Poll: Do you think we're all gonna die in December?

[arnoldthebird]

Err wasn't it was this December on the 12th?
Either way no I don't believe it and apparently it had already happen-

Spoiler

Damn, I was going to bust out that logic
The whole thing is bull shit, just wait until we reach 2013...shit will hit the fan

 

[leaderproxima]

Well, it didnt happen yet, and its already past december according to the mayan calender which didnt take leap years into account becuase leap years didnt exist back then. If you take the leap years out of the eqaution it is actually 2013 right now, round about july i think.

 

[Strazdas]

you know we have advertisement around here " cable tv will remain after december 21 2012". its that popular.
it is clear that there are certain climate changes. we will not die in 2012. but we certainly will live different than we did 10 years ago.

 

[Sigma Van Lockheart]

There have been about 514 Leap Years since Caesar created it in 45BC. Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013.

Also, the Mayan calendar did not account for leap years.... so technically, the world should have ended 7 months ago.

The date was calculated using star charts as a universal reference point between our calendar and the Mayan calendar. The motions of the stars and planets are like gears in a giant clock, and the positions of the stars are like the hands on the clock. We know the hands are going to point a certain way at the end of the Mayan calendar because they tracked time in terms of the positions of the stars and celestial bodies. The stars will take those positions on a date WE call "December 21st, 2012". If we did not have leap year in our calendar and we called today "July 18th, 2013" instead of "March 6th, 2012" then we would be calling the date that the Mayan calendar ends "May 5th, 2014". The stars and celestial bodies ("hands of the clock") have not moved into the position that marks the end of the Mayan long count calendar. It makes NO difference that the Mayan calender does not "account for leap year" because accounting for leap year was our responsibility when calculating the modern equivalent of the end of the Mayan calendar... the Mayans never gave us the date "December 21st, 2012", they gave us a set of star positions, and scholars calculated the date into our terminology. So this insinuates that we did not account for our leap year when using our own calendar system, or that we calculated the date prior to 45BC using the old calendar system and no one ever corrected it all this time. Regardless of the fact that we calculated our date (December 21st, 2012) using our own calender and we were well aware of our own practice of leap-day, there is still the universal clock independent of either calendar system- the positions of the stars and planets. And those "hands of the clock" have not yet moved into the position that marks the end of the Mayan calendar.

That having been said, even though the Mayan "calendar" accounts just fine for leap years; I don't think the world is ending in December. Or anytime soon.

My my you did do your research I feel kind of bad now because I just copy and pasted what a friend of mine said on my group forum

 

[ssgt splatter]

Err wasn't it was this December on the 12th?
Either way no I don't believe it and apparently it had already happen-

Spoiler

This and end thread. That my good sir is some top notch detective work and you deserve the Nobel Piece Prize for finally giving the killing blow to this insanity.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Err wasn't it was this December on the 12th?
Either way no I don't believe it and apparently it had already happen-

Spoiler

This and end thread. That my good sir is some top notch detective work and you deserve the Nobel Piece Prize for finally giving the killing blow to this insanity.

Actually the real credit well Nobel Piece Prize should go to my mate who posted on her Facebook a week ago. When I saw this thread I remember her posted image and simple copy and pate the url so that is hardly detective works from my end.

 

[Angry_squirrel]

You were one of many repeating that silly comment that makes absolutely no sense, so clearly you didn't think very hard or you wouldn't have repeated it.

I don't know how the Mayan calender works, and I certainly wasn't proclaiming it as fact, so no, I don't think my comment was particularly silly, and whether or not it's true, it does make sense.
So if you'd like to inform me, nicely, of how exactly I'm being so naive, I'll gladly listen. If you're just going to continue to insult me however, then I've absolutely no interest in what you have to say, and would appreciate it if you'd kindly stop bothering me.

 

[ssgt splatter]

Err wasn't it was this December on the 12th?
Either way no I don't believe it and apparently it had already happen-

Spoiler

This and end thread. That my good sir is some top notch detective work and you deserve the Nobel Piece Prize for finally giving the killing blow to this insanity.

Actually the real credit well Nobel Piece Prize should go to my mate who posted on her Facebook a week ago. When I saw this thread I remember her posted image and simple copy and pate the url so that is hardly detective works from my end.

Oh. Well, power to your friend then.

