Well at least you're nice about it. ^^Hollyday said:Yeah, we're never going to agree. Mainly because I'm not sure we're even talking about the same thing, but hey, it happens!WOPR said:snip
I hear when you spin around six times and run into tall grass you will encounter a Geeky girl.King of Asgaard said:I, being a seventeen year old male and a massive geek, have not encountered a geek of the opposite gender.
Supposedly, they exist, yet not where I live, which is quite a downer.
Shame there's no tall grass where I live, then.Mavinchious Maximus said:I hear when you spin around six times and run into tall grass you will encounter a Geeky girl.King of Asgaard said:I, being a seventeen year old male and a massive geek, have not encountered a geek of the opposite gender.
Supposedly, they exist, yet not where I live, which is quite a downer.
Or so the legend says.
You, sir. I think I love you. "Non-Ironically sell compact disks" is definitely entering my generally used phrasing.thiosk said:At least the girls are posing as geeks! Be thankful for what you have!
IN MY DAY THE GIRLS WERE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE GUYS WHO KICKED GEEK ASS
WE'D BE ALL LIKE
hey baby, wanna listen to an MP3?
And they'd be all like FUCK YOU I DON'T NEED YOUR MATHS. I LIKE AD-SUPPORTED RADIO AND RECORD STORES THAT NON IRONICALLY ONLY SELL COMPACT DISKS
ALSO VOLTRON SUCKS.
Damn those girls were awful. You whiners don't know how good you got it.
Unless these Geeky girls all cunningly disguise themselves as extremely venomous reptiles, the legend does not hold up around these parts.Mavinchious Maximus said:I hear when you spin around six times and run into tall grass you will encounter a Geeky girl.
Or so the legend says.
But I enjoy Big Bang Theory for all the physics they get wrong. It is weird when we flick it on and I don't find the missunderstandings funny, but when they start talking string theory or say something wrong about an MMO I lose my shit. I then get funny looks.El Danny said:Basically, there are people who find the Big Bang Theory funny.
Then there's the rest of us.
Bottom line, Geek and Nerdy is currently a fad, it'll pass.
Men think bronys are gay is true, but I haven't had that much hate off women.Shdwrnr said:Bronies are the current male equivilent on the internet I'd say. For women, the claim is that they're attention whores and for men, the claim is that they're gay. The insults are a bit different, but the sentiment is the same.
Sigh, that is the crux of the issue isn't it? But then again we all have a tendency to define ourselves with labels, or rather we're aware that society labels us.DugMachine said:I find both genders do it equally. Not that go around claiming "I'm a TRUE nerd! I'm a TRUE geek!!1!" cause i'm not and I think the idea is just stupid. It's quite obvious though when you have a geeky person who actually enjoy's video games, literature and other aspects of geek culture and not because it's the 'cool' thing to do right now. It's mostly the "style" (thick rimmed glasses, thick rimmed glasses everywhere) that people follow. I've met many a 'geek' who think just putting on a novelty gamer T shirt and some thick rimmed glasses immediately gives them cred.... when there is no cred to be had anyways.
Will I make a big deal out of it though? No. It's a fad, this will all pass and soon geek culture won't be 'cool and hip' anymore. I think 80's hair metal bands are making a come back JUST MARK MY WORDS!
Someone recently got shot down by a hot girl he erroneously decided was the Mecca of geekdom, amirite?LiftYourSkinnyFists said:Black rim glasses with no lenses do not make you a geek, they make you a slut who found broken glasses.
Well I'm glad you've learned something at least. And bless you for thinking I actually care if you watch it or not.zelda2fanboy said:Thing A does not equal thing B. I thought Britain had more of this type of show, considering All in the Family is an Americanized version of Till Death Do Us Part, but you really don't seem to know exactly what I'm talking about, nor do you care to. I had Spaced on my netflix instant queue, but I'm probably not going to watch it now, knowing from the expert opinion of an anonymous person on the internet that I'm a moron and wouldn't understand how jokes work.Daveman said:I haven't watched any of those shows because I'm British and we don't get them over here and we have our own better ones (BEWARE, OPINION). Well, I've watched Frasier and I also thought that was pretty rubbish but the point is I'm a geek, not a radio personality. I therefore don't get insulted by the stereotypes portrayed in that. Maybe radio personalities hate Frasier because they are insulted by the way they're presented, though I'm not entirely sure what they'd find insulting about being likened to Frasier.
