Poll: Do you believe Kinect will hurt the Wii?

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mrpmpfan

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After playing with the Kinect at Mall of America I can not see why someone would want to use controllers in conjunction with motion based gaming where as Kinect just used your body.
 

Dxz5roxg

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The Wii hasn't been doing as good as it was so anything will have an effect on it. The real question is whether or not people will want to spend all the money on a Xbox ( if they don't have one ) and the $150 Kinect.
 

Mr. Grey

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Kinect has hit a few snags lately. Some that are fairly concerning, such as it has trouble picking up anything in the shade of black or that it can't understand skirts and baggy clothing. It also has that price to consider, and the fact that I don't believe any of the old Xbox 360s are compatible with it, just the new one -- again, I don't know for sure regarding that. but it is compatible with the old Xbox 360.

Then there is the fact that the Wii has hit its mark and left victorious as Sony and Microsoft just finally showed up for the competition. So it's already sold as much as it is going to and any damage done to it will be minimal. They've already moved on to start making the 3DS. Nintendo is done and bored with this, from what I can tell.
 

Gigano

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As a competing product within motion controls, it's bound to take away some sales. Wii was (also) meant to be a secondary console, and anyone with an Xbox 360 (and soon PS3) is bound to consider Kinect as an alternative. If I should gain an interest in motion control, I'd now sooner considering picking up the Playstation Move for my PS3 rather than a Wii.

If it's more stable in tracking movements than the Wii, then it might even dig into the sale of primary Wii's as well. Though there's still a conderable price gap if you don't already have an Xbox 360.
 

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Mr. Grey said:
and the fact that I don't believe any of the old Xbox 360s are compatible with it, just the new one -- again, I don't know for sure regarding that.
That part is incorrect, I believe it needs something extra to work properly (something included with a Kinect purchase presumably, might only be the requirement for an additional power supply), but it is compatible
 

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I don't think it will really.
Shouldn't most people who are interested in buying a Wii have one already? It's not really expensive compared to the xbox and ps3.
 

Dxz5roxg

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SteelStallion said:
Dxz5roxg said:
The Wii hasn't been doing as good as it was so anything will have an effect on it. The real question is whether or not people will want to spend all the money on a Xbox ( if they don't have one ) and the $150 Kinect.
It's $299 for a Kinect/Xbox Slim bundle, which is pretty reasonable.

While I hate the fact that Microsoft and Sony are just being bandwagoners, I've got faith in Kinect. Some good could come out of that thing, at least it's a step forward.
I hadn't heard about a bundle. That's pretty good. But it's still $100 more than the Wii.
 

Mr. Grey

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Jadak said:
Mr. Grey said:
and the fact that I don't believe any of the old Xbox 360s are compatible with it, just the new one -- again, I don't know for sure regarding that.
That part is incorrect, I believe it needs something extra to work properly (something included with a Kinect purchase presumably), but it is compatible
Ah okay, I was just trying to figure out why the new Xbox 360 had that sticker saying it was compatible with it. I mean, built in parts made sense, but it never mentioned that so it left me wondering just how hard are they trying to sell the new Xbox 360. It wouldn't have been the first time a company pulled that schtick.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 

mrpmpfan

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Mr. Grey said:
Kinect has hit a few snags lately. Some that are fairly concerning, such as it has trouble picking up anything in the shade of black or that it can't understand skirts and baggy clothing. It also has that price to consider and the fact that I don't believe any of the old Xbox 360s are compatible with it, just the new one -- again, I don't know for sure regarding that.

Then there is the fact that the Wii has hit its mark and left victorious as Sony and Microsoft just finally showed up for the competition. So it's already sold as much as it is going to and any damage done to it will be minimal. They've already moved on to start making the 3DS. Nintendo is done and bored with this, from what I can tell.
I have no idea where you came up with the notion it can't detect black clothing, or that baggy clothing had an effect. The system tracks skeletal movement even in low light. I was in the middle of Mall of America and it detected me fine even with a bunch of shit going on behind me.

The old Xboxs are compatible with Kinect the Kinect camera will just need an additional power supply as oppose to the new Xboxs which can power the device.

Nintendo isn't so much done and bored with motion controls they just started with severally limited hardware and have nowhere to move. Nintendo has been ripping off gamers, my favorite example is how they re-released Pikmin with no improvements other than pointer controls and charged $50! They even re-released Congo Bongos...without the Bongos...

Microsoft is doing what they do best. They might not innovate but instead they carefully watch the competition and then find a way to improve upon what they have done and blow them out of the water.
 

mrpmpfan

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Dxz5roxg said:
I hadn't heard about a bundle. That's pretty good. But it's still $100 more than the Wii.
That might be true but for that extra $100 you are getting HD gaming, a back catalog of amazing games and future amazing games. Also for $50 a year you will get the best online system ever. No more fucking friend codes.
 

