Poll: Dragons in Skyrim. YAY or NAY...?

[E-Penguin]

I liked the final battle in Oblivion, the one before you go into the huge cluster-fuck oblivion gate.

It wasn't super crazy like it was hyped up to be, but considering that I was playing on the 360, it was the closest I could come to any semblance of an awesome NPC battle.

I didn't like that battle. Martin chose to wear nothing but robes and a helmet.

 

[Popadoo]

Permit me to be horribly un-excited by this game. Will the dragons also stare at me lifelessly or all have the same voice or have their entire culture entirely unaffected by my enormously epic questions?

Meh. Skyrim and TOR have me caring less and less everyday. Which is hard for Skyrim because I hardly gave a shit to begin with.

That isn't really fair. The CRAZY-FREEZE-TIME-LIFELESS-STARE-OF-DOOM part of the series has been removed, there are more (and better) voice actors and the economy is easily affected by the smallest things. For example, if you bought all of an item, let's say every weapon in a town, the cost of weapons in the future will rise dramatically in that town, and more NPCs will be sent down the mines to collect ores.
Pretty much everything you talked bad about has been fixed.

 

[Zakarath]

Dragons are awesome. On the other hand, I hate killing them :'(. So I have mixed feeling about this.

 

[Lullabye]

I don't think I can deal with infinite dragons. I'm probably going to be extremely underpowered. So fighting dragons is going to be a pain in the ass like no other.

 

[Flaming Narwhal]

YAY, for rarely do dragons make things worse. Although if the dragons are too hard to beat then it could take some of the fun out of the experience.

 

[thegrimfandango]

You asked for it. I just hope that stealth characters will be able to fight them.

Me too, I'm a sneaky sneaky type. Surely they'll have allowed for that though.

Is it confirmed that all dragons are hostile? I like what I'm reading about not all random creatures being hostile unless you bother them first.

 

[Argonian alchemist]

YAY, for rarely do dragons make things worse. Although if the dragons are too hard to beat then it could take some of the fun out of the experience.

I would imagine that Bethesda made sure to balance their difficulty since they are one of the main focuses of the game.

 

[Save us.A7X]

Hell yes it's awesome. Was already planning on making a dragon hunting character on it anyways so the fact there gonna come looking for a fight sounds good to me.

 

[KingGolem]

Bleh, I don't like the idea. The Elder Scrolls series is one of the more original fantasy series in video games, and dragons are perhaps one of the most done-to-death fantasy creatures around. Further, I'm not so sure these dragons will be anything special. Sure they have a language, but will they have any characterization? Will they be like terrifying villains or just giant lizards who are only intelligent because the game says so? If they aren't going to have any characterization, then they will be ought but physical threats, and it would be so easy to make original ones instead of dragons again.

 

[rmb1983]

No you are 110% wrong, it is not gamebryo... even check online. Todd Howard said it himself. It is a totally new fleshed out engine.

"Though Skyrim's Nordic setting is a more rugged environment than the Renaissance festival feel of Oblivion's Cyrodiil, the new setting isn't lacking in breathtaking views. To create a diverse country filled with steep mountain passes and dense forests, babbling brooks and violent waterfalls, glacier coastlines and snowy tundras, Bethesda went back to the drawing board and rewrote every major system powering the gameplay experience. The result is the newly dubbed Creation Engine and Kit"

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/the_elder_scrolls_v_skyrim/b/xbox360/archive/2011/01/17/the-technology-behind-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim.aspx

I don't just make up stuff. Online is where I found it.

Out of the excerpt alone that you provided (and the rest of the article is chiefly superfluous in regards to this), it confirms a completely new game engine, and not a re-hash of the Gamebryo engine once more.

I'll admit, they made some pretty significant improvements to the engine when they re-hauled it for Oblivion, and later Fallout 3/New Vegas, but they've been confirming since the second or third bit of teasing that it's a completely new engine, and not just an overhaul of the same engine they've been working with for the past decade.

OT: Given the basis of the lore, it certainly would hinder the game dramatically if dragons weren't included. Personally, I couldn't care less on the idea of having dragons in it; dragons are pretty bloody awesome in their own right, but it is a concept/fantasy-genre staple and cliché that's been overused. Further than that, dragons tend not to be a crowd-pleaser in most games, because despite the setting and lore of any game dragons have been thrown into, they're typically a hit-and-miss concept; for the most part, they don't fit an average person's idea of what a dragon should be like.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

I love the idea because well, shit man, it's dragons!

Wow, the thread /thread'd with the first response. Nice.

 

[Argonian alchemist]

Bleh, I don't like the idea. The Elder Scrolls series is one of the more original fantasy series in video games, and dragons are perhaps one of the most done-to-death fantasy creatures around. Further, I'm not so sure these dragons will be anything special. Sure they have a language, but will they have any characterization? Will they be like terrifying villains or just giant lizards who are only intelligent because the game says so? If they aren't going to have any characterization, then they will be ought but physical threats, and it would be so easy to make original ones instead of dragons again.

Just because something becomes a widely used feature in games does not make it bad. A lot of games still use some sort of slow motion ability, Fallout used V.A.T.S, Red Dead Redemption used the dead-eye ability etc, etc. But people still love it.

It is how something is used that makes it repetitive or not. If one game had dragons that fought and behaved the same as another games dragons it could be classified as over-used and/or repetitive.

