Poll: Do you care about realism??
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First off I'm going to ignore your ignorant comments about needing help on my outlook on life when you didn't clearly the message in my post and like to look down on people from your pseudo-pedestal. The first guy who created a video game wasn't thinking."Hey I like football so let me make it less fun and make a video game out of it were people sit down and just use there hands as a way to play". No the first games didnt have anything to do with any sports maybe besides pong if you consider that a sport. The first games had characters to play with not athletes to catch balls when you could simply go outside and do it.derelix said:
My $0.02? Realism can kiss off. I just want willing suspension of disbelief, good plot, and good gameplay.
I'd go so far as to say there is an uncanny valley for realism. Now, before I begin, I'd like to say in all things this is a case where Your Mileage May Vary. What a person finds unappealing do to its "realism" or lack thereof is entirely idiosyncratic. My opinions about what is in the "realism uncanny valley" are valid only for me. The idea I'm stressing is that I think there -is- a "realism uncanny valley."
If a game tries too hard to be realistic, then it can wind up falling on its ass if someone who is actually familiar with the topic plays it. For example, both Mass Effect and Metal Gear Solid are full of nonsense, but I can buy it from Mass Effect. The MGS series tries to bill itself as a serious work and explain everything away, so suddenly my rational brain starts working. The bio-and-military BS grate my nerves seeing how I'm an ex-combat medic with tours in combat and a currently a med student. Mass Effect focuses on characters and plots, handwaves its silliness, and so I wind up not caring. Yes, the whole mass effect thing is utter rubbish, but I can forgive it more easily. MGS winds up in the realism uncanny valley for me. For me. Let me say it again: your mileage may vary.
Or for a less fan-boy baiting example, consider the old NBA Street games, so over-the-top and cartoony, and then the NBA Live games. The Street games were so successful because they were such wild caricatures, while the Live games shot for ultimate realism. Both succeeded. I think a game in the middle would have failed, as neither casual basketball fans nor hardcore fans would be happy with the compromise.
Again, your mileage may vary.
I'd go so far as to say there is an uncanny valley for realism. Now, before I begin, I'd like to say in all things this is a case where Your Mileage May Vary. What a person finds unappealing do to its "realism" or lack thereof is entirely idiosyncratic. My opinions about what is in the "realism uncanny valley" are valid only for me. The idea I'm stressing is that I think there -is- a "realism uncanny valley."
If a game tries too hard to be realistic, then it can wind up falling on its ass if someone who is actually familiar with the topic plays it. For example, both Mass Effect and Metal Gear Solid are full of nonsense, but I can buy it from Mass Effect. The MGS series tries to bill itself as a serious work and explain everything away, so suddenly my rational brain starts working. The bio-and-military BS grate my nerves seeing how I'm an ex-combat medic with tours in combat and a currently a med student. Mass Effect focuses on characters and plots, handwaves its silliness, and so I wind up not caring. Yes, the whole mass effect thing is utter rubbish, but I can forgive it more easily. MGS winds up in the realism uncanny valley for me. For me. Let me say it again: your mileage may vary.
Or for a less fan-boy baiting example, consider the old NBA Street games, so over-the-top and cartoony, and then the NBA Live games. The Street games were so successful because they were such wild caricatures, while the Live games shot for ultimate realism. Both succeeded. I think a game in the middle would have failed, as neither casual basketball fans nor hardcore fans would be happy with the compromise.
Again, your mileage may vary.
Lylat Wars.derelix said:
Space travel does not work that way.
Lasers do not work that way.
Foxes do not fly spacecraft.
Meteors do not work that way.
Lava planets do not exist.
A giant cyber face named Andross with disembodied hands is a farce.
To say that the game incorporates things like gravity is not realism because gravity is universal.
Besides... Who calls something realistic because it has one element in it that can be traced to real life?
It's like calling a room clean because one corner of the room is spotless when the rest of the room is filled with junk.
Or calling Austria an evil nation because Hitler came from there.
One thing that bugs me is why people consider Bad Company 2 or Call of Duty to be realistic games. When I think realistic games, I think of the Operation Flashpoint or the ArmA games. Those games are the real realistic games and I think the average CoD or Battlefield player will be extrememly turned off when they play those.
