I won't tell them he exists but i'm not going to tell them he doesn't they'll believe in him to begin with due to all the media and such that way when they call me a lier I can say that technically I never said he was real I just didn't decimate their youth and start them on the path to adulthood.
Poll: Does Santa Claus exist? More importantly, what will you tell your children?
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It is a fun thing to believe in. Yes I believe in Santa in a fun way. To give a little spirit along with my religious views. But of course I'll tell my children. It's to get back at my parents telling me the fat guy was real, so I do it to the only other person I can who will believe. Revenge. Hehe.
): thats how i feel, i don't know how to properly thank someone and make them feel that what i got was really great. like my kick ass high end computer that i got last Christmas, i love it and its the shit, but i wish i could really show that im thankfulErana said:
I've been waiting to see how this thread pans out, and it seems to be more of the same. Would-be parents explaining their choices on what they will do when it's time to explain why they are getting presents at christmas.
Like it's your choice.
Children revel in the false and make-believe, and they can damn well spot it. They don't need your coddling hand to try and steer them clear of lies and mistruths, the real world is far too stocked with lies not to expose them too it now. It's an act, and when your child comes to you and asks if you will play this fantasy with them, will you be so selfish as to deny them their choice?
It's a nice way for them to learn about make believe and lies. When they start to question (And they will believe before they question), you don't have to break or make their beliefs, children will accept ambiguity. Children will accept the truth they had always known willingly if they reach it themselves.
The real world is so stocked with fantasy and misdirection... why smother your children in the lie that it is logical?
That's something you'll have to decide, when your child makes the choice to believe in Santa or not.
And that's the end of my involvement in this thread.
Like it's your choice.
Children revel in the false and make-believe, and they can damn well spot it. They don't need your coddling hand to try and steer them clear of lies and mistruths, the real world is far too stocked with lies not to expose them too it now. It's an act, and when your child comes to you and asks if you will play this fantasy with them, will you be so selfish as to deny them their choice?
It's a nice way for them to learn about make believe and lies. When they start to question (And they will believe before they question), you don't have to break or make their beliefs, children will accept ambiguity. Children will accept the truth they had always known willingly if they reach it themselves.
The real world is so stocked with fantasy and misdirection... why smother your children in the lie that it is logical?
That's something you'll have to decide, when your child makes the choice to believe in Santa or not.
And that's the end of my involvement in this thread.
i saw a movie about that at church when i was like 7, i think it was some rich guy that got imprisoned then went "ITS PRESENT TIME!!!" W/Emydogisblue said:I found out that Santa wasn't real after looking over the railing in the middle of the night on Christmas Eve and seeing my mom and dad put all the presents under the tree.
Also I have to ask, where the hell did Santa come from? I mean, how could anyone think that a fat guy in a red suit would be relevant to the birth of Jesus?
I'm not quite sure when I stopped believing in Santa. It was probably around 7 or 8, but I can't be certain. I do know that apparently I did believe in him at one point, since my parents told me last year that I stayed awake until 1 Am when I was four waiting for him in the living room.
Then again, my belief in the supernatural never really blossomed. My parents never took me or my siblings to church, so there was no chance I would grow up and go "you lied to me about Santa, so you are lying to me about Jesus!".
Will I tell my kids stories of Santa? Sure. Why the hell not. What is childhood without magic or imagination? Without Santa, Christmas would just be another birthday to a kid, another time of the year where they get free crap, and they would lose all the special meaning behind it. If you take away Christmas altogether, then you miss out on one of the great events in western culture, plus other kids would probably make fun of you.
Then again, my belief in the supernatural never really blossomed. My parents never took me or my siblings to church, so there was no chance I would grow up and go "you lied to me about Santa, so you are lying to me about Jesus!".
Will I tell my kids stories of Santa? Sure. Why the hell not. What is childhood without magic or imagination? Without Santa, Christmas would just be another birthday to a kid, another time of the year where they get free crap, and they would lose all the special meaning behind it. If you take away Christmas altogether, then you miss out on one of the great events in western culture, plus other kids would probably make fun of you.
you know now that i think about it, today's society being what it is you could only keep your child away from Santa for so long. unless you live in a deserted wasteland. your child would eventually find out and either keep it to himself or question you, then you can tell him about santa. it was fun to believe he existed tho made me happyUltrajoe said:
but i always shivered at night because i thought he might kill me in my sleep
There was a historic St.Nicholas who gave out presents but his modern image was created by Coke as a marketing ploy.mydogisblue said:I found out that Santa wasn't real after looking over the railing in the middle of the night on Christmas Eve and seeing my mom and dad put all the presents under the tree.
Also I have to ask, where the hell did Santa come from? I mean, how could anyone think that a fat guy in a red suit would be relevant to the birth of Jesus?
I really believe that it comes down to what you believe is right. All parenting decisions should come down to this. I've already chosen what I'm gonna do, and I hope that the rest of you sit down, and really think about which is better. Don't let other peoples opinions sway yours.
You only have one chance to raise your kid, so make sure you choose something that you won't regret.
You only have one chance to raise your kid, so make sure you choose something that you won't regret.
My wife and I both agree that we are not going to tell our kids that Santa Claus is real. We will do the thing with the stockings on the mantel (or shelf if we don't have a fireplace), but we won't tell them that Santa came and put stuff in them. My favorite thing to do with the stockings is to put little surprise or gag gifts in them for my family. One year, I found some black hard candy that came in broken up chunks. I put it in the stockings and told my cousins (who were little at the time) that it was coal.
We'll tell our kids the truth about Santa Claus: that he is a mythical symbol of the spirit of giving. That he is loosely based on St. Nicholas who was a real person who lived a long time ago and went around leaving toys, candy and food on the door steps of homes in his parish. All the stuff about the flying reindeer, going down chimneys, living at the North Pole etc. is all made up but the spirit or idea of unselfish giving is very real.
I'll also tell them about the real reason for Christmas which is to remember that Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem in just the way that the Old Testament prophets said He would be. Also that Jesus was born, lived a sinless life, gave us examples of how to live and treat each other, was crucified thirty some years later and was raised from the dead so that we can be saved from our sins and live in Heaven with Him when we die. That is what Christmas is really all about, not Santa Claus.
We'll tell our kids the truth about Santa Claus: that he is a mythical symbol of the spirit of giving. That he is loosely based on St. Nicholas who was a real person who lived a long time ago and went around leaving toys, candy and food on the door steps of homes in his parish. All the stuff about the flying reindeer, going down chimneys, living at the North Pole etc. is all made up but the spirit or idea of unselfish giving is very real.
I'll also tell them about the real reason for Christmas which is to remember that Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem in just the way that the Old Testament prophets said He would be. Also that Jesus was born, lived a sinless life, gave us examples of how to live and treat each other, was crucified thirty some years later and was raised from the dead so that we can be saved from our sins and live in Heaven with Him when we die. That is what Christmas is really all about, not Santa Claus.
I intend to maintain that Santa is real, even past the point at which they've stopped believing in him. You know, just to really fuck with their heads.
In all seriousness though, I don't intend to have kids, so if they do start asking me about Santa, I've got bigger things to worry about.
In all real seriousness though, I don't think it matters too much in the long run, you could probably get away with telling you kids either, but if I do have kids I'll probably tell them he isn't real.
In all seriousness though, I don't intend to have kids, so if they do start asking me about Santa, I've got bigger things to worry about.
In all real seriousness though, I don't think it matters too much in the long run, you could probably get away with telling you kids either, but if I do have kids I'll probably tell them he isn't real.