 

[Oroboros]

The whole 'Mayan calander doomsday' thing really boils down to people not understanding how the Mayan calendrical system works.It's important to understand that the Mayan number system does not work off of a base-10 system. For example, reading our base-ten system, you could have a date like '1745' which translates to 'one unit of one thousand, seven units of 100, 4 units of 4, five units of 5-years'. Reading the mayan calander, you get numbers like '3 Baktuns, 2 Katuns, 5 Tuns, 0 Uninals, 3 kins' which translates as 3 units of 144,000, 2 units of 7,200, 5 units of 360, 0 units of 20, 3 units of 1-days'. Of note is that there is simply no decimal higher than Baktun. The Mayan 'doomsday' is just the equivalent of the Y2K bug really, wheras our computers couldn't figure out how to count higher than 1999, the Mayans similarly did not have a higher number with their calender. That's all there is to it, really, the equivalent would be all of our calenders stopping at 999 because we didn't account for 1000 in our decimal system for our calender. At any rate, the Mayan solution was just to reset the calender, it was percieved as a time of momentous change, but not necessarily one of good or bad, so all this doomsday stuff is just the usual conspiracy garbage. All that will happen is that we will enter the next great cycle, it isn't a countdown to doomsday or any such nonsense, mearly the process of running out of days to mark off your mayan calender before you need to get a new one for the next Great Cycle.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Why can't the world end on 12/31 when Nyx arrives for our ascension?

Maybe she'll spout some nonsense about arcanas and life. Maybe the moon will turn into a giant eyeball.

THAT I'd like to see.

that would both be awesome, and freaky as hell

 

[kortin]

Yes, we're all going to die.

And it's all.
Your.
Fault.

 

[Poetic Nova]

I have to see prove of it happening before believing it so, no.

 

[DoPo]

So, I click on this thread that is a little more than 24 hours old but it's already 5 pages long and I see something. Or rather lack os something. I see a distinct lack of any xkcd. And I must say

Spoiler: Escapist, I am disappoint

Escapist, I am disappoint

 

[Hero in a half shell]

The date was calculated using star charts as a universal reference point between our calendar and the Mayan calendar. The motions of the stars and planets are like gears in a giant clock, and the positions of the stars are like the hands on the clock. We know the hands are going to point a certain way at the end of the Mayan calendar because they tracked time in terms of the positions of the stars and celestial bodies. The stars will take those positions on a date WE call "December 21st, 2012". If we did not have leap year in our calendar and we called today "July 18th, 2013" instead of "March 6th, 2012" then we would be calling the date that the Mayan calendar ends "May 5th, 2014". The stars and celestial bodies ("hands of the clock") have not moved into the position that marks the end of the Mayan long count calendar. It makes NO difference that the Mayan calender does not "account for leap year" because accounting for leap year was our responsibility when calculating the modern equivalent of the end of the Mayan calendar... the Mayans never gave us the date "December 21st, 2012", they gave us a set of star positions, and scholars calculated the date into our terminology. So this insinuates that we did not account for our leap year when using our own calendar system, or that we calculated the date prior to 45BC using the old calendar system and no one ever corrected it all this time. Regardless of the fact that we calculated our date (December 21st, 2012) using our own calender and we were well aware of our own practice of leap-day, there is still the universal clock independent of either calendar system- the positions of the stars and planets. And those "hands of the clock" have not yet moved into the position that marks the end of the Mayan calendar.

That having been said, even though the Mayan "calendar" accounts just fine for leap years; I don't think the world is ending in December. Or anytime soon.

I like how we constantly slag off the people who believe in the Mayan Prophecy, referring to them as if they were pond scum for believing something so stupid, and consider ourselves so much more intelligent paragons of reason and logic, and then start baa-ing like sheep repeating some clearly dodgy crap about leap years and calendar dates without bothering to research it at all or even be bothered to read the comments on this very thread that debunk it.
Heck, we're over a hundred posts into the discussion and people are still posting it in the smug delusion that they are absolutely the first person to mention it here and are therefore performing some sort of admirable service to us all with this new and refreshing information. As Charlie Brooker said of Bill O'reilly; We're like a tortoise that's learned to enjoy the stink of it's own farts.

 

[Cecilthedarkknight_234]

well if we are let the looting, raping commence. Nothing says end of the world like a good circle jerk.

