Poll: Do you believe Kinect will hurt the Wii?

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tomtom94

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mrpmpfan said:
tomtom94 said:
mrpmpfan said:
That might be true but for that extra $100 you are getting HD gaming, a back catalog of amazing games
None of which are compatible with Kinect, making the point moot as well as incredibly subjective.

and future amazing games.
Prove they will be amazing.

Also for $50 a year you will get the best online system ever.
You confuse fact with your opinions. Personally I like Nintendo's online system because for most of their games, you don't actually need friend codes in order to just go online and play...and it doesn't cost money to play a game I've already paid for.

I think that neither Kinect nor Move will be as successful as the Wii's successor, which Nintendo will announce shortly after the launch of the 3DS.
I didn't say the back catalog was compatible with Kinect however when buying the bundle you not only get Kinect but you get the Xbox 360 which has proven itself to have a great list of titles.
So has the Wii.

Also I don't have to prove to you that Fable 3 is amazing, play Fable 2 and come back to me.
Again, subjective, I've played the original Fable and it was so-so. Enough to put me off any sequel.

Also what do you use for a microphone on the Wii to communicate with those you play with online?
WiiSpeak is the Wii's equivalent of a microphone.

Name me even 3 titles that have no friend codes system and allows you to play right away.
Okay, so the games have friend codes - why is that such a big deal? Seriously?
 

Troels Pleimert

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I picked "fuck motion gaming," and I'm a "proud" Wii owner.

Motion gaming is fun for gimmicks and parties, but never for games. And for that reason, I predict neither success nor failure for the Kinect, Move or indeed the entire Wii console.

In fact, I'd be more likely to predict that more people in general would buy game consoles because it has finally moved beyond the confines of nerd dwellers like myself and other "gamers" into the realm of family accepted fun which will inevitably create a great divide between the "casual" and "hardcore" gamer which will be remembered in ten years time about as fondly as the "bit wars" of the 90's ... if, in fact, all of this hadn't already happened.
 

TylerC

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I should think not, because of Nintendo's franchises, like Mario, Metroid, Legend of Zelda, etc.

Me? I'd rather play with a mouse and keyboard or a gamepad than anything else.
 

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The undiscerning casual will simply buy a wii pack for 200 and will be content with it. They'll ignore the 300 kinect deal.

The core gamer will simply ignore motion controls.

Kinect (and sony move also) is just in the wrong place. It's too expensive for casuals and doesn't do anything for core gamers.
 

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I read this thread and was left with one sentiment.

Welcome to Fanboy Town
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fix-the-spade

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No, it's about five years too late to hurt the Wii, the Wii has already been a phenomenal success, hit saturation point and is on the downward arc of it's product lifespan. This has already all happened while Microsoft were twiddling there thumbs and wanking off to Mr Molyneux's song.

Asking if Kinect is going to hurt the Wii or Nintendo is like asking if Barack Obama will hurt Ronald Reagan's re-election campaign.
 

Reenix

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No, it's about five years too late to hurt the Wii, the Wii has already been a phenomenal success, hit saturation point and is on the downward arc of it's product lifespan. This has already all happened while Microsoft were twiddling there thumbs and wanking off to Mr Molyneux's song.

Asking if Kinect is going to hurt the Wii or Nintendo is like asking if Barack Obama will hurt Ronald Reagan's re-election campaign.
I'm not so sure about that. While it is true that the Wii may have hit saturation point, that doesn't necessarily mean that the Wii motion controls are going to made redundant; the Wii probably has at least a year of life before they stop making games - hell, look at the DS.

Kinect, being obviously superior to the Wii's janky motion sensor system, may make causal gamers gravitate towards the Xbox 360 instead of the Wii. Hopefully this will then motivate Nintendo to make DECENT motion games or just scrap the gimmick altogether and bring out a decent Paper Mario sequel.
 

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I predict a fall into obscurity of it. I've not heard of any games as of yet that hasn't really had an equivalent elsewhere (not that the games for it seem to be that much talked about... lol).
There needs to be more "wow, not seen that on the Wii" games for it imo before it can make a dent anywhere. I imagine some people will look at it, look at their Wii, dust off said Wii and use it for a couple of months, before putting it back in the cupboard.
I honestly don't care if it does well or not, but the outlook just doesn't seem promising. Yes, some will sell, but mainly to current Xbox owners I should imagine, rather than new owners.
As many have said, it's most likely too late for it to affect the sales of the Wii in a meaningful manner - everyone I know who talked about getting a Wii now has one. Definitely a case of being late to the party, especially if it's flawed, as World+Dog will be comparing it to the Wii.
 

