I'm just some guy on the internet. Just because my opinion is opposite doesn't mean that I'm actively trying to keep others from opposing me. I couldn't, even if I wanted to.
Also, it's just a freaking poll on the escapist. It means about as much as a joke on a Popsicle stick...

Ooo nice backpedal.

If you honestly meant it, then go back, re-read your orginal post, and especially that idiot poll you put on it and think about it. Cause if you didn't mean in you sure as hell seemed to say it and were rightfully brought to task for it.

This just "might just be an Escapist poll" but still doesn't excuse shoddy arguements.

tosh was being a dumbass in how he handled a heckler, and people are calling him on it

The line above was from another poster, Iscariot6794. That I agree with. Tosh was an idiot and people should call him on it. But they should be calling him on the shitty way he handled tyhe heckler and not on his joke topic. My beef with some people in the thread is weather they mean it or not, they are endorsing censorship. I'm all for saying Tosh is a moron, but the line for me stops when you even want to think about saying "Rape is a taboo maybe he shouldn't joke about it"

I don't know what you're talking about anymore.
1: I never called for Daniel Tosh to be censored by any official means.
2: By freely expressing an opinion, I am exercising my right to freedom of expression all the same.
3: Yes, I am biased. That is why I have an opinion. I am not a journalist.
4: By expressing my opinion on the use of rape in humor, this does not mean I can or even would do anything to prevent other people from doing so. I simply think it's important for people to hear about this and make up their own minds. Just because other people have opinions doesn't mean I shouldn't debate them or disagree with them. Having a strong dissenting opinion is not equivalent to censorship.
5: Personal Boycotts are not censorship. They are also covered by freedom of expression. I can choose to consume based on metric I choose, because I'm the consumer. If I have a serious personal problem with Rape jokes, then that's how I'll buy media.
6: Trying to convince people to do the same is also not censorship.
7: Wrong "weather"

It's only a boycott if you were actually a frequent watching of Comedy Central or Tosh's show. If you haven't been and are only now going to actively campaign to get the man fired, your are participating in what I define as a "dick move", and is probably loosely censorship.

So we can express our opposing opinion too? Cause the freaking poll you made doesn't have a YES vote. I would call you a hypocrite if I didn't want to risk violating Escapist TOS.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Oh boo hoo a comedian said something you didn't agree with. Daniel Tosh says shit like that. If you're not prepared to hear his type of humor than don't go.

 

[UsefulPlayer 1]

Daniel Tosh is pretty funny. I think his stand up is great, his old stand up even better.

With his show he has pretty much a whole generation of fans. He's not going anywhere but up and I'm pretty glad.

 

[SadakoMoose]

Its funny that you mention that this is "the real world" because the real world is a worse place due to you living in it.

The idea of BRONIES defending the use of gang rape joke to shut up a woman who had a legit complaint is almost as shocking as when I found out that there were Nazi bronies...
Oh god the pain...

A legit complaint that she shouted out in the middle of a crowded theater that was filled with people who paid good money to see a show. She deserved what she got. I don't care if she's offended by rape jokes, because I get that. I don't particularly like them either, but I don't ruin other people's fun to voice that opinion.

And no, I'm not a "men's rights" activist. I recognize men have certain advantages in society, that much is true. But claiming rape is a hate crime against women completely ignores the men who have been victims of rape, which is to me a LOT more offensive than making rape jokes, because now you aren't just making light of it, you're pretending it doesn't exist, which is fucked up. So yea, most rapes happen to women, sure, but that doesn't invalidate the ones that happen to men, and they do happen more often than you would think.

But I am amused that you thought Bronies were somehow above offensive jokes. Like some children's cartoon somehow makes people transform into better people. That's a good one, that is.

Excuse the hell out of me for assuming that fans of a show that hammers in "friendship and understanding" like a jackhammer would also tend to believe in friendship and understanding.
Part of friendship and understanding isn't shutting people up with rape jokes.
I hate to say it, but it's like trying to take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke. You KNOW why you don't so it, and you KNOW why you shouldn't. If you do it anyway, then you're just a racist asshole. Same situation.