I also feel sad that you think that's just what a sitcom is and that's all they can be. If you like geeky stuff and don't want every character to be an insulting stereotype and also want it to be funny and clever then I highly recommend Spaced.
It's so refreshing to meet people who go against the stereotype of the "smug, pompous Englishman" or the "elitist and excluding internet nerd." American sitcoms have just given me such false impressions of the world. People aren't really like that.Daveman said:Well I'm glad you've learned something at least. And bless you for thinking I actually care if you watch it or not.
I had to go back to find this after seeing you quoted on the last page.Daveman said:I haven't watched any of those shows because I'm British and we don't get them over here and we have our own better ones (BEWARE, OPINION). Well, I've watched Frasier and I also thought that was pretty rubbish but the point is I'm a geek, not a radio personality. I therefore don't get insulted by the stereotypes portrayed in that. Maybe radio personalities hate Frasier because they are insulted by the way they're presented, though I'm not entirely sure what they'd find insulting about being likened to Frasier.zelda2fanboy said:I swear, sometimes I wonder if people actually know what TV sitcoms are. You think Cheers is an accurate portrayal of a bar? Frasier is a real life radio personality? Rural Illinois is just like Roseanne? Spin City is a political drama? Coach is like actual college athletics? That a family on the planet bears any resemblance to the one on Married With Children? It's all stereotypes and broad generalizations. They're easy jokes told in easy ways in front of a live audience prepped to be ready to laugh at just about anything. That's how these shows are, and they're their own art form. They are comforting and you either like them or you don't. You can usually tell in about five minutes.
FYI, all the real sitcom nerds watch Golden Girls, anyways. Bea Arthur FTW.
I also feel sad that you think that's just what a sitcom is and that's all they can be. If you like geeky stuff and don't want every character to be an insulting stereotype and also want it to be funny and clever then I highly recommend Spaced.
Seen and noted, thank you sir!zelda2fanboy said:(I hope the OP sees this conversation, as it demonstrates my original point quite well. Accusations of being a poser know no bounds when it comes to gender.)
I don't really understand what you're trying to say, since my question had nothing to do with feminism. Is this a critique of the article, or the new meme? Could you explain where you're coming from with this (and I'll attempt to 'come to a reasoned conclusion')Cheesepower5 said:I was going to leave a comment on TheMarySue itself, but then I read some and figured I'd just have my word discredited as "mansplaining" and be torn apart by the she-wolves that seem to inhabit that particular website. So, I'll say it here instead.
Of course a lot of people get put off by the feminist ideal, or dount their love of the mediums they profess to follow with the language that they use. Look at these "corrected memes":
- Uses Nerds as a blanket insult
- Uses Men as a blanket insult
Gee, she's using two major groups I am a part of as a short hand for "misogynist virgin neckbeard"... She must totally be a savvy geek working for the benefit of everyone! I respect the goals of feminists, I really do, but until websites like these stop acting like childish hypocrites, refusing to look at the flaws in their own reasoning, even when directly equatable to those they are trying to shut down, I will NEVER be able to take a feminist seriously. Then again, maybe I'm asking for too much... It's obvious no one's gonna get into an argument on one side, then actually try to come to a reasoned conclusion. Maybe I should just keep trying not to argue... It's just human nature to refuse any perspective differing from your own.
Hey! Cool that stuff broham! Don't make the definition of nerd, "People who find the Big Bang Theory funny."El Danny said:Basically, there are people
Then there's the rest of us.
Bottom line, Geek and Nerdy is currently a fad, it'll pass.
I would have thought that, but when the person in question's only comedic reference point is Spaced, I thought that maybe such shows were virtually unknown outside the US. (insert nasally nerd elitist laugh as I adjust my glasses) That was kind of my point, though. People aren't crying foul of Frasier's "stereotypes" and "pandering" to the wine community / psychoanalysis / opera / effete brothers. It's all secondary to the relationships of the characters. I just think nerds are really really sensitive sometimes.Stasisesque said:I had to go back to find this after seeing you quoted on the last page.
You realise we get every single one of those sitcoms over here, right? We have whole channels dedicated to American sitcoms and they're just as, if not more, popular than our home grown ones.
Besides, Frasier is the best sitcom ever and everyone should watch and love it. It's also less about radio personalities and more about the pompous upper-middle/upper classes and their clashes with the real world. If anyone was going to find it offensive, it would be the Mancunians - Daphne's accent is so far from Manchester it's in the Indian Ocean.