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For $380, you can get a Wii and four Wiimotes and Nunchucks. The Wii already has an established number of games under it's belt (even if there aren't many) and if you have a friend with the extra controllers you don't need to worry about some of the extras. The Kinect will cost current 360 Owners $150 and people who don't yet have it $400. By the sound of it, current 360 owners do not, for the most part, have any real interest in motion gaming. Family's who want games like this are going to spend less on the Wii and already know about it. I don't think Kinect will do well at all. It would need to drop in price and get a good number of games. If people aren't buying it, developers won't make games for it so I don't see it doing a lot until the price drops.
 

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LOL@'F**k Motion Gaming'. Why? How about "F**k pop music/family movies/romance novels/Snap/Old Maid/white chocolate/tofu?" Isn't the world big enough for everybody to be happy?

But anyway, I don't think that Kinect OR Move will dent Wii sales. Why? Because the attraction of Wii still hasn't changed and for that audience, the motion controls are NOT the deciding factor for purchasing into it. The detracting factors for Xbox 360 and Ps3 still haven't changed in fact, the addition of another control scheme and line of games and services has only made those systems less attractive for Wii's core market. Motion controls don't make the technology more affordable or more importantly, less mystifying for those poeple. And before somebody leaps down my throat, let me just say that the core Wii demographic want game consoles as easy as a DVD player to get into (or as close to it). Wii checks quite a few less 'huh??!' boxes, so to speak.
 

Troels Pleimert

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Reenix said:
I'm not so sure about that. While it is true that the Wii may have hit saturation point, that doesn't necessarily mean that the Wii motion controls are going to made redundant; the Wii probably has at least a year of life before they stop making games - hell, look at the DS.
I see where you're going with this. I am intrigued. Keep going ... keep going ...

Kinect, being obviously superior to the Wii's [...]
Ah, you lost me. So close and yet so far away. Unsubstantiated blanket statements: how to immediately turn off your readers.
 

Reenix

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Troels Pleimert said:
Reenix said:
I'm not so sure about that. While it is true that the Wii may have hit saturation point, that doesn't necessarily mean that the Wii motion controls are going to made redundant; the Wii probably has at least a year of life before they stop making games - hell, look at the DS.
I see where you're going with this. I am intrigued. Keep going ... keep going ...

Kinect, being obviously superior to the Wii's [...]
Ah, you lost me. So close and yet so far away. Unsubstantiated blanket statements: how to immediately turn off your readers.
I'm basing this on the fact that many Wii users that I know have problems with the motion controls. The Wii Motion Plus just adds insult to inconvenience, as it's an expensive addition that should have been included in the package initially.

If the Kinect is anything like its E3 unveiling then I think it'd be better than the Wiimote by FAR. I cannot ABIDE the Wiimote.

There's my substantiation. Biased but experienced.
 

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I think that Nintendo is losing customers soon anyways because of their phenomenal game figures so far. You know, if everyone has a wii, it's difficult to sell em another.
 

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I do not think it will make much of a difference. I do not see many people specifically searching for motion gaming, or if they did, would have bought a Wii. And, as mentioned by someone earlier, the Wii has existed for alot longer, and has already made plenty of sales.
 

seditary

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Reenix said:
Troels Pleimert said:
Reenix said:
I'm not so sure about that. While it is true that the Wii may have hit saturation point, that doesn't necessarily mean that the Wii motion controls are going to made redundant; the Wii probably has at least a year of life before they stop making games - hell, look at the DS.
I see where you're going with this. I am intrigued. Keep going ... keep going ...

Kinect, being obviously superior to the Wii's [...]
Ah, you lost me. So close and yet so far away. Unsubstantiated blanket statements: how to immediately turn off your readers.
I'm basing this on the fact that many Wii users that I know have problems with the motion controls. The Wii Motion Plus just adds insult to inconvenience, as it's an expensive addition that should have been included in the package initially.

If the Kinect is anything like its E3 unveiling then I think it'd be better than the Wiimote by FAR. I cannot ABIDE the Wiimote.

There's my substantiation. Biased but experienced.
Are you on drugs? Wii users that have problems with motion controls are going to buy a 360 + Kinect?

And you thought the E3 unveiling was good in any way?

/boggle