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mrpmpfan said:
That might be true but for that extra $100 you are getting HD gaming, a back catalog of amazing games
None of which are compatible with Kinect, making the point moot as well as incredibly subjective.

and future amazing games.
Prove they will be amazing.

Also for $50 a year you will get the best online system ever.
You confuse fact with your opinions. Personally I like Nintendo's online system because for most of their games, you don't actually need friend codes in order to just go online and play...and it doesn't cost money to play a game I've already paid for.

I think that neither Kinect nor Move will be as successful as the Wii's successor, which Nintendo will announce shortly after the launch of the 3DS.
 

Mr. Grey

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mrpmpfan said:
Mr. Grey said:
Kinect has hit a few snags lately. Some that are fairly concerning, such as it has trouble picking up anything in the shade of black or that it can't understand skirts and baggy clothing. It also has that price to consider and the fact that I don't believe any of the old Xbox 360s are compatible with it, just the new one -- again, I don't know for sure regarding that.

Then there is the fact that the Wii has hit its mark and left victorious as Sony and Microsoft just finally showed up for the competition. So it's already sold as much as it is going to and any damage done to it will be minimal. They've already moved on to start making the 3DS. Nintendo is done and bored with this, from what I can tell.
[1]I have no idea where you came up with the notion it can't detect black clothing, or that baggy clothing had an effect. The system tracks skeletal movement even in low light. I was in the middle of Mall of America and it detected me fine even with a bunch of shit going on behind me.

[2]The old Xboxs are compatible with Kinect the Kinect camera will just need an additional power supply as oppose to the new Xboxs which can power the device.

[3]Nintendo isn't so much done and bored with motion controls they just started with severally limited hardware and have nowhere to move. Nintendo has been ripping off gamers, my favorite example is how they re-released Pikmin with no improvements other than pointer controls and charged $50! They even re-released Congo Bongos...without the Bongos...

[4]Microsoft is doing what they do best. They might not innovate but instead they carefully watch the competition and then find a way to improve upon what they have done and blow them out of the water.
1. There was that Angry Joe video where the staff member himself said that it had trouble detecting darker clothes and Angry Joe happened to be dressed as a Dark Jedi, so if he had trouble it was because of that. Then there was that news bit where it explained you couldn't wear long skirts or baggy clothes. [http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox-360/news/kinect-long-skirt-incompatible.html]

2. That was cleared up, and I corrected my post. It was something I assumed and thought I read, like where you think you misplaced your car keys and you can imagine it being there.

3. They basically picked up their old Power Glove and made it exceptionally better -- it really couldn't get any worse. Then released an add-on to the Wiimote to make it better, then they got bored and moved on to the 3DS. Whether or not they rip people off isn't my concern, that's just business. Just like beating people to the punch, no matter how limited they start off.

4. This is a statement a fanboy makes.
 

MaVeN1337

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I don't really think it will hurt the wii.

I feel like it will however, Injure the whole industry, Yahtzee was right about the immersion aspect.
 

ScruffyTheJanitor

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People won't switch just to gett kinect. They have the wii and are either happy with it.... and don't see the point in moving, or they are disappointed... and therefore have probably been put off the whole "move around to not die" procedure. Both end of the spectrum are more than likely not going to switch over to kinect and buy an xbox for it.

However, kinect will take in a number of newer members to the party. The price tag though.. is the price tag of a wii... So it's not quite a fair matchup from that perspective.

Kinect I can see doing well.. but it won't sink the nintendo urine.
 

mrpmpfan

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tomtom94 said:
mrpmpfan said:
That might be true but for that extra $100 you are getting HD gaming, a back catalog of amazing games
None of which are compatible with Kinect, making the point moot as well as incredibly subjective.

and future amazing games.
Prove they will be amazing.

Also for $50 a year you will get the best online system ever.
You confuse fact with your opinions. Personally I like Nintendo's online system because for most of their games, you don't actually need friend codes in order to just go online and play...and it doesn't cost money to play a game I've already paid for.

I think that neither Kinect nor Move will be as successful as the Wii's successor, which Nintendo will announce shortly after the launch of the 3DS.
I didn't say the back catalog was compatible with Kinect however when buying the bundle you not only get Kinect but you get the Xbox 360 which has proven itself to have a great list of titles. Also I don't have to prove to you that Fable 3 is amazing, play Fable 2 and come back to me. Name me even 3 titles that have no friend codes system and allows you to play right away. Also what do you use for a microphone on the Wii to communicate with those you play with online?
 

Woodsey

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Not really.

I can't see casuals buying a 360 to get Kinect, I can only see people who own a 360 already buying Kinect. And from the looks of things, most of us don't want it.

I choose "fuck motion controls".
 

Volafortis

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The Wii has already done too well to be "hurt" by it.

I do, however, think it will do better than Move. If people wanted a black Wii, they'd just buy one. Kinect at least is somewhat different.