just because games are no longer nothing but mindless fun doesn't mean we don't deserve some mindless fun once in a while. Hence the Lego game s franchise.
Poll: Duke Nukem - Why?
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So what your telling me is that its duke nukem that undoes everything in gaming, not Rapelay, or Immoral studies or any other game that's controversial, lets not forget custers revenge, no it's duke nukem that finally does it right. I believe the Jimquisition said it best, you can have a movie like Die Hard which is mindless action and still have a deep movie like American Beauty.
http://www.destructoid.com/the-jimquisition-big-dumb-shooters-are-better-than-art-192081.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/the-jimquisition-big-dumb-shooters-are-better-than-art-192081.phtml
I will be buying DNF, and here's something everyone who hates DNF "for what it will do to the games industry" ought to remember: DNF is not meant to be smart, it's big, stupid, manly fun and that's all it cares about.
And this is what every medium does- not every movie is directed by Christopher Nolan, not every book is a Shakespearean tragedy. For every "Memento" there is also a "The Hangover", and for every classic work of literature, there is an entire series of generic, formulaic nerd porn (a la "Demonata" or anything Terry Goodkind has written).
Now, it's perfectly fine to say "I don't like media that is that stupid" and therefore not buy it. That's great, that's why I hated Superbad (because I'm not in a college fraternity or 4 years old). But you people need to get off your high-horse about the "far-reaching consequences" this game may have. The industry managed to withstand games like Bulletstorm, Saints Row 2, and the Grand Theft Auto series. Duke Nukem isn't bringing anything new to the table that the games industry hasn't already dealt with.
And for the love of god, be a little less pretentious, can we? I'm sure no one needs reminding that men like Einstein, Ben Franklin, and Rousseau were all massive pervs. Genius and stupid, idiot fun aren't mutually exclusive, and men smarter than you have had fun WAY dumber than you too. Calm down.
And this is what every medium does- not every movie is directed by Christopher Nolan, not every book is a Shakespearean tragedy. For every "Memento" there is also a "The Hangover", and for every classic work of literature, there is an entire series of generic, formulaic nerd porn (a la "Demonata" or anything Terry Goodkind has written).
Now, it's perfectly fine to say "I don't like media that is that stupid" and therefore not buy it. That's great, that's why I hated Superbad (because I'm not in a college fraternity or 4 years old). But you people need to get off your high-horse about the "far-reaching consequences" this game may have. The industry managed to withstand games like Bulletstorm, Saints Row 2, and the Grand Theft Auto series. Duke Nukem isn't bringing anything new to the table that the games industry hasn't already dealt with.
And for the love of god, be a little less pretentious, can we? I'm sure no one needs reminding that men like Einstein, Ben Franklin, and Rousseau were all massive pervs. Genius and stupid, idiot fun aren't mutually exclusive, and men smarter than you have had fun WAY dumber than you too. Calm down.
I may buy it, it really depends on how much spare cash is around, if I've finished up my current games, If I'll be working too much to enjoy it, the reviews and what my friends say if they buy it, etc etc.
In other words, I didn't see a maybe button, though I'd venture to say, yes eventually.
In other words, I didn't see a maybe button, though I'd venture to say, yes eventually.
I am a little tired of the idea that games need to be like some sort of cultural diplomat when in reality people are asking for games to conform to overly liberalistic social pressures. All any feminist or racial agenda has accomplished in todays society is instead of making society view us as equals and eliminate racial and gender privleges. It has simply stolen privileges from one group and given it to another and calling it equality.
I might not buy it, but I like what it represents, big colorful shooty whizbang fun, which is quite a departure from the standard FPS fare so... Yeah, could be fun, if it looks good I will buy it.
I'm not going to buy the game... not because of any moral reasoning. I just don't like shooters...
Also, Duke Nukem is not going to undermine anything. It's an obvious parody that is in no way going to harm the medium. It's not like the existence of a Duke Nukem will negate the existence of a genuinely good game.
Does the existence of Fast 5 (Is that really the title?) negate say, Metropolis? No.
Also, Duke Nukem is not going to undermine anything. It's an obvious parody that is in no way going to harm the medium. It's not like the existence of a Duke Nukem will negate the existence of a genuinely good game.
Does the existence of Fast 5 (Is that really the title?) negate say, Metropolis? No.
I don't mind excessively indulgent games. DNF might be good, and it might not be. Who knows?
I'm not buying Duke Nukem because Deus Ex is coming out, Portal 2 already came out, and I have no reason to believe that DNF will be good enough to shell out yet another 50 dollars for..
I'm not buying Duke Nukem because Deus Ex is coming out, Portal 2 already came out, and I have no reason to believe that DNF will be good enough to shell out yet another 50 dollars for..
Oh well, look who thinks he speaks for everyone. Look, if you like art games, support art games. If you don't like buying a game twice, send money in an envelope to the developers. If all of the people that complain about duke nukem or fun shooters coming out these days instead supported the developers that make those arty games, pretty soon the art game devs will be triple A themselves, and therefore will produce art games that have more polish and shine. It's not like duke nukem fans are bombing art game studios, are they?
Bulletstorm had a five hour campaign. In playtests, DNF is coming in at about 15-17 hours. So it won't come close to being as skimpy as Bulletstorm.jakko12345 said:
OT: The reason I'm excited for DNF (aside from, you know Duke Nukem) is because environmental exploration is still going to play a big part in it. Its been a while since I played an FPS where there was something to do other than sprint through gunning down waves of enemies.
I'm probably not going to get it and I do think Duke is rather dated in this day and age, but I can certainly see why people want this game. Putting a close to the longest-running dev cycle of all time this is a bit of a closer to a video game legend and represents one last hoorah for a semi-old school video game character. I don't think this "undoes" anything though, every medium has its more mature content and its sillier content. I know video games are in a bit of a different position when it comes to maturity than other mediums but Mortal Kombat and Duke Nukem don't take anything away from what games like Heavy Rain have done.