But what if Skyrim does an amazing job with the dragons? like the experience/scenario I stated in my opening statement of the thread.

However, I guess we will all find out, But I have a feeling people like you will be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Mr. Grey]

What do I do when the dragon is flying too far above me for my sword to reach?!

Basically imagine the dragon is just "hovering" there staring down upon me as I swing my sword whilst on tippy toes. Then imagine that dragon scorching me until I'm dead. This does not bode well for me... no, not at all.

But fuck yeah! Dragons!

 

[Woodsey]

Yay.

Also: "Which leads me to a scenario in my head where you'll be travelling through the forest when all of a sudden you look up at a small clearing in the tree tops just to get a glimpse of what seemed to be a dragon flying past. You immediately stop in your tracks and try to remain quite.

It's silent... then, you hear a echoing thump in the surrounding area. Much like a dragon swooping down and landing. You then immediately turn and run back towards a village you saw near the forest earlier, as your running you hear loud footsteps behind you getting louder and louder. Then nothing... like the dragon had taken flight once more, maybe it has decided to leave you alone?

Then... BAM! it lands back down straight in front of you. You stand their frozen. Then you hear a soft whisper, you can't quite make out what it said, before you can finish contemplating the noise the dragon lunges forward and the fight begins..."

I lol'd.

 

[WaReloaded]

What's not to love about Dragons?

 

[KingGolem]

Bleh, I don't like the idea. The Elder Scrolls series is one of the more original fantasy series in video games, and dragons are perhaps one of the most done-to-death fantasy creatures around. Further, I'm not so sure these dragons will be anything special. Sure they have a language, but will they have any characterization? Will they be like terrifying villains or just giant lizards who are only intelligent because the game says so? If they aren't going to have any characterization, then they will be ought but physical threats, and it would be so easy to make original ones instead of dragons again.

Just because something becomes a widely used feature in games does not make it bad. A lot of games still use some sort of slow motion ability, Fallout used V.A.T.S, Red Dead Redemption used the dead-eye ability etc, etc. But people still love it.

It is how something is used that makes it repetitive or not. If one game had dragons that fought and behaved the same as another games dragons it could be classified as over-used and/or repetitive.

But what if Skyrim does an amazing job with the dragons? like the experience/scenario I stated in my opening statement of the thread.

However, I guess we will all find out, But I have a feeling people like you will be pleasantly surprised.

I think it's a bit different from your example. V.A.T.S. and Dead-eye are gameplay mechanics, while the use of dragons is a narrative choice. You could replace the dragons with something original and deliver a game just as fun, but perhaps more unique. I admit, of course, they could take the dragons in a new direction and make me pleasantly surprised, but nevertheless I'm excited about a new Elder Scrolls game, not about the dragons. I sure hope you're right, though. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Argonian alchemist]

Bleh, I don't like the idea. The Elder Scrolls series is one of the more original fantasy series in video games, and dragons are perhaps one of the most done-to-death fantasy creatures around. Further, I'm not so sure these dragons will be anything special. Sure they have a language, but will they have any characterization? Will they be like terrifying villains or just giant lizards who are only intelligent because the game says so? If they aren't going to have any characterization, then they will be ought but physical threats, and it would be so easy to make original ones instead of dragons again.

Just because something becomes a widely used feature in games does not make it bad. A lot of games still use some sort of slow motion ability, Fallout used V.A.T.S, Red Dead Redemption used the dead-eye ability etc, etc. But people still love it.

It is how something is used that makes it repetitive or not. If one game had dragons that fought and behaved the same as another games dragons it could be classified as over-used and/or repetitive.

But what if Skyrim does an amazing job with the dragons? like the experience/scenario I stated in my opening statement of the thread.

Perhaps you could but... what? Would you truly be happy if you heard they we're taking dragons out and putting something else in?

As I mentioned I still think Bethesda, along with their new engine are going to surprise with the dragons.

However, I guess we will all find out, But I have a feeling people like you will be pleasantly surprised.

I think it's a bit different from your example. V.A.T.S. and Dead-eye are gameplay mechanics, while the use of dragons is a narrative choice. You could replace the dragons with something original and deliver a game just as fun, but perhaps more unique. I admit, of course, they could take the dragons in a new direction and make me pleasantly surprised, but nevertheless I'm excited about a new Elder Scrolls game, not about the dragons. I sure hope you're right, though. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Burningsok]

Dragons in a world more akin to the strange and foreign Morrowind than the worn and familiar Oblivion? Fucking DRAGONS? YOU BET YOUR FUCKING ASS "YAY."

With great enthusiasm shall I unsheath my swords, gaze fiercely into the eyes of the very embodiments of primal power and majesty, and roar in the language of the beasts themselves, "COME AT ME, BRO."

this is just my opinion

 

[Kurokasumi]

I can't wait to do battle with a FUCKING DRAGON. It's going to be so awesome! That or be running for my life from a dragon because I found one when I was level 3... IT'LL STILL BE AWESOME.

 

[Agayek]

until i have seem them in action i expect horrible fight because aiming ranged weapons, spells towards the sky will not work properly and dragons will always decide to pay you a visit when you are almost out of supplies and haven't saved for 30min.
AFTER i see an awesome gameplay video of a dragon fight that a pure melee char can win i will dive head first into the hype. until then i assume the worst

Considering a pure melee character could effectively fight nigh-everything in Oblivion and Morrowind, I don't think there's a whole lot to be worried about.