Poll: Do you believe in the "below the belt" rule?

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BlackStar42

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Only in a situation where you or a loved one is in physical peril is it acceptable to hit a dude in the balls. Him about to knock you out qualifies, in my opinion.
 

Android2137

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If this was a sparing match or a martial arts tournament, I wouldn't. That's not an honorable way to win. However, in the scenario you mentioned, I would without hesitation. It's self defense, not a sporting competition.
 

D33dl3

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loc978 said:
Well... I just don't do that. Fighting over words is idiotic. Let anyone think what they will, I'm not going out to that parking lot. If he lays hands on me in the bar, I'd escalate things immediately and go for a maiming strike. If things get serious, I'll have to pull my .45. I'm a firm believer in a polite, armed society.
That's just how I am. If it's not worth killing for, it's not worth fighting for.
so kicking his balls is out of order .... but shooting is ok .....
 

loc978

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D33dl3 said:
loc978 said:
Well... I just don't do that. Fighting over words is idiotic. Let anyone think what they will, I'm not going out to that parking lot. If he lays hands on me in the bar, I'd escalate things immediately and go for a maiming strike. If things get serious, I'll have to pull my .45. I'm a firm believer in a polite, armed society.
That's just how I am. If it's not worth killing for, it's not worth fighting for.
so kicking his balls is out of order .... but shooting is ok .....
Nope. Kicking his balls is actually one possible preamble to the maiming strike I mentioned (knee balls, gouge eyes... knife-hand throat, break knee... et cetera). The notion of a "fair fight" is what's out of order. What I meant by "I just don't do that" is take a fight outside like some alpha male jackoff from a movie.
 

Jackhorse

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I want my enemies to believe it and believe I do too. However one problem with going for the groin in a dirty fight is that men will protect it like their lives depend on it, so unless they're not expecting the move it's pretty much useless.

As Sun Tzu said "Indicate west, strike east"

or in other words "Indicate fair, strike balls"
 

KilloZapit

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Combat is, I think, often a delicate escalation of threats. You start with words, escalate to fists, maybe go to knives or guns if it is violent enough. If your willing to break commonly agreed on "rules" you are almost always going to escalate the fight, and risk such tactics being used on you. It might be less painful to just take a punch or two and fold then risk escalation. But if your pretty sure it's not going to matter, then you should be prepared to do anything you need to do.
 

Treblaine

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it's a variation of the Prisoner's dilemma:

Option 1: fight to a draw, both leave bruised but balls intact

option 2: I bust his balls, and score an easy victory

Option 3: he pounds my balls without me planning to, I lose and lose my balls

Option 4: We both brutalise each others balls and both lose... our balls.


Richard Dawkin's actually ran detailed computer models to investigate this (not ball blasting, but prisoner' dilemma in general).

He concluded the best strategy is to play nice initially but if they try to screw you (ball shot) you respond in kind but ONLY FOR ONE TURN! That is if they hit your balls, you are only entitled to hit them in the balls once again, not over and over again,

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The idea is as a net you come out better as it is better to draw most matches both sets of balls intact, because at the end of the day it's more important to protect your balls than bust other people's balls. I'll just leave this with you.

 

TheHitcher

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Even if you say you wouldn't through some misguided sense of morals, chances are, in that situation you would in a heartbeat. No one wants to be knocked out like that. You'd do almost anything to stop it happening, it's human reaction.
 

Jamous

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Oh, ok. I thought you were talking about competitive fighting, like Taekwon-Do or something. In this sort of situation there really are no rules. Except physics, and we're working on that one.
LadyMint said:
I've really only heard the "below the belt" rule for fighting sport matches like boxing. When some guy is about to stomp you into the street, you do whatever's necessary to prevent that from happening.
^ Says it better than me, I believe.
 

DarkShadow144

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I've gone for the balls before. Just a swift kick and they are down. The way I see it, if I can finish a fight in one hit, go for it.
 

