Poll: Fallout New Vegas Factions
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I agree, Vulpes and Lanius would make very successful heirs to the Caesar's Legion...but what if the Courier is Octavian?Aetera said:
Independent because they're all arseholes. I trust myself to be less of an arsehole than all of them.
Oh and Mr House can go fuck himself if he thinks he can top my 8 intelligence and 10 luck credentials for running vegas.
I thought these were the good guys and my plan was to build up the huge robot army (pretty handy fellas) and then hand over control to the NCR on my first playthrough, unfortunately I found that wasn't an option. However on my NCR supporting playthrough I found out that they'd send me to commit 2 acts of genocide. So yeah, fuck all those guys.
Myself. The legion would probably burn everything and as for the NCR...remember Bitter Springs...
I agree, and even chose an independant vegas myself. but the only problem is when you're gone, its all going to fall to shit again. unless you assume you can find a successor who's as awesome as yourself.Daveman said:
This is also the problem i had withthe legion (apart from all of the evil crap)
once ceasar is gone, i think the legion will fall apart through in fighting just like the real rome.
so for me the only factions that provide any longterm stability are the NCR and House.
Although i think unless some drastic changes happened the NCR would grow so bloated and overstretched they could collapse at any point aswell.
So while house can be a bit... dictatory, i think he's the only one who can provide any real long term stability to vegas, although if the player character could somehow make themselves immortal the same as house, i think that'd be the best option.
Well again, there's no definite way that the player will run it. My guy would have the 100 science no doubt required to do that, but then I also kind of left house there to live without control. I reckon the protegé or a new nation set up would work out too better than the alternatives.Ilikemilkshake said:
I'd go with NCR.
I'm fairly certain some people of the Wasteland exaggerate how bad that government works out, and though I've never been to (pre-war) California, I find it abit offensive whenever people consider the NCR to be just a bunch of greedy people, I saw alot of nice NCR NPC's. And sure they tax their citizens heavily, but they're a government, how do you expect them to fund their military? their hospitals? their railroads?
And they're a democracy, the troubles of any tyrantical acts would just result in it's citizens voting their government officials out of office. I know a good amount of it's people are incompetent (like giving prisoners dynamite), but so are quite afew Fallout NPCs since good, calm, friendly A.I is hard to come by these days.
And you know how they're trying to do good for the Wasteland, the fact they're struggling to do so I think makes helping them all the more statisfying.
Also, the NCR is helping the people of the Wasteland in both short-term and long-term ways. Mr. House cares very little for anyone outside the Vegas Strip, and Caesar, even after you hear his rather long monologue, I failws see him giving out any real justification for enslaving people and reintroducing sexism. What? Caesar? is the idea a woman in Legion armor cramping your style? The actual Roman Empire was less sexist than you! if I remember correctly.
And the Independent Route? the amount of good you can do with that is abit limited, and If you speak with General Oliver while doing that, he points out that you can't really do things a soveriegn government could do if you take the Wasteland over yourself, like build roads, or provide aid to a large population, or even a small population, where do think the Followers end up if you take that route?
I'm fairly certain some people of the Wasteland exaggerate how bad that government works out, and though I've never been to (pre-war) California, I find it abit offensive whenever people consider the NCR to be just a bunch of greedy people, I saw alot of nice NCR NPC's. And sure they tax their citizens heavily, but they're a government, how do you expect them to fund their military? their hospitals? their railroads?
And they're a democracy, the troubles of any tyrantical acts would just result in it's citizens voting their government officials out of office. I know a good amount of it's people are incompetent (like giving prisoners dynamite), but so are quite afew Fallout NPCs since good, calm, friendly A.I is hard to come by these days.
And you know how they're trying to do good for the Wasteland, the fact they're struggling to do so I think makes helping them all the more statisfying.
Also, the NCR is helping the people of the Wasteland in both short-term and long-term ways. Mr. House cares very little for anyone outside the Vegas Strip, and Caesar, even after you hear his rather long monologue, I failws see him giving out any real justification for enslaving people and reintroducing sexism. What? Caesar? is the idea a woman in Legion armor cramping your style? The actual Roman Empire was less sexist than you! if I remember correctly.
And the Independent Route? the amount of good you can do with that is abit limited, and If you speak with General Oliver while doing that, he points out that you can't really do things a soveriegn government could do if you take the Wasteland over yourself, like build roads, or provide aid to a large population, or even a small population, where do think the Followers end up if you take that route?
house is a greedy merciless dick for the most part though, any side of him that human at some point is basically gone and he is the big brother of las vegas, which like was said the citizens were scared shitless of those robots, which are incapable of any independent thought or reason from situation to situation.RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Why let someone other than me gain power? Mr. House sounds like he might betray me any second, and the NCR isnt far from fucking something up either. And the Legion are far too picky about moral standards.
YES! you managed to link every one of those points to you Opinions and thus left me no way to us logic to argue with you. You're entitled to your Opinions after all. Whoo. Glad that's over.Ultratwinkie said:
Ah well, Have fun with your weak, mortal.......uhh......hang on. Who exactly ARE you supporting. You're Anti-Legion becuase they are cruel and what-not. You're anti-NCR becuase they're incompetent and corrupt. And if you're FOR the Independence option, you've basically just colored yourself as a Hypocrite, cause you previously said this:
Why would YOUR government to be any less corrupt than the NCR, Huhm?
You uhhh....realize that YOU'RE ancestors were once tribals too right? And so were mine. And everyone else's. You realize America (or any other country for that matter) didn't just pop out of the ground as a fully developed Democracy with intelligent, educated citizens right? Implying that Tribals can NEVER EVER become anything more than filth and "pigs" is Racist, Colonialist, and(most importantly) logically retarded, Asshole talk. Is that what you are? You should lay that out on the table right now.Ultratwinkie said:
I'm FROM the Third world you know? I suppose I can never help construct a factory, right? I can't ever be educated. If I put on a tux, I'll just be "a pig in a tuxedo". I should probably just go lie in the ditch I call a home, and DIE, right my powerful, educated American master? After all, my ancestors were just "tribals" whereas yours pooped out of the motherfucking ground as fully educated Democrats.....
Not cool, man. SO Not cool.
Tough one, I chose NCR cos every time I play I always stay on their side. They are helpful and pretty nice. I do like House aswell he is good, keeps the strip in order and he saved it from getting blown up in the first place. My current playtrhough I've actually already killed him lol, and I watch House M.D so much I keep calling him Mr House >_>