Poll: Do you love your home country?

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bl4ckh4wk64

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Lived in California, USA all my life. It's okay here, too many restrictions (mostly on firearms) and now they're going to regulate airsoft guns and make them clear plastic everything. I hate my state, but there are some really nice places in the rest of the U.S.
 

Ace of Spades

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I was born in America on the east coast, and it's all I know. I'm sure that I could find a place that suits me better, but I like where I live. I'm not a jingoist, but I like being American.
 

SomeBritishDude

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I can say I don't dislike living here. I think there are places I'd much rather live and I think there's a lot of crap that goes on here but I think, in general, this is a good country to live in.

I won't ever starve here and I'll probably always have a roof over my head. Sometimes that's the best a place can guarantee.
 

Lagslayer

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The way I see it, if you can't root for your own team, then f*** you. Seriously. I don't care where you are from, national pride is important. You don't have to like everything your country does, but you should never hate it. I love my country.
 

SwimmingRock

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Conza said:
SwimmingRock said:
Hate, definitely. Wanted to leave by the time I turned 10, but was stuck there until I could move out and go abroad. To this day, I consider it essentially the prison of my youth. There was nothing there except dirt, heat and ignorance. I can't stand any of those.
Aww c'mon man! we're dying to know where it is!

I'm from Australia, and love it, it's the best country on the planet, barring possibly the UK, or Italy or France, but everywhere else I doubt would be as good.
Aruba. It's a small island (which is why it felt so much like a prison) where books are considered a waste of paper, classical music is exclusively for "crazy white people" (there's a local insult for those) and there generally isn't dick to do besides drinking and playing dominoes.

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Lagslayer said:
The way I see it, if you can't root for your own team, then f*** you. Seriously. I don't care where you are from, national pride is important. You don't have to like everything your country does, but you should never hate it. I love my country.
One question: Why? You say national pride is important, but offer no arguments or proof. All national pride does is instill an innate bias in your thinking. And bias, as any decent scientist can tell you, serves no purpose other than to obstruct objective and rational thought. I make it a point never to trust people who are proud of where they were born.
 

mattaui

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I love the city I'm from, the state I live in and the entire country. If I didn't, I wouldn't live here. Nothing makes me roll my eyes and chuckle more than some well-to-do American who gripes about how much he hates his country while not either doing something concrete to change it or voting with his feet and leaving. Either he really doesn't hate it here, or he does but simply lacks the conviction of his beliefs.

Constructive, even strong criticism is one thing. Saying you actively hate where you live is quite another.
 

CopperBoom

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Love it!
Love the one above it more!
Love the one below and all the others in the world.
I love this planet and consider myself a citizen of it, not one country.
 

AvsJoe

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I love Canada, otherwise I wouldn't be living here. But I hate snow and winter. Funny, eh?

"Lord Inglip, what are thy orders?"
affront elfrow
"Hey Elfrow, come here! You are a worthless sack of crap! You are the lowest form of life in the universe! You're not even worthy enough to smell my shit! Get outta my sight!"
 

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No ... how an you love a collection of lines on a map?

I like the people (of Sydney), I like the culture (of Sydney) ... but given that I don't spend everyday of my life calling myself an Australian or pretending as if the populace of Sydney makes up the bulk of all Australians ... how the fuck can I pretend to *love* a country?

I grew up in NSW ... spent almost half of my life travelling/living elsewhere other than Australia ... came back here to study.

There's little more to it than that .... I wouldn't have studied here if I had the option of studying anywhere else in the globe (albeit I probably would have studied in Australia, given that I was eligible to go to a fantastic university ... especially given I didn't know I would be eligible at the time).

Australia gets alot of things right and it gets alot of things wrong. If the Human Development Index is anything to go by we're like no.1 or 2 on the list ...

We have (in Sydney) a big belief in the nature of the free market, and yet some politicians like to interfere with it too often and then blame others when our (NSW) state economic climate shudders.

Overall we're rich, have greater freedoms than anywhere else, and we have a city that boasts a multicultural climate second to none in the world. And unlike the ramshackling depressive nature of the European multicultural experiement, Australia has been gifted with being very close to neighbouring countries that like to work.

...and there's the bad thing.

Australians (born, not migrant... migrants I have nothing but praise for as they're the only ones keeping us afloat) are lazy shitheads who used to know the meaning of a hard day's labour in their youth when they we're picking up the pieces of their parent's tragic clustrefucking of the economy through rampant expenditure, and yet for some reason in their encroaching middle age have really decided to phone it in.

...Go figure.

Anyways ... Australia is just a country ... it's people make it liveable, so I love it's people. But I'm not foolish enough to believe that it's somehow the lines and contours on a topographical map, or it's cute little ballad of an anthem, that somehow impresses upon people to make it any better a place to be.
 

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Besides the constant degredation of our popculture, i love the united States. Great place to live and you always have a good paying military to fall back on if the free market isnt working for you
 

DustyDrB

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I love where I live because it's on the beach, the people are super friendly, there's lots of career opportunities, and the night life is good. That's not what you're talking about though. Politcally, I don't really care.
 

DoctorPhil

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Yeah I love it, Holland is a very tolerant and rational country. Still it's not the best (I'm looking at you Geert Wilders voters). I'd say the best countries are Canada and the scandinavian countries.
 

Murray Kitson

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i live in Canada. was born here, but all i can do is tolerate it. after living in australia for a few years and visiting japan, i don't think i want to live anywhere, but EVERYWHERE. Travel from place to place and never stay for more than 2 years anywhere. that's the life for me ^_^
 

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Murray Kitson said:
i live in Canada. was born here, but all i can do is tolerate it. after living in australia for a few years and visiting japan, i don't think i want to live anywhere, but EVERYWHERE. Travel from place to place and never stay for more than 2 years anywhere. that's the life for me ^_^
Used to have the same attitude ....

Gets so very tedious after your third move. Do not recommend. Save up money by not going anywhere and live like a prince after you're 40 ... that's the key. Being miserable for 40 years of life so you can enjoy the middle 30 ... before being miserable the last 10.
 

Murray Kitson

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PaulH said:
Murray Kitson said:
i live in Canada. was born here, but all i can do is tolerate it. after living in australia for a few years and visiting japan, i don't think i want to live anywhere, but EVERYWHERE. Travel from place to place and never stay for more than 2 years anywhere. that's the life for me ^_^
Used to have the same attitude ....

Gets so very tedious after your third move. Do not recommend ... save up money by not oing anywhere and live like a prince after you're 40 ... that's the key ... being miserable for 40 years of life so you can enjoy the middle 30 ... before being miserable the last 10.
i have already done 6 moves... still love it. the life isn't for everyone, and it DOES take a lot of money, but for someone like me, that isn't really an issue.
 

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Murray Kitson said:
i have already done 6 moves... still love it. the life isn't for everyone, and it DOES take a lot of money, but for someone like me, that isn't really an issue.
Money isn't an issue? Lucky? Money is my all-consuming passion ;D

As much crap as I put on nationalism, if I actually took stock of how much money I've saved living and working in Australia I shouldn't probably be saying anything.

Anyways, I personally found living a life behind a suitcase to be frightfully tragic. No true friends, zero long term relationships ... That and you make so much more money being static rather than mobile. Cons outweigh pros when you're constantly on the move.
 

Murray Kitson

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PaulH said:
Murray Kitson said:
i have already done 6 moves... still love it. the life isn't for everyone, and it DOES take a lot of money, but for someone like me, that isn't really an issue.
Money isn't an issue? Lucky? Money is my all-consuming passion ;D

As much crap as I put on nationalism, if I actually took stock of how much money I've saved living and working in Australia I shouldn't probably be saying anything.

Anyways, I personally found living a life behind a suitcase to be frioghtfully tragic. No true friends, zero long term relationships ... That and you make so much more money being static rather than mobile. Cons outweigh pros when you're constantly on the move.
depends really. i can work from anywhere, so location means little. last time i actually worked for someone was when i was creatively writing for a video game company.

and about relationships and friends, ya, you never get relationships, but i find them draining anyway. maybe one day i will find an intellectual girl that is worth giving up my nomad lifestyle, but until then, i have a broader area to find her. and friends are easily made. i can walk into a bar or coffee shop and be receiving free drinks from the owners. has happened many times, and will likely continue happening.

the only problem i have with it is actually changing all my information. getting home phone, internet and power hooked up and such is annoying. i quit carrying a cell phone because i hated receiving text messages, but it would be a lot easier to get a pay as you go card and just get a new sim in each city i move to.