Poll: Do we nice guys still stand a chance?

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inFAMOUSCowZ

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Really it depends, I'm actually talking to this one girl, and I'm being an arrogant, sarcastic, ass hole ( which I am every day) and she loves it. It adds to my charm. Just be who you are, The thing I learned is that, the girls who really enjoy guys like me, are really only there to have a good time. They cant hold a conversation for shit, but the girls who can catch on, and see tat us assholes, are a bunch of pricks, those are the keepers. They are nice, can talk to you, and if shes cute, then go for it. Me I'll stay with the girls that whore themselves out, untill I get a bit older and want a real relationship.
 

Mr S

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Kalezian said:
Every girl I could of actually said I cared about [both of them] ended up with "jerks".

well, okay, one ended up with a jerk for a while, and is now a single mother, and the other one is with an Emo that could be best described as a puppy, since he needs her attention every second of every day and becomes "depressed" when she even texts her other male friends.

Both gave the same bullshit "how nice of a guy I was", but yet when I asked them out they became someone else entirely.

I gave up on dating, partially because I keep seeing the same trend, be nice to a girl, she falls in love with a jerk, and partially because Im tired of the crap that girls put me through for nothing.

Nice guys, we should just give up and move on in life. Maybe we can finally make the world a better place if we work together.
Yeah this is exactly what happens to me all the time. But enough with the damn self-pity, I'm going to take some f***ing action and take control of the situation. I'm tired of this bullshit. All the chicks I fall in love with are EITHER with someone else, or they do the same thing to me they did to you. I'm completely sick of it. For now I'm gonna put my feelings aside I think, but next time I fall in love I'm gonna do it right. Sick of it!

Crap I actually punched the wall when I read your story because I recognized your situation so vividly, I'm gonna go hold it under cold running water for the next half hour <P
 

TheXRatedDodo

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Just be. Don't be yourself, don't be confident, don't be cool. Just BE. Then, when someone falls for you, they'll be falling for you, rather than a mask.
Those that fall for you will probably be few and far between, but it's worth it.
 

Dags90

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Psycho-Toaster said:
Yay for generalising half the population of the planet!
Women aren't people, they're women. Weird mysterious creatures shrouded in mystery, like the exotic Far East.

The usual, "some nice guys aren't nice and are actually just manipulative jerks" and "some people who may seem like jerks to you are nice to their partners", as well as a good dash of "maybe you're just boring, or too ugly to fuck".

Here's a funny picture.
 

sta697

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you are a complete idiot every girl has diferent standarts.im afraid that by nice guy you mean a complete afraid guy with no passion.if you only meet idiotic girs then change the places you go out and possibly your friends.also not being ugly helps a lot!!!!

im depressed just by being in this forum grow a pair
 

Cap'n Ninja

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SamuelT said:
Alhoewel ik ook zie dat Nederlandse dames vaak voor de bad boy gaan. Toch, er zijn veel die dat niet doen.
HE'S SPEAKING IN TONGUES! KILL IT!

OT: The best way to convey this -in my mind- is that girls like guys who do things that they like.

Personally, I have a very soft spot for nice guys, but what I can't stand is the type of nice guy who won't make a move because he's too afraid, and the self-proclaimed nice guy who complains about how girls all like douches and they don't see how nice he is.
 

La Barata

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Let me give you a bit of an analogy. Remember the story about The Grasshopper and the Ant? How while the ant spent all his time working hard, making sure he was well provided for, being responsible while the grasshopper dicked around and did whatever he felt like? Then, winter came, and the grasshopper's completely fucked. So he comes crawling to the ant, who, depending on the version of the story, either took him in or said "go die in a hole". The grasshopper is a woman, and the ant is a nice guy. The women run about doing whatever and whoever the fuck they feel like while the nice guy does his best to be productive and prepare for the future. Then, all of a sudden, winter will come. The woman will realize she's gotten older, or her douchebag boyfriend will break up with her, or something like that. Then where does she turn? She comes crawling back to the nice guy, who, being a nice guy, will be there for her, be comforting, let her ***** and moan about her ex, or how much everything sucks for little old her. He'll take it and he won't complain, because he's a nice guy. At this point, one of two things will happen. Either she'll finally realize it's a bad fucking idea to date douchebags and assholes and might get together with him (this usually only happens after age 30) or she'll friend zone him so hard his balls fall off, then run off again next spring (new douchebag or old one takes her back), only to do it all over again the next year.
 

Kenbo Slice

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Girls don't understand the difference between being confident and being a douche.
 

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La Barata said:
Let me give you a bit of an analogy. Remember the story about The Grasshopper and the Ant? How while the ant spent all his time working hard, making sure he was well provided for, being responsible while the grasshopper dicked around and did whatever he felt like? Then, winter came, and the grasshopper's completely fucked. So he comes crawling to the ant, who, depending on the version of the story, either took him in or said "go die in a hole". The grasshopper is a woman, and the ant is a nice guy. The women run about doing whatever and whoever the fuck they feel like while the nice guy does his best to be productive and prepare for the future. Then, all of a sudden, winter will come. The woman will realize she's gotten older, or her douchebag boyfriend will break up with her, or something like that. Then where does she turn? She comes crawling back to the nice guy, who, being a nice guy, will be there for her, be comforting, let her ***** and moan about her ex, or how much everything sucks for little old her. He'll take it and he won't complain, because he's a nice guy. At this point, one of two things will happen. Either she'll finally realize it's a bad fucking idea to date douchebags and assholes and might get together with him (this usually only happens after age 30) or she'll friend zone him so hard his balls fall off, then run off again next spring (new douchebag or old one takes her back), only to do it all over again the next year.
Way to clump all women together...

