Poll: Do you believe in aliens?
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Of course, God surely must have another saved game...
But anyway, it would be strange if we were alone in the universe.
But anyway, it would be strange if we were alone in the universe.
I reckon there is some form of other life, but so far away that we won't make contact any time soon. That's what I believe.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that there is no other life in the universe, that this planet is the only one that just happened to get the right conditions to support life. Now is this life intelligent? Who knows. Have aliens ever made contact with us? I doubt that seriously. Even if there was intelligent life in the universe capable of interstellar travel why would it need to make contact with us? Think about it, if an alien species is capable to engineer a craft that could successfully travel through space wouldn't they be able to create some sort of technology capable of studying us without the need to come down to our planet?
To say that we're the only planet with life on it would be utterly ridiculous, the universe is so much bigger than any of us could comprehend; to me, it just doesn't seem plausable that we're the only intelligent life in the universe.
If life can exist on this planet there is no logical reason to suggest it can't on other planets. Don't forget, it doesn't have to be complex life like humans, and they don't have to be made up like life onearth. It is possible that there is some type of life on another planet somewhere that doesn't need to breathe or have blood in the same ways we do, and that can live in conditions that are impossible for us to live in.
Anyone who simply says "no" is the fool at the other end; however, firmly saying "yes" is silly too due to lack of proof.
Anyone who simply says "no" is the fool at the other end; however, firmly saying "yes" is silly too due to lack of proof.
At this point in time, nobody knows for sure, but I think there's a good chance we aren't the only life in the universe. We're limited as humans, though, to human perception. We may run across intelligent life out there that we don't recognise as such because of the way we define life and intelligence. That could be a very interesting and dangerous mistake.
There's a very small chance of it, but I'm confident there is life somewhere out there. It might not be intelligent, but it's there.
Technically, science has at least proved the existence of life elsewhere when they found RNA (Like DNA, but more basic) in the core of an asteroid that hit australia in 1969. They proved it came from elsewhere in space in mid-'08.
Thinking Earth is the only planet with life on it is just as egocentric as thinking the Sun revolves around the Earth.
Whether it's possible to travel across the vast distances to contact that other life is another matter entirely. I will remain skeptical of alien visitation on Earth until I have serious proof because as best as we can tell, that kind of travel is not possible.
Whether it's possible to travel across the vast distances to contact that other life is another matter entirely. I will remain skeptical of alien visitation on Earth until I have serious proof because as best as we can tell, that kind of travel is not possible.
Willing visitation is doubtful, but from this discovery, [http://evolutiondiary.com/2008/06/20/meteorites-brought-dna-ancestors-to-earth-study-says/] it is an entirely valid theory that our evolutionary building blocks were brought here via the meteorite express.
Ok. Here's the thing... The Universe is so large that you have to assume that there is life beyond our Earth. However, it is quite likely that 'they' are so far away that:
- our civilization will end before we ever make contact with them (i.e. trapped on Earth as the Sun turns into a Red Giant)
- our species will die out, or be usurped by another predator/virus (i.e. we prove not to be the "fittest" and fall foul of Natural Selection)
- one of the above happens to the civilization/species we were about to encounter (i.e. the best we might expect is Archaeological remains)
- the aliens may have evolved from such strange initial conditions that we may not recognize them as alive (i.e. they seem like rocks, or gas)
- or... it takes so damn long for us to make contact that we evolve/transform ourselves out of all recognition...
...the significance of this last option is that if we were to meet our future transformed selves we would regard them as alien, so in other words "us meeting aliens" may be something of a moot point, because we will have become alienated from our current selves.
- our civilization will end before we ever make contact with them (i.e. trapped on Earth as the Sun turns into a Red Giant)
- our species will die out, or be usurped by another predator/virus (i.e. we prove not to be the "fittest" and fall foul of Natural Selection)
- one of the above happens to the civilization/species we were about to encounter (i.e. the best we might expect is Archaeological remains)
- the aliens may have evolved from such strange initial conditions that we may not recognize them as alive (i.e. they seem like rocks, or gas)
- or... it takes so damn long for us to make contact that we evolve/transform ourselves out of all recognition...
...the significance of this last option is that if we were to meet our future transformed selves we would regard them as alien, so in other words "us meeting aliens" may be something of a moot point, because we will have become alienated from our current selves.
No, it's not a valid argument at all.kellenheller said:Your opinion. It's wrong, but it's your opinion. It still doesn't change the fact that it is a valid argument and that you didn't bother to answer the question.Inverse Skies said:
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Not saying that as a shot, just saying you didn't answer the question.
Let's imagine we are having an election. The number of voters is not the population of America, or the population of the world, but something like 50 times that. So we are having an election with two candidates and 600000000000000000000000000 voters.... and to see which will win we do a poll.
A poll... of one single person.
And that person doesn't really know.
Now you have some idea of the absurdity of claiming one way or the other if there is life elsewhere. We have exactly one example of life in the universe - Earth. And we don't even know how it got started here. If anyone then says it must (or must not) exist elsewhere they are really just talking crap. Having an opinion is fine and dandy but there isn't any fact to back it up.
There is statistical probability friend. While this doesn't prove anything it does change the odds. If you calculate all everything that is required to sustain life, the probability of it occuring naturally, and then expand to take into account the size of the universe, well the odds for and against change.
That's like saying there is a 50/50 chance god does or does not exist. If I were to say to you that there are dancing pink elephants on pluto that throw pony jams you can't say with 100% that there arn't because you can't provide any evidence against it. What you can do is look at statistical probabilities to reach a logical conclussion.
That's like saying there is a 50/50 chance god does or does not exist. If I were to say to you that there are dancing pink elephants on pluto that throw pony jams you can't say with 100% that there arn't because you can't provide any evidence against it. What you can do is look at statistical probabilities to reach a logical conclussion.
I'm a believer. In fact, I think I was visited by one once. Not abducted or anything, but it was one of those "out of the corner of my eye" glimpses. Except this one was in the reflection of my glasses.