Actually Tosh seems like the kind of comic who WOULD take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke, so... I don't really see your point with that. He's offensive, that's his thing. He ain't the only one either. Are you going to crusade against every single comedian that makes jokes about rape? Or racist jokes since you also seem to have a problem with that? Because that includes... just about all of them. Do you hate comedy?

If he did something like THAT, he wouldn't be able to get booked to draw flies to horse crap.
And yes, I'd call him a racist asshole, and I'd make sure everyone knew that he was an asshole. I'd be on the campaign to get him fired. I'd help organize the boycott on comedy central until they stop employing a racist. Yea, I'd definitely go there without a second thought.
I'm not easy to discourage. I'm about as bull headed and stupid as you think I am about this.
But I straight up don't care. Screw Comedy, this is the real world.

Its funny that you mention that this is "the real world" because the real world is a worse place due to you living in it.

LMAO.... ok this is rich. Hey SadakoMoose... do you know what the term hypocrite is? You my fine friend are a huge one. You replied to a post I amde complaining that you weren't all about censoring comics for their acts. And then you post this where you straight up admit it. The fact you'd do everything in your power to silence someone who disagree with, amkes you a censor.

This made me laugh quite a bit...

Please edit this to fix the quote.

The idea of BRONIES defending the use of gang rape joke to shut up a woman who had a legit complaint is almost as shocking as when I found out that there were Nazi bronies...
Oh god the pain...

A legit complaint that she shouted out in the middle of a crowded theater that was filled with people who paid good money to see a show. She deserved what she got. I don't care if she's offended by rape jokes, because I get that. I don't particularly like them either, but I don't ruin other people's fun to voice that opinion.

And no, I'm not a "men's rights" activist. I recognize men have certain advantages in society, that much is true. But claiming rape is a hate crime against women completely ignores the men who have been victims of rape, which is to me a LOT more offensive than making rape jokes, because now you aren't just making light of it, you're pretending it doesn't exist, which is fucked up. So yea, most rapes happen to women, sure, but that doesn't invalidate the ones that happen to men, and they do happen more often than you would think.

But I am amused that you thought Bronies were somehow above offensive jokes. Like some children's cartoon somehow makes people transform into better people. That's a good one, that is.

Excuse the hell out of me for assuming that fans of a show that hammers in "friendship and understanding" like a jackhammer would also tend to believe in friendship and understanding.
Part of friendship and understanding isn't shutting people up with rape jokes.
I hate to say it, but it's like trying to take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke. You KNOW why you don't so it, and you KNOW why you shouldn't. If you do it anyway, then you're just a racist asshole. Same situation.

Actually Tosh seems like the kind of comic who WOULD take the piss out of a black guy with a lynching joke, so... I don't really see your point with that. He's offensive, that's his thing. He ain't the only one either. Are you going to crusade against every single comedian that makes jokes about rape? Or racist jokes since you also seem to have a problem with that? Because that includes... just about all of them. Do you hate comedy?

If he did something like THAT, he wouldn't be able to get booked to draw flies to horse crap.
And yes, I'd call him a racist asshole, and I'd make sure everyone knew that he was an asshole. I'd be on the campaign to get him fired. I'd help organize the boycott on comedy central until they stop employing a racist. Yea, I'd definitely go there without a second thought.
I'm not easy to discourage. I'm about as bull headed and stupid as you think I am about this.
But I straight up don't care. Screw Comedy, this is the real world.

You do realize there are comedians that do that, and still get booked. Heck they get shows. hell, this is Carlos Mencia's whole comedy. And he isn't the only one.

Where the HELL is he getting booked?
Last time I saw, he was hawking weight loss tools on Galavision.
(True story)

 

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LOL ah that Tosh fellow always makes me la.... Wait, the escapist mob is actually calling foul on this? I MEAN! Yeah, that Tosh, what a, what a bastard! How dare he use such a thing. Clearly this should be censored/removed, as it should have never happened! This including any jokes related to sexuality, or sex, or race, or weight. Also, swear words, no one finds any of this funny, we should just pass legislation and ban the lot, obviously unacceptable.

Edit: lol post number 666, that's lucky isn't it?