Poll: Do you agree with the Black Ops Swastika Ban?

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Floppertje

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I'm in favor of banning them. either you are doing it because you think it's cool or because you want to offend people, in which case you deserve to be banned, or because you want to argue that it's used for different things too. the article is right, xbox live is not the place for that. go write a blog or something. either way, it has no place in emblems.
 

The_ModeRazor

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But that would mean you have to ban the Knight's Cross as well, no?
(or was it Iron Cross)
(haven't played a game, dunno if it's in it)
(it looks pretty damn cool)
 

SodaDew

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The Nazi Swastika is a historical icon, just like the hammer and sickle so who care.... its a game
 

Timbydude

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Should they be allowed to implement the ban? Certainly. It's their service, and if you don't like it, you can leave.

Do I agree with their reasoning behind the ban? No; people do find the swastika offensive and I certainly don't support what it stood/stands for, but I think you should just let people do whatever they want in that regard.
 

DazBurger

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I would never agree with any form of censorship...

So here is a picture of some guys huge fucking cock!
 

PleaseDeleteMe

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Ok, Lets be honest here, at least 40% of black ops players are pre-pubescant, they just want to use the Swastika to seem cool, I totally agree with the ban
 

scyrin

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I agree with the ban, but only for the reason that the developers of Call of Duty need a way to cover their asses from the inevitable rage of morons that run our society
 

Metalix Knightmare

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Iwata said:
If you ban the swastika, then you also have to ban the hammer and sickle, no if's, ands or buts. Double standards much?

Um, why? Granted a lot of horrible things were done under Stalin's rule that were actually worse than Hitler's but it's generally not seen as a symbol of genocide or racism which is the whole point of the Swastika ban.
 

Dana22

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Metalix Knightmare said:
Iwata said:
If you ban the swastika, then you also have to ban the hammer and sickle, no if's, ands or buts. Double standards much?

Um, why? Granted a lot of horrible things were done under Stalin's rule that were actually worse than Hitler's but it's generally not seen as a symbol of genocide or racism which is the whole point of the Swastika ban.
Because communism was also a totalitarian system, just as nazism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes

Now Im personally against the ban, because Im an advocate for freedom of speech. But if you ban this, you should ban everything related.
 

Yagharek

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They shouldn't censor it. It just shows massive double standards, given what is and isn't censored.

Also, to those of you arguing "But hitler was the worst guy ever thus..." unless you really know the facts(i.e, are qualified enough to show that your opinion is informed) then this is just foolish. Yes, he was a terrible person. However, he is not unique in this, and I have seen it argued that other people(usually stalin) were just as bad, and as I recall they weren't weak arguments. I am not claiming to know all the facts, which is why I am not arguing one way or the other.

However, that is all completely irrelevant. Even if Hitler was "worse" than Stalin, where is the line. Are you saying that Stalins attrocties were not bad enough to warrant censorship while Hitlers were? How many millions must someone kill before they deserve censorship?

The argument that the symbol only represents the nazis is similarly flawed. At what stage is a synbol more associated with one thing than any other? This will also vary widely.

At the end of the day, any such decision over what is censored is very arbitrary. There are a huge number of groups in history who have done terrible things, and an equally huge number of symbols associated with them. Should the British flag be banned as a result of colonialism?

They let you have a gun as a symbol. This is something designed purely for one intention: to kill people, and has undoubtedly killed more people than any single regime. And yet, the game is about guns. You carry a gun for the overwhelming majority of the game. Banning it would be idiotic.

Any censorship is essentially arbitrary and pointless. They should either allow no emblems(a limited choice is essentially pre-emptive censorship, so unless they remove anything remotely offensive, it's a bit silly), or complete customisation.
 

Ickorus

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I don't care but if I had to make a choice i'd say I agree with it, it's in pretty bad taste.
 

Iwata

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Metalix Knightmare said:
Iwata said:
If you ban the swastika, then you also have to ban the hammer and sickle, no if's, ands or buts. Double standards much?

Um, why? Granted a lot of horrible things were done under Stalin's rule that were actually worse than Hitler's but it's generally not seen as a symbol of genocide or racism which is the whole point of the Swastika ban.
Yeah, and why not? Your guess is as good as mine. My point is, if we're banning symbols for their political significance, then one's as good as the next.
 

Yagharek

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Metalix Knightmare said:
Iwata said:
If you ban the swastika, then you also have to ban the hammer and sickle, no if's, ands or buts. Double standards much?

Um, why? Granted a lot of horrible things were done under Stalin's rule that were actually worse than Hitler's but it's generally not seen as a symbol of genocide or racism which is the whole point of the Swastika ban.
This probably varies considerably depending on where you live. I'm sure there are plenty of people who hate that symbol.
 

scyrin

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ok i think i'm wrong about this but just to make sure...

isn't the peace symbol that looks like the swastika spinning the opposite direction?
 

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EinTheCorgi said:
Ranorak said:
EinTheCorgi said:
as ive said before take care of the porn people first then get on the "nazis" of hell the KKK and all those other tards
Yeah!

Screw the symbol that represents the death of millions.
Showing a body part is far more offensive.
*face palm* the swastika is just a symbol i can understand banning Hitlers face or something but the symbol is also used by the budist or hindo religion...The more you know
Of course it's also used by the Buddhists and Hindu religion.
But do you honestly think most people that use the swastika on Black Ops use it with those meanings in mind?

Of course not, it's just there to be "edgy" or "funny".
 

DSK-

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I agree with it slightly. Some people are going to find it offensive, some will find it hilarious and some won't give a monkey's.

However having said that they should also ban other profane emblems like people have already mentioned.