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Real combat has no rules and no sense of morals. If fighting dirty is the only way to win in a fight then I'll get down with the pigs.
 

cardinalwiggles

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personally i'd move out my archers from the top of the hill and then run in with the yari ashigaru units.

oh wait have i been playing too much shogun 2: total war?

OT: i personally wouldn't because then it justifies his use in the same technique. and he was bigger than me, chances are his kick would knock the things in that region up
 

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kortin said:
Well, I don't know the literal name of the rule, but basically it states, when fighting, you never hit below the other person's waistline.

So heres a scenario:

You were out at some bar late at night. There was a misunderstanding with the really big guy next to you, next thing you know, you're out in the parking lot fighting. Not only is this guy huge, but he really knows how to fight and is much better than you. He winds up to deal a blow that you just know would knock you out instantly and there is no way for you to dodge it. He made a mistake however, and leaves his groin area wide open. If you kick him there, he won't land the blow, and you would have basically won. Do you go for the opportunity?

I, personally, would. Being knocked out is not very fun.

Edit: Added a few more options to the poll
Edit2: I realize that a kick in the balls is not the "I win" button. We'll assume that it IS an "I win" button for the scenario.

For Shame! Unless it is a serious situation in which I'm being ganged up on then I would not hit anyone below the belt

I fight with a sense of honor. Mostly because I've sparred with my friends and we always aim for the face or upper body, but we do go for the legs as well. So unless I'm in serious trouble, then I resort to that measure.
 

KiraTaureLor

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kortin said:
Well, I don't know the literal name of the rule, but basically it states, when fighting, you never hit below the other person's waistline.

So heres a scenario:

You were out at some bar late at night. There was a misunderstanding with the really big guy next to you, next thing you know, you're out in the parking lot fighting. Not only is this guy huge, but he really knows how to fight and is much better than you. He winds up to deal a blow that you just know would knock you out instantly and there is no way for you to dodge it. He made a mistake however, and leaves his groin area wide open. If you kick him there, he won't land the blow, and you would have basically won. Do you go for the opportunity?

I, personally, would. Being knocked out is not very fun.

Edit: Added a few more options to the poll
Edit2: I realize that a kick in the balls is not the "I win" button. We'll assume that it IS an "I win" button for the scenario.
It's a street fight, not boxing. There are no rules regardless weather you started the fight or not.
 

BabySinclair

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Um... if he's winding up that much I jab to his throat and and it anyways. Also I can just dodge the attack anyways, why is the option of you know, defending one's self not available. There are much better places to hit anyways, inside of his punching arm, solar plexus, throat, kidneys... but maybe that's just because I have more street applicable hand-to-hand training.
 

AssassinJoe

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Man, I'd take the punch like a man. I got myself into the fight, I'm not gonna cheapshot my way out.
 

kortin

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KiraTaureLor said:
kortin said:
Well, I don't know the literal name of the rule, but basically it states, when fighting, you never hit below the other person's waistline.

So heres a scenario:

You were out at some bar late at night. There was a misunderstanding with the really big guy next to you, next thing you know, you're out in the parking lot fighting. Not only is this guy huge, but he really knows how to fight and is much better than you. He winds up to deal a blow that you just know would knock you out instantly and there is no way for you to dodge it. He made a mistake however, and leaves his groin area wide open. If you kick him there, he won't land the blow, and you would have basically won. Do you go for the opportunity?

I, personally, would. Being knocked out is not very fun.

Edit: Added a few more options to the poll
Edit2: I realize that a kick in the balls is not the "I win" button. We'll assume that it IS an "I win" button for the scenario.
It's a street fight, not boxing. There are no rules regardless weather you started the fight or not.
Indeed. I'm partly asking because I want to see how many people have a sense of honor in a fight; To see how many people will fight by predetermined rules that they have set aside for themselves to follow. There are a lot more reasons I ask this than I let you on to. :)