My 2 cents, if a woman says you'd make for the perfect boyfriend/husband, don't even bother.

EDIT: I see the irony in my own post, don't bother quoting me.
 

Dags90

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Fagotto said:
That just sounds like some kind of 'karma' story for some person who felt entitled to a girl's affection since he was being 'nice' (manipulative) and didn't get it.
I'm pretty sure "nice" started meaning "manipulative enabler" sometime in the '80's. You must've missed the memo.
 

Feralcentaur

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Being timid doesn't necessarily mean that you're nice. It just means you're timid.
Redundancy is redundant.
 

Venereus

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Dags90 said:
Psycho-Toaster said:
Yay for generalising half the population of the planet!
Women aren't people, they're women. Weird mysterious creatures shrouded in mystery, like the exotic Far East.

The usual, "some nice guys aren't nice and are actually just manipulative jerks" and "some people who may seem like jerks to you are nice to their partners", as well as a good dash of "maybe you're just boring, or too ugly to fuck".

Here's a funny picture.
Funny picture? That's a universal truth right there.

OT: We're geeks and nerds, what did you expect? I got myself a nice girl because I moved fast for once, not because I stopped being nice. Before that I was too unsure about what I wanted with the girl and ended up in the dreaded Friend Zone for taking too long to make a move, but kinda comfortably, as I was never that interested. When it finally happened, it was because I knew what I wanted, noticed she was also into it, and went for it right away.
 

Mr S

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La Barata said:
Let me give you a bit of an analogy. Remember the story about The Grasshopper and the Ant? How while the ant spent all his time working hard, making sure he was well provided for, being responsible while the grasshopper dicked around and did whatever he felt like? Then, winter came, and the grasshopper's completely fucked. So he comes crawling to the ant, who, depending on the version of the story, either took him in or said "go die in a hole". The grasshopper is a woman, and the ant is a nice guy. The women run about doing whatever and whoever the fuck they feel like while the nice guy does his best to be productive and prepare for the future. Then, all of a sudden, winter will come. The woman will realize she's gotten older, or her douchebag boyfriend will break up with her, or something like that. Then where does she turn? She comes crawling back to the nice guy, who, being a nice guy, will be there for her, be comforting, let her ***** and moan about her ex, or how much everything sucks for little old her. He'll take it and he won't complain, because he's a nice guy. At this point, one of two things will happen. Either she'll finally realize it's a bad fucking idea to date douchebags and assholes and might get together with him (this usually only happens after age 30) or she'll friend zone him so hard his balls fall off, then run off again next spring (new douchebag or old one takes her back), only to do it all over again the next year.
My last fling couldn't stop talking about her exes, it was fucking annoying.
Well, we didn't have a lot in common. Very little actually.
Why did I go out with her again?
 

Dags90

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Mr S said:
My last fling couldn't stop talking about her exes, it was fucking annoying.
Well, we didn't have a lot in common. Very little actually.
Why did I go out with her again?
Maybe you're just attracted to damaged women?

Fixers of both genders drive me up the wall, they're as annoying an immature as the people they're trying to fix and often quite similar.
 

Mr S

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Dags90 said:
Mr S said:
My last fling couldn't stop talking about her exes, it was fucking annoying.
Well, we didn't have a lot in common. Very little actually.
Why did I go out with her again?
Maybe you're just attracted to damaged women?

Fixers of both genders drive me up the wall, they're as annoying an immature as the people they're trying to fix and often quite similar.
Haha, not really.
She just had a great ass.
But right now I'm looking for something more.
I'm looking for something real. Someone to love. Someone to dance with, sit at the fireplace with, watch a movie with, laugh with, talk with, cry with, kiss with, just BE with. If she has a great ass that's a welcome bonus.
 

BiscuitTrouser

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Here's a tip: If you see every timid "nerd" and such forth as a "nice guy" and look down on every other guy you see, chances are you are NOT a nice guy. You're a douche. Also you are in denial. "Women don't like me. I'm nice. Therefore women don't like nice guys". No. That's a silly statement to make. Perhaps these people have something called confidence. Or something else? I'm gonna admit it, I'm not perfect. I'm a nice person in general but yeah. I've hurt my girlfriend before by acting like a twat. I do everything i can to make amends and accept the fact this persona of "nice perfect guy" is a fantasy and a hollow lie. You cannot be that person. You try hard but its impossible. You make mistakes, and suddenly you're that "douche guy" you hated. Its reality. No one is that "nice guy". You aren't a group. There is only one group. Its called "people". The second you accept the fact that maybe. JUST maybe. These people have a quality you do not or, FAR MORE LIKELY, woman have different tastes in men. You can actually try to improve yourself honestly and find a girl.

This isn't at the OP, you seem like a decent guy, this is aimed at the "nice guy" group >.>

There is no rule. Everyone has qualities someone else values. You've decided yours make you a "nice guy" and ended it at that.

Both my relationships have been long lasting and deep, the first at 2 years and the second at 5 months now. I made them both from long lasting friendships. Or someone I've known for AGES I've always had chemistry with in the case of the second one. Go for it. Look at people from different angles.

Captcha: "yourall ours"

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