 

[Active Schizophrenic]

Of course not, the world cant end until half-life 3 is released. Silly

 

[The Gnome King]

The date was calculated using star charts as a universal reference point between our calendar and the Mayan calendar. The motions of the stars and planets are like gears in a giant clock, and the positions of the stars are like the hands on the clock. We know the hands are going to point a certain way at the end of the Mayan calendar because they tracked time in terms of the positions of the stars and celestial bodies. The stars will take those positions on a date WE call "December 21st, 2012". If we did not have leap year in our calendar and we called today "July 18th, 2013" instead of "March 6th, 2012" then we would be calling the date that the Mayan calendar ends "May 5th, 2014". The stars and celestial bodies ("hands of the clock") have not moved into the position that marks the end of the Mayan long count calendar. It makes NO difference that the Mayan calender does not "account for leap year" because accounting for leap year was our responsibility when calculating the modern equivalent of the end of the Mayan calendar... the Mayans never gave us the date "December 21st, 2012", they gave us a set of star positions, and scholars calculated the date into our terminology. So this insinuates that we did not account for our leap year when using our own calendar system, or that we calculated the date prior to 45BC using the old calendar system and no one ever corrected it all this time. Regardless of the fact that we calculated our date (December 21st, 2012) using our own calender and we were well aware of our own practice of leap-day, there is still the universal clock independent of either calendar system- the positions of the stars and planets. And those "hands of the clock" have not yet moved into the position that marks the end of the Mayan calendar.

That having been said, even though the Mayan "calendar" accounts just fine for leap years; I don't think the world is ending in December. Or anytime soon.

I like how we constantly slag off the people who believe in the Mayan Prophecy, referring to them as if they were pond scum for believing something so stupid, and consider ourselves so much more intelligent paragons of reason and logic, and then start baa-ing like sheep repeating some clearly dodgy crap about leap years and calendar dates without bothering to research it at all or even be bothered to read the comments on this very thread that debunk it.
Heck, we're over a hundred posts into the discussion and people are still posting it in the smug delusion that they are absolutely the first person to mention it here and are therefore performing some sort of admirable service to us all with this new and refreshing information. As Charlie Brooker said of Bill O'reilly; We're like a tortoise that's learned to enjoy the stink of it's own farts.

People are usually quite idiotic and are more interested in being right than in being correct. There's a subtle difference there...

This is just one instance where a stupid meme started - the leap year / Mayan calendar is "invalid" thing - and a VERY SIMPLE research project that took 5-10 minutes of my time illuminated the information I gave above, which clearly shows the Mayan "calendar" wasn't even designed on the same premises that ours was; and that the scholars who TRANSLATE these texts for a living? Yeah, believe it or not they were smart enough to account for leap year.

Shocking that folk who dedicate their lives to this stuff would know more than the average person, no?

 

[The Gnome King]

There have been about 514 Leap Years since Caesar created it in 45BC. Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013.

Also, the Mayan calendar did not account for leap years.... so technically, the world should have ended 7 months ago.

The date was calculated using star charts as a universal reference point between our calendar and the Mayan calendar. The motions of the stars and planets are like gears in a giant clock, and the positions of the stars are like the hands on the clock. We know the hands are going to point a certain way at the end of the Mayan calendar because they tracked time in terms of the positions of the stars and celestial bodies. The stars will take those positions on a date WE call "December 21st, 2012". If we did not have leap year in our calendar and we called today "July 18th, 2013" instead of "March 6th, 2012" then we would be calling the date that the Mayan calendar ends "May 5th, 2014". The stars and celestial bodies ("hands of the clock") have not moved into the position that marks the end of the Mayan long count calendar. It makes NO difference that the Mayan calender does not "account for leap year" because accounting for leap year was our responsibility when calculating the modern equivalent of the end of the Mayan calendar... the Mayans never gave us the date "December 21st, 2012", they gave us a set of star positions, and scholars calculated the date into our terminology. So this insinuates that we did not account for our leap year when using our own calendar system, or that we calculated the date prior to 45BC using the old calendar system and no one ever corrected it all this time. Regardless of the fact that we calculated our date (December 21st, 2012) using our own calender and we were well aware of our own practice of leap-day, there is still the universal clock independent of either calendar system- the positions of the stars and planets. And those "hands of the clock" have not yet moved into the position that marks the end of the Mayan calendar.

That having been said, even though the Mayan "calendar" accounts just fine for leap years; I don't think the world is ending in December. Or anytime soon.

My my you did do your research I feel kind of bad now because I just copy and pasted what a friend of mine said on my group forum

Never baa like the sheep and repeat what you hear. Always, always do your research.

The first thing I do when I see one of those idiotic memes is investigate the source and start to figure out if it's true or not. This is the same reason I don't donate to many charities - when you research where your dollars go to, you're much better off handing a few bucks to the homeless guy on the street; or buying him a sandwich if you prefer. Otherwise you're paying "administrative costs" - ie., people are getting paid to work for these non profits.

I always find I'm much more likely to volunteer my time when I'm getting paid for it. Shocking.

Don't feel bad, though - feel empowered and enlightened! You know something most of